American Supertanks

T-28 Super Heavy Tank
Extremely thick armor, not enough engine, 25 ordered, two built, one still exists.

WI they'd designed it with a lot more power and a little less armor, so that it had a top speed in the mid to high teens. Assuming no major design problems, the first batch of five is delivered in May, 1945 (early, but otherwise they'll only be used for testing). What happens next?

If i can go slightly ASB or have an earlier start of development, say they're delivered in time to arrive in Europe in early February, 1946.




And for the next installment of Superheavy Tanks That Never Got Built, Get Built, i nominate the Obyekt 279.
 
How about this 80 ton monster with 65mm armour and a 17lb gun from 1943?
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IS-7 is 8 tons heavier And it had naval gun (from a destroyer, though, not cruiser :) )
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/IS-7.JPG/800px-IS-7.JPG
It even was built.
Mine looks cooler. I think it was built, too. There's pictures of it that look like they're in museum, anyway.

I say, it's that blighter from Metal Gear Solid 3! Now I know what it's called. 'Tanks' very much :D
You're welcome.

How about this 80 ton monster with 65mm armour and a 17lb gun from 1943?
Seriously? A bit i like about the T28 is the low profile. Makes it a more difficult target. But the timing of yours is more propitious. What's the name? Also, how fast is it?
 

Sachyriel

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What the...? WTF is that little girl doing near that huge tank!

She's smiling...

OH GOD! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! LITTLE SARAH IS COMING!

[OMGWTFBBDAST! <Oh My God! What The Fuck! Bitch Be Driving A Super Tank! is stolen from the older acronmyn: OMFWTFBBQ, which ended in 'quiet']
 
Seriously? A bit i like about the T28 is the low profile. Makes it a more difficult target. But the timing of yours is more propitious. What's the name? Also, how fast is it?

It was called TOG2. That was the initials The Old Gang as it was designed by the team who developed the first tanks in WW1 hence the old gang and 2 because there was an earlier model in 1940 which only had a 2 pounder quick firing gun. It's speed was 12mph and it was driven by electromechanical propulsion.

Tog1 with Matilda turret with the 2lb gun and a hull mounted howitzer

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TOG2

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It was called TOG2.
British, i assume. The TOG1 is seems very similar to the T28 in concept. Maybe one could get shipped to the USA for testing. Maybe if they get the TOG in 1942, could be some bright boy starts the Pacific Car and Foundry Co working on the T28 in 1943, two years early, and have working prototypes by 1944.
 
British, i assume. The TOG1 is seems very similar to the T28 in concept. Maybe one could get shipped to the USA for testing. Maybe if they get the TOG in 1942, could be some bright boy starts the Pacific Car and Foundry Co working on the T28 in 1943, two years early, and have working prototypes by 1944.

Now there's a thought, with the American industrial base they could have done that. TOG2s, renamed of course, were designed for WW1 type conditions and would have breezed through the bocage in Normandy. That 17lb gun would have made it a match for a Tiger.
 
Now there's a thought, with the American industrial base they could have done that. TOG2s, renamed of course, were designed for WW1 type conditions and would have breezed through the bocage in Normandy. That 17lb gun would have made it a match for a Tiger.

Can it traverse fast enough? The Tiger could outflank it.

Just short of 80 tons (79, 252kg), 225mm armor, the A-39 Tortoise. Ok, so it's an assault gun.

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Can it traverse fast enough? The Tiger could outflank it

It passed all of the trials so presumably it could traverse quickly, the Tigers however could not.

Just short of 80 tons (79, 252kg), 225mm armor, the A-39 Tortoise. Ok, so it's an assault gun.

Ahhh, the Tortoise!

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Assault gun or not and it did have a power-assisted limited traverse ball mounting for the gun and what a gun!

The 32lb 3.75 in (96mm) QF (20rpm) gun. Muzzel velocity 3,050 fps. Seen here on AA duty in Hyde park in 1939.

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The mounting is remarkably similar to the PAK 88 but inexplicably it was rarely used in anything other than the anti aircraft role. When it was, particularly by the New Zealanders in Italy it could shoot the crap out of Tigers at 1,000m.
 
The 32lb 3.75 in (96mm) QF (20rpm) gun. Muzzel velocity 3,050 fps. Seen here on AA duty in Hyde park in 1939.

Hyde_Park_Anti-aircraft_guns_H_993.jpg


The mounting is remarkably similar to the PAK 88 but inexplicably it was rarely used in anything other than the anti aircraft role. When it was, particularly by the New Zealanders in Italy it could shoot the crap out of Tigers at 1,000m.

If only the British had mounted it on a better platform... Something that can traverse.
 
If only the British had mounted it on a better platform... Something that can traverse.

I beg your pardon! The mounting for the 3.75 was virtually identical to the FLAK 88, there are examples of both in the Royal Armouries museum at Fort Nelson in Portsmouth.

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burmafrd

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I was a WW2 reenactor for quite a while and even did some events in England. that was back 89-92. WHile there I met several British WW2 vets and one day before an event we were talking about the 88. One of the vets mentioned that he was part of a heavy AA unit that defended london and he said that that gun was a very good weapon.
 
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