American Haiti

Could would end up in a similar state to Puerto Rico, becoming a non-self governing territory
More likely it ends up becoming a 'Independent' state with alot of American Influence, likely adopting many American Motifs
I'm not entirely sure of Haitian History or politics, but I don't know if America would be interested in having more islands. They already have a ton with different languages and cultures.
But they might keep them and just not buy the Virgin Islands from Denmark later
 
On a related note, there were attempts to annex the port of Mole-Sant-Nicholas and the island of Gonave into the Union OTL, which wouldn’t have been enough for a state but definitely enough for a small territory.
 

Paradoxer

Banned
WI Haiti became a US territory after the Haitian revolution?
Depends, best bet is right when Revolution takes place and French white residents make appeals to Americans in south to encourage US to step in. More powerful and expansionist US from Revolution upwards helps.

No way in hell US in this era would trust a island full of illiterate slaves in revolt become citizens. The white French citizens and maybe some mixed people too but that’s it. The rest likely get re enslaved and sold and scattered across US slave states for good measure basically depopulating island for time. Pulling down revolt and re enslavement of rebels will be bloodbath and likely off put not just Europeans in its brutality but northerners too. Basically involvement depends on southern political bloc being able to at least get north support “expeditions” and military involvement mostly involving south states themselves. Virginia is still one of most influential states during time. The north does not out class south especially wealth wise until mass industrialization.

If they win, big emphasis on if, the one plus that comes out of this is slavery and racism in south and Americas are 10 times less bad in long run.

The massacre, rape, and genocide of white and even mixed populations in Haitian Revolution did not leave good memory or statement for “first black republic”. It actually only reinforced worse fears, racism, and biases. The US south reaction one example of this. The “fear of second Haiti” a common propaganda point used by people who support institutions of slavery or not trust blacks with equality. Haiti was biggest slave revolt since Spartacus and one of only successful ones in human history. Most slave revolts usually end in slaughter of slaves and execution of ring leaders. Haiti is exception but Haiti got isolated from world and left to rot after its revolution and failed reconquest by French.

Not many “good” routes here but they did literally named place after hell/death/underworld.
 
Depends, best bet is right when Revolution takes place and French white residents make appeals to Americans in south to encourage US to step in. More powerful and expansionist US from Revolution upwards helps.

No way in hell US in this era would trust a island full of illiterate slaves in revolt become citizens. The white French citizens and maybe some mixed people too but that’s it. The rest likely get re enslaved and sold and scattered across US slave states for good measure basically depopulating island for time. Pulling down revolt and re enslavement of rebels will be bloodbath and likely off put not just Europeans in its brutality but northerners too. Basically involvement depends on southern political bloc being able to at least get north support “expeditions” and military involvement mostly involving south states themselves. Virginia is still one of most influential states during time. The north does not out class south especially wealth wise until mass industrialization.

If they win, big emphasis on if, the one plus that comes out of this is slavery and racism in south and Americas are 10 times less bad in long run.

The massacre, rape, and genocide of white and even mixed populations in Haitian Revolution did not leave good memory or statement for “first black republic”. It actually only reinforced worse fears, racism, and biases. The US south reaction one example of this. The “fear of second Haiti” a common propaganda point used by people who support institutions of slavery or not trust blacks with equality. Haiti was biggest slave revolt since Spartacus and one of only successful ones in human history. Most slave revolts usually end in slaughter of slaves and execution of ring leaders. Haiti is exception but Haiti got isolated from world and left to rot after its revolution and failed reconquest by French.

Not many “good” routes here but they did literally named place after hell/death/underworld.
Haiti is a native Taino placename, it doesn't come from Hades.
 
How? Do we conquer it or something? And try to reinstate slavery? Good luck convincing the North of that.
They don't have to reinstate slavery, it could be a "Liberia, but a US territory" where slavery is "illegal" (in theory, in practice they'd likely look the other way) and free blacks are forced to settle.
 

Paradoxer

Banned
They don't have to reinstate slavery, it could be a "Liberia, but a US territory" where slavery is "illegal" (in theory, in practice they'd likely look the other way) and free blacks are forced to settle.
Haiti no pun intended was black sheep after Revolution due to actions during it. They might use it as Liberia to send black people and at most have a commonwealth Puerto Rico status but never become state.

Both north and south would not want island for multiple reasons especially as state. After decades of isolation and resource depletion the island after independence lost much of its value in crash crop and raw resources.
 
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