America Without It's Common Sense

Faraday Cage

Inspired by the other threads on the subject.

POD: Common Sense is never published (Thomas Paine is hit by a carriage shortly before he would of seen it done).

Thomas Jefferson ends up anonymously writing the pamphlet that would unite the colonies into organized revolution, but they contain less clear criticisms of monarchy and aristocracy and are more specific to Britain and kinder to the influence of English law.

Besides a similar but not quite the same American Revolution, this results in General Washington being granted a hazy executive status during the chaotic Confederation days. When the Articles of Federation are finally written they include both Congress, Senate, and Imperator: creating precedent for non-hereditary elected emperors and lesser powers, such as consuls; as well as the precedents for amendments concerning impeachment and abdication.

This system would involve the Senate electing, appointing, and vetting appointments for many positions. Some would be limited term appointments, others would be lifelong (less abdication or impeachment) stations of merit. In return much of the bureaucratic authority not vested in the executives so selected by the Senate would instead fall to the Congress (the lower house of the Federal Assembly) rather than the indirectly powerful Senate.

The United States of America, better known as the Federal Empire, is not particularly more expansionist or successfully so than OTL (just different in what it gains, not more successful particularly).

And the precedent of elected nobility certainly affects the French Revolution and thus European history onward after.
 
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Inspired by the other threads on the subject.

POD: Common Sense is never published (Thomas Paine is hit by a carriage shortly before he would of seen it done).

Thomas Jefferson ends up anonymously writing the pamphlet that would unite the colonies into organized revolution, but they contain less clear criticisms of monarchy and aristocracy and are more specific to Britain and kinder to the influence of English law.

Besides a similar but not quite the same American Revolution, this results in General Washington being granted a hazy executive status during the chaotic Confederation days. When the Articles of Federation are finally written they include both Congress, Senate, and Imperator: creating precedent for non-hereditary elected emperors and lesser powers, such as consuls; as well as the precedents for amendments concerning impeachment and abdication.

This system would involve the Senate electing, appointing, and vetting appointments for many positions. Some would be limited term appointments, others would be lifelong (less abdication or impeachment) stations of merit. In return much of the bureaucratic authority not vested in the executives so selected by the Senate would instead fall to the Congress (the lower house of the Federal Assembly) rather than the indirectly powerful Senate.

The United States of America, better known as the Federal Empire, is not particularly more expansionist or successfully so than OTL (just different in what it gains, not more successful particularly).

And the precedent of elected nobility certainly affects the French Revolution and thus European history onward after.
Do you really think a single pamphlet made THAT much difference?
 

Faraday Cage

The precedent could also mean the young Federal Empire sides with I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Napoleon France in the years after the moderate and peace-loving Imperator Washington passes away.

Could the US and France beat the British Empire in the Not-Napoleonic Wars?
 
The precedent could also mean the young Federal Empire sides with I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Napoleon France in the years after the moderate and peace-loving Imperator Washington passes away.

Could the US and France beat the British Empire in the Not-Napoleonic Wars?

Faraday Cage

Possible but highly unlikely. Even presuming the modified US isn't weakened and there could be a lot of people unhappy at the change, its simply too weak and isolated to have that much impact. Britain can always disrupt its trade and commerce by blockage and raids, or aid the Indians tribes resisting US expansion. That makes it a costly and frustrating process for the US and sooner or later enough unrest of it as a result that peace is established. [Or worse France makes a Peace of Ameins and the US suddenly finds itself left hanging in the wind].

Steve
 
As far as the topic at hand, the effects would probably be minor due to the massive amount of bat sh*te crazy Protestant preachers(tm) advocating independence. Some other loon would have embedded that propaganda system into our fair colonies.

In addition, has no one else noticed the absolute hilarity of envisioning Thomas Payne, waddling across a cobbled street as usual, when out of nowhere he gets trampled to death by a random carriage/magic delorian?

Actually, on second thought, the funniest part to me is the utter nonchalance with which Reverend Thomas was done away with...:D
 
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