American invasion

What would happen if China invaded America for the money America owes them? What countries would support which side and who would be most probable to win?
 
What would happen if China invaded America for the money America owes them? What countries would support which side and who would be most probable to win?

A lot of Chinese, and some American, bodies would form a neat layer at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Shortly after this, whether Beijing turned into glass would be decided by a coin toss.
 
How would this happen?

The Federal Reserve would just declare all T-Bills with the serial numbers that China holds as void. And any movement by their navy would be sunk as already stated.

EDIT: Expect riots as a lot of angry Chinese investors are furious at the Politburo for losing their billions of dollars in investments, and and an angry military brass for seeing their new navy that they've spent years building at the bottom of the ocean.
 
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How does the PLA plan on getting across the Pacific? By doing an army ant impersonation across the Bering Strait?
 
What would happen if China invaded America for the money America owes them?

The Chinese Navy is destroyed down to the last lifeboat before they get halfway to Guam. Sustained aerial bombing of all mainland Chinese production centers destroys the rest of their economy.

Truce wherein the US debt to China is eliminated and China must pay the US for the cost of the war. Taiwan is recognized. Depending on the citizens' response, a democratic government is installed.

Actually, no. Even before that, if China claims they want to come a callin' on the debt, we just stop artificially lowering the value of the Yuan. They experience hyperinflation and their economy collapses, rendering them incapable of waging any war.

I hope that you also realize their debt is next to nothing in the grand scene of things and that Japan has just as much of it as they do, for scale.
 
I don't get all the egotistical bravado ... China vs USA ...

China has a military force 1.5 times the size of the USA ...
China has a population 4 times the size of the USA ...
China has the second largest and possibly the most modern navy, in size only beaten by the USA ...
China's production capacity seems limitless the USA has been or still is in decline (lets call it a period of readjustment) ...

Now I'm not saying that China will win, could win or wouldn't be wiped out ... I can't say what the quality of either nations equipment or competence is but the way some of you are talking its almost like all the US has to do is turn round at the same time, wave your butts in China's general direction and fart at the same time and the whole Chinese navy will sink ... there would be huge loses on both sides and maybe the rest of the world would be a better place for it!!
 
China has a military force 1.5 times the size of the USA ...
China has a population 4 times the size of the USA ...
China has the second largest and possibly the most modern navy, in size only beaten by the USA ...
China's production capacity seems limitless the USA has been or still is in decline (lets call it a period of readjustment) …

Logistics. The Russians won the Winter War on paper only.

…there would be huge loses on both sides and maybe the rest of the world would be a better place for it!!

There goes your argument.
 
Chinese wouldn't make it within 500 miles of the US coast. Even if they did, where are they going to land? There are alot of US military bases on the west coast, any Chinese landing force would be obliterated. Even if they did manage to secure a beachhead, they will not be able to resupply or reinforce them. The Chinese invasion would be strangled in the cradle. WOULDN'T FUCKING HAPPEN!
 
I don't get all the egotistical bravado ... China vs USA ...

China has a military force 1.5 times the size of the USA ...
China has a population 4 times the size of the USA ...
China has the second largest and possibly the most modern navy, in size only beaten by the USA ...
China's production capacity seems limitless the USA has been or still is in decline (lets call it a period of readjustment) ...

Now I'm not saying that China will win, could win or wouldn't be wiped out ... I can't say what the quality of either nations equipment or competence is but the way some of you are talking its almost like all the US has to do is turn round at the same time, wave your butts in China's general direction and fart at the same time and the whole Chinese navy will sink ... there would be huge loses on both sides and maybe the rest of the world would be a better place for it!!

They may have a large number but numbers don't solely count, out of their 25 current destroyers 10 are a 1970's design, 4 are based off a 1980's design. 17 out of their 48 frigates are a 1970's design. they have 120 Coastal ships that wouldn't play a role in such a war situation.

Of their SSK's 18 out of their total of 50 are dated Romeo's that are most likely out of commission, the remaining hulls would in a cross pacific war be at a disadvantage and they only have 9 SSN's. Numbers do matter but I wouldn't like to take a 1970's design against a modern Burke at least twice it's size and vastly more it's combat capability.
 
Chinese wouldn't make it within 500 miles of the US coast. Even if they did, where are they going to land? There are alot of US military bases on the west coast, any Chinese landing force would be obliterated. Even if they did manage to secure a beachhead, they will not be able to resupply or reinforce them. The Chinese invasion would be strangled in the cradle. WOULDN'T FUCKING HAPPEN!


That's why they're going to attack on the EAST coast! NOBODY will see it coming! :D
 
That's why they're going to attack on the EAST coast! NOBODY will see it coming! :D

Mother of God... It's already too late!

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We're doomed! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
 

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The Chinese Navy is destroyed down to the last lifeboat before they get halfway to Guam. Sustained aerial bombing of all mainland Chinese production centers destroys the rest of their economy.

Truce wherein the US debt to China is eliminated and China must pay the US for the cost of the war. Taiwan is recognized. Depending on the citizens' response, a democratic government is installed.

Actually, no. Even before that, if China claims they want to come a callin' on the debt, we just stop artificially lowering the value of the Yuan. They experience hyperinflation and their economy collapses, rendering them incapable of waging any war.

I hope that you also realize their debt is next to nothing in the grand scene of things and that Japan has just as much of it as they do, for scale.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. No scenario with the collapse of the Chinese Economy can even remotely be compared with an American victory.
 
....at which point the US economy would crumble and some people would say that maybe a chinese invasion would be for the best

Hardly. If China is going to play economic warfare, let alone start an attempt at invasion, nobody is going to cheer them on. There's still going to be European, and Asian investors to pick up the slack, let alone the Fed itself. Not to mention that China would suffer far catastrophic damage as a result. When China's 10% annual growth hits a brick wall, all of the social agitation is going to explode like a volcano.

China doesn't nearly have as much leverage as the OP suggests. Starting a trade war, let alone a shooting one is the easiest way for them to lose all of it. The scenario demands that the CCP is run by suicidal maniacs who want to watch the world burn.
 
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