American Foreign Policy with no Spanish-American War

Would that also result in Korea and Manchuria falling into Russian hands while the Philippines may end up becoming a German colony, should Spain hold it for a while until they sell it to the Germans?

Not necessarily. Spain may be less inclined to sell in this timeline, and, if anything is sold, it will be Micronesia rather than something as large, populous, and rich in resources as the Philippines. As far as Manchuria and Korea, the Russians will want to be careful not to push Washington more firmly into London's orbit.
 
Not necessarily. Spain may be less inclined to sell in this timeline, and, if anything is sold, it will be Micronesia rather than something as large, populous, and rich in resources as the Philippines. As far as Manchuria and Korea, the Russians will want to be careful not to push Washington more firmly into London's orbit.

Having the Philippines as permanently part of Spain is something that won't end well with the Katipunan. So would it be like this in the end?
 
Having the Philippines as permanently part of Spain is something that won't end well with the Katipunan. So would it be like this in the end?

That's hard to know, but the lack of a war with the U.S. will delay the return of Aguinaldo to the Philippines.
 
Potentially. Regardless, the fate of the Philippines will be rather interesting under these circumstances.

What, with Ricarde raising another insurrection, but this time they're aided by either Japan or Germany. There could also be the possibility of the Philippines becoming Britain's additional colony.
 
What, with Ricarde raising another insurrection, but this time they're aided by either Japan or Germany. There could also be the possibility of the Philippines becoming Britain's additional colony.

Frankly, I think it's also possible that the islands remain a colony for some time here too, depending on the impact all of this has on Spain.
 
Without a philippine-american war that follows right after the spanish-american war, philippines would still retain a large population, so more potential labor-force for the invading/colonizing country.

Although it is safe to say that giving Philippines independence to prevent any world-power from gaining too much power in Asia, but i don't see that happening story-wise.
 
Without a philippine-american war that follows right after the spanish-american war, philippines would still retain a large population, so more potential labor-force for the invading/colonizing country.

Although it is safe to say that giving Philippines independence to prevent any world-power from gaining too much power in Asia, but i don't see that happening story-wise.

So how is the Philippines supposed to function properly without American interference? Heck, Go way back to the Seven Years' War and have the British occupy Manila long enough to force Spain to cede it. So without America occupying the Philippines, which colonial power would realistically control them?
 
There's also a possibility that Germany might seize the Philippines along with Cuba and many other left over Spanish colonies. Without American involvement, Germany might very well control those islands for a bit until Japan wins them through the Treaty of Versailles. Now, assuming that the program for purchasing the German colonies back from other nations is implemented by the time Hitler and the Nazis come to power, then there would be a serious consequences.

Whomever was president would oppose Germany taking Cuba. That would violate the Monroe Doctrine.
 
Whomever was president would oppose Germany taking Cuba. That would violate the Monroe Doctrine.

So basically without the Spanish-American War, the Monroe Doctrine is practically a dead paper. Heck, the Netherlands might be a possible candidate to get the Philippines from Spain if they could think of uniting its Dutch East Indies.
 
So basically without the Spanish-American War, the Monroe Doctrine is practically a dead paper. Heck, the Netherlands might be a possible candidate to get the Philippines from Spain if they could think of uniting its Dutch East Indies.

The Monroe Doctrine was used before the Spanish American to back up Venezuela against Britain in 1895 and to push the French out of Mexico in 1866.
 

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The spanish American war unified the country from the civil war culturally to some extent. Foreign policy might be harder to coordinate if the society was still as divided as it was. imagine wilson or truman's behavior in a more divided America? The divisions will probably still mend but it will take longer still and be more divergent even than our timeline until now and in the future.

I forgot that.
 
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Well, I think that we'd see butterflies almost right away. The U.S. may still try to get an open-door in China, and may be more successful in this timeline given that it's not mucking about in the Caribbean and has not knocked over the Spanish Philippines.
 

Warsie

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Without a philippine-american war that follows right after the spanish-american war, philippines would still retain a large population, so more potential labor-force for the invading/colonizing country.

Although it is safe to say that giving Philippines independence to prevent any world-power from gaining too much power in Asia, but i don't see that happening story-wise.

Philippine American War was savage but I do not think the deaths and casualties were THAT massive from the US actions

I also remember in a past thread on an independent Phillipines having people say that it might not last long without someone else jacking them, as to compare to Belgium they mentioned Belgium was White Europeans explaining how they were kept neutral, while Filipinoes had no such protections

So how is the Philippines supposed to function properly without American interference? Heck, Go way back to the Seven Years' War and have the British occupy Manila long enough to force Spain to cede it. So without America occupying the Philippines, which colonial power would realistically control them?

The Germans might try to Jack the Phillipines given OTL there was some disputes between the German and US navies after the US forces took Manila in the Spanish american war...
 
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