American Revolution: What if There was a Longer War?

A What If? With a POD during the signing of the Treaty of Paris. In this ATL, King George III of Great Britain personally comes to Paris to oversee the signing of the Treaty of Paris, thus ending the Revolutionary War and officially granting the United States of America independence from the UK. King George also requests that American General George Washington come down as well. However, the evil king has a trick up his sleeve-literally. When the two leaders are supposed to shake hands, King George pulls out a knife and stabs General Washington multiple times, killing him. The French soldiers acting as security officers draw their guns and shoot and kill the British monarch. After this, the world will never be the same again.

Massively unlikely.
 

Wolfpaw

Banned
To play the devil's advocate, he did go crazy towards the end.

However, was it the right kind of crazy? I don't recall hearing anything about servants being beaten to death or that kind of thing.
His was the sort of "Look at me running around naked! I'm a clock! Now, to penetrate the scullery maid in front of my entourage, because the clouds are going to be late for croquet! What the--lemme go! Lemme go! I'm KIIIIIIIIIING!"

That is, quite the reverse of a Patrick Bateman.

Nor was George III evil. He was a lot of things, but more pathetic than evil.
 
Okay, new changes. In order to accept the Declaration of Independence signed nearly 10 years ago, King George III sends his son, George IV, Prince of Wales, to Paris, to meet with American General George Washington, whose presence has been requested. However, when the two shake hands, General Washington drops dead, prompting the shocked French security officers to shoot and kill the Prince. Outraged by this, King George declares war on America again, determined to bring it back under British control. President Boudinot tries his best to remain free, but without General Washington's effective leadership, the Continental Army falls, and when New York, Boston and Philadelphia are destroyed, America surrenders. In 1785, Boudinot, John and Sam Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and many other important Patriots are executed for treason. However, in the 1840s, America wants revenge against Britain and longs to be independent again. Under a charismatic young leader(think Fidel Castro during the Cuban Revolution), America brutally and violently kills every British soldiers they can find, while Britain is still at war with France for the death of Prince George IV. Claiming almost all British and French land on the continent, America becomes a tyrannical, pro-slavery monarchy for nearly 50 years.
 

Derek Pullem

Kicked
Donor
Okay, new changes. In order to accept the Declaration of Independence signed nearly 10 years ago, King George III sends his son, George IV, Prince of Wales, to Paris, to meet with American General George Washington, whose presence has been requested. However, when the two shake hands, General Washington drops dead, prompting the shocked French security officers to shoot and kill the Prince. Outraged by this, King George declares war on America again, determined to bring it back under British control. President Boudinot tries his best to remain free, but without General Washington's effective leadership, the Continental Army falls, and when New York, Boston and Philadelphia are destroyed, America surrenders. In 1785, Boudinot, John and Sam Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and many other important Patriots are executed for treason. However, in the 1840s, America wants revenge against Britain and longs to be independent again. Under a charismatic young leader(think Fidel Castro during the Cuban Revolution), America brutally and violently kills every British soldiers they can find, while Britain is still at war with France for the death of Prince George IV. Claiming almost all British and French land on the continent, America becomes a tyrannical, pro-slavery monarchy for nearly 50 years.

Bonkers on so many levels

NO way would George III let his son anywhere close to anything political

NO way would French soldiers shoot the Prince even if he had drawn a sword and run George Washington through

Even if they did Britain would be declaring war on France not USA

Why does the USA suddenly become helpless without Washington (who was a mediocre general)

Why is Britain still at war with France 60 years later?

Why would a revolution produce a pro-Slavery Monarchy (Monarchy maybe - pro slavery - why?)
 
Bonkers on so many levels

NO way would George III let his son anywhere close to anything political

NO way would French soldiers shoot the Prince even if he had drawn a sword and run George Washington through

Even if they did Britain would be declaring war on France not USA

Why does the USA suddenly become helpless without Washington (who was a mediocre general)

Why is Britain still at war with France 60 years later?

Why would a revolution produce a pro-Slavery Monarchy (Monarchy maybe - pro slavery - why?)
Pro-slavery because the new "King" is from the south, maybe Virginia or so. That's part of what leads to his popularity, being from the same state as Washington. Britian and France have not been at war with each other nonstop, it's been going on and off. That's part of why they're so weak, and why America was able to just take over.
 
Pro-slavery because the new "King" is from the south, maybe Virginia or so. That's part of what leads to his popularity, being from the same state as Washington. Britian and France have not been at war with each other nonstop, it's been going on and off. That's part of why they're so weak, and why America was able to just take over.

The USA is so weak in this period that the two would have to be hit by strategic meteorites to be weak enough for forcible American conquest.


Also, @ Derek: I think you're underestimating Washington as a general. No he wasn't a great general - but I defy you to find a better one amongst his opponents or peers, including the people skills part (which rules out say, Arnold).
 

Anaxagoras

Banned
Okay, new changes.

Oh boy.

In order to accept the Declaration of Independence signed nearly 10 years ago,

If it was signed ten years ago, why would Britain need to "accept" it?"

King George III sends his son, George IV, Prince of Wales, to Paris,

Why on Earth would he send his son, and why on Earth would his son agree to go?

to meet with American General George Washington, whose presence has been requested.

Why on Earth would they request Washington's presence, and why on Earth would he agree to go?

However, when the two shake hands, General Washington drops dead

Why?

prompting the shocked French security officers to shoot and kill the Prince.

Why on Earth would they kill the Prince?

Outraged by this, King George declares war on America again, determined to bring it back under British control.

Why would they declare war on America? Shouldn't they just declare war on France?

President Boudinot tries his best to remain free, but without General Washington's effective leadership, the Continental Army falls,

Why should the British do any better this time than the last? Washington was far from the only general that could have lead the Continental Army, and the same logistical problems that doomed the British war effort the first time around would still apply.

and when New York, Boston and Philadelphia are destroyed, America surrenders.

Why on Earth would the British destroy the cities of a country they are trying to conquer? Seems a bit self-defeating, don't you think?

In 1785, Boudinot, John and Sam Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and many other important Patriots are executed for treason.

Why?

However, in the 1840s, America wants revenge against Britain and longs to be independent again.

What for? And what took them so long?

Under a charismatic young leader(think Fidel Castro during the Cuban Revolution), America brutally and violently kills every British soldiers they can find,

What do you mean by "violently kill"? How the hell else are they going to kill them? Peacefully?

while Britain is still at war with France for the death of Prince George IV.

Wait, what? A war that lasts sixty years? I don't think so.

Claiming almost all British and French land on the continent, America becomes a tyrannical, pro-slavery monarchy for nearly 50 years.

How on Earth did you come to this conclusion?
 
A What If? With a POD during the signing of the Treaty of Paris. In this ATL, King George III of Great Britain personally comes to Paris to oversee the signing of the Treaty of Paris, thus ending the Revolutionary War and officially granting the United States of America independence from the UK. King George also requests that American General George Washington come down as well. However, the evil king has a trick up his sleeve-literally. When the two leaders are supposed to shake hands, King George pulls out a knife and stabs General Washington multiple times, killing him. The French soldiers acting as security officers draw their guns and shoot and kill the British monarch. After this, the world will never be the same again.

What would be more creditable is a bomb goes off during the Signing. Washington lives but is disabled in some way.
No one know who set off the bomb.
The war continues and Ireland and Scotland rebel too.
 
This is basically the American Revolution equivalent of the now-stickied WWII thread in ASB.

I like it. GREENLIGHT THE MOVIE ADAPTATION. WE RELEASE IN 2014.
 

Derek Pullem

Kicked
Donor
Also, @ Derek: I think you're underestimating Washington as a general. No he wasn't a great general - but I defy you to find a better one amongst his opponents or peers, including the people skills part (which rules out say, Arnold).

Which was kind of my point - you didn't need a great General to defeat th British - they were quite capable of losing the war by themselves. Witness the futility of New Orleans in 1815. And that's after they should have been educated by the Napoleonic Wars - in 1783 they were still fighting battles from a generation previously.

All the Amercians had to do to win was endure occupation of the coastal cities.
 
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