American India

how will it work, Germany never occupied any part of India. so how will America colonize India as an ally to Germany. It might work as an ally to Britain but British would never give up their colonies to any allies and India is really like a golden goose. second point is America will not be able to maintain colonies because they themselves do not have feudal mentality. The system of colonies works for european countries as they have been feudal kingdoms.
 
how will it work, Germany never occupied any part of India. so how will America colonize India as an ally to Germany. It might work as an ally to Britain but British would never give up their colonies to any allies and India is really like a golden goose. second point is America will not be able to maintain colonies because they themselves do not have feudal mentality. The system of colonies works for european countries as they have been feudal kingdoms.

Thats the biggest load of crap i've ever heard, it was the end of the feudal system that allowed for sufficient economic and political dynamism to colonise . if you notice it is in the second half of the 19th century that colonial expansion reaches its peak and at that time feudalism had been dead everywhere but russia for 200 years. even before then feudalism had been dead in britain since the early 1500s and around that time in the united netherlands. France had its greatest colonial expansion as a republic.

And America has always had a strongly stratified class system, mobility may have been a matter of money but there are no snobs like the yanks. also you forget to take into account the conquest and colonisation of northern mexico, cuba, the phillipines, guam and the pacific islands
 
how will it work, Germany never occupied any part of India. so how will America colonize India as an ally to Germany. It might work as an ally to Britain but British would never give up their colonies to any allies and India is really like a golden goose. second point is America will not be able to maintain colonies because they themselves do not have feudal mentality. The system of colonies works for european countries as they have been feudal kingdoms.

He means that the U.S. will conquer India as an ally of the Germans and take it from the British. Also America did maintain colonies : the Phllipines and the Pacific islands
 
And America has always had a strongly stratified class system, mobility may have been a matter of money but there are no snobs like the yanks. also you forget to take into account the conquest and colonisation of northern mexico, cuba, the phillipines, guam and the pacific islands

How amusing.
 
Maybe not quite what your looking for but Pakistan and India or coem to think of it China and India) kick off and take the atomic option. Large scale US relief operation becomes more permanent as the situation gets worse.
Prior to something like that you have to get over the peculiar american doublethink on Empire, its not Empire if they say its not apparently , an idea hard to reconcile if you colonise a huge chunk of India, its hard to right that off as manifest destiny but not if its a huge chunk of North America, no matter who's living there at the time.
Incidentally I'm not anti-US I just find some of the main stream US reading of history and the idea of it as somehow outside the general flow of history fairly annoying at times .
 
Why would the U.S want to take colonies so far away anyhow? Yes, the Pacific colonies were taken after the defeat of Spain. But why not take over Canada. If the British were to lose to a German and American alliance, Canada is probably first on the list of choices. An entire North America as the U.S.
More of Mexico, annex Cuba? There would have been plenty of targets much closer to home. Not too mention that whole deal with Panama.

From what I hear that Brazil is loaded with natural resources and was/is less populated then India? Also Venezula has lots of oil too.
 
A point of clarification, im not saying that i think the US would take a chunk of India if it could have, im just saying that other blokes reasons for why they did not are bogus. Really the americans are an empire in the style of russia not britain
 
The British had already been in India (via the East India Company) for nearly two centuries by 1789. Germany was not yet a country and was mostly concerned with securing its own interests on the Continent until the late nineteenth century, when having colonies became an important status symbol to the newly formed German nation. The Indian Rebellion (Sepoy Mutiny) of 1857 might be a better starting point if America wanted to get involved, but at that point America was too busy with the growing issue of slavery, using the Army to defend Western outposts and the sectional conflicts that would lead to the Civil War. At any rate, the United States only had a small Navy made up mostly of frigates during most of the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries.
 
I was referring to the other colonies.

There aren't that many and Hawaii was practically acquired in 1893.

Anyhow, my own idea on the WI would be no American Revolution (or technically could it be the Second British Civil War or something?). American colonial businessmen would eventually be challenging the East India Company and may even set up rival factors in India and the Far East. Unable to equal the wealth of the East India Company the New England merchants limit themselves just to acquiring something similar to treaty port cities. Later on with Dominion status is granted to British North America these ports, and others in the Far East, remain being governed from Georgetown (OTL Washington City).
 
How about having Jefferson refrain from enacting the Embargo Act and the United States refraining from starting the war of 1812. America spends the entire period of the Napoleonic wars gradually settling its western frontiers and expanding its mercantile presence in the outside world. While these enterprises would always be under the shadow of Britain, it is conceivable that they could give america an interest and a reason to become involved in imperialism. American merchant companies would most likely acquire a treaty port or two in Kerala as Mysore forutnes decline and could possibley expand into western India as the Maratha confederacy collapsed.
 
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