America enters the War in 1915?

Now while I understand that the reality is that Congress wouldn't have declared war over the Lusitania, but just to go with the scenario, how would American entry into the war effect the war as a whole?
 
So the war is going the same? And the American political scene is basically the same?
Basically. Once again the whole idea isn't really based around the plausibility, but given how the war was going in OTL by May 7th, 1915, how would the entry of America into the allies affect the war? A quicker victory for the Allies? A different outcome to the war?
 

Hoist40

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The US would not be able to supply as many equipped troops as quickly as it did in 1917. In 1915 the British and French were still ramping up their war production and had difficulty supplying their own forces. While at the same time the US had not ramped up production for the British and French. So while the US could raise large numbers of troops the supply situation would be worse.

In 1917 the British and French had their war production going enough to supply the US with equipment and the US industry had experience supplying the allies so they could ramp up production for the US military. Even so the US really was aiming for 1919 when US war production would be enough for its army
 

mowque

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Can do nothing but help. The American navy can pitch in, and provide destroyers, freighters and such things (in addition to our battleships and what not). American economy can provide steel, iron, grain, bread, shells...just about anything.

The key though, is that it also helps in Allied loan raising, which is key!
 
Any chance that American intervention could save the Russian Empire from falling?

Possibly, if it leads to the war ending in 1916.

If things drag on into 1917, then it comes too late. However, it could still make a big difference if it leads to Russia getting a right-wing dictator instead of a Bolshevik one.
 
If following the Lusitana sinking, Germany declared unRestricted submarine warfare and sent a Zimmerman telegram, I could see it happening. Wilson wins reelection with a don't swap horses campaign. The war ends in early 1917. There is no Russian Revolution.At Versailles the Russians push for an even more vindictive treaty.
 
If following the Lusitana sinking, Germany declared unRestricted submarine warfare and sent a Zimmerman telegram, I could see it happening. Wilson wins reelection with a don't swap horses campaign. The war ends in early 1917. There is no Russian Revolution.At Versailles the Russians push for an even more vindictive treaty.
I gotta say I think the Russians would push for the annexation of all of former Poland to the Congress and the annexation of East Prussia ot the creation of an East Prussian sattelite under their control.
 
I gotta say I think the Russians would push for the annexation of all of former Poland to the Congress and the annexation of East Prussia ot the creation of an East Prussian sattelite under their control.

t This Is going to create a big argument between Wilson and the Russians. I wonder if Wilson would ask his ally to give up territory to an independent Poland.
 
Now while I understand that the reality is that Congress wouldn't have declared war over the Lusitania, but just to go with the scenario, how would American entry into the war effect the war as a whole?

What with? As I understand it the American army was tiny suited only for chasing bandits in Mexico and the Philippines. The US Navy was better off but hardley suited to face the High Seas fleet even with the Grand Fleet doing the bulk of the work. Judging by OTL the US Army wouldn't see large scale action until autumn 1916 at the soonest and more likely Spring 1917, which means their first campaign could well be Paschendale.
 
What with? As I understand it the American army was tiny suited only for chasing bandits in Mexico and the Philippines. The US Navy was better off but hardley suited to face the High Seas fleet even with the Grand Fleet doing the bulk of the work. Judging by OTL the US Army wouldn't see large scale action until autumn 1916 at the soonest and more likely Spring 1917, which means their first campaign could well be Paschendale.

I know the military was small, but that can change once America switches to a war time economy. But I think if the Americans arrived in 1916, it could still have some major consequences on the war front.
 
Didn't Jello_Bafia do this in Reds!, and iirc it played a large role in the set-up for the later communist revolution in the US?
 
I know the military was small, but that can change once America switches to a war time economy. But I think if the Americans arrived in 1916, it could still have some major consequences on the war front.

It depends on how you want to stagger the mobilization. OTL raised an enormous amount of troops before we had the armaments industry needed to equip them. Consequently, American forces were largely supplied with armaments via Britain and Frances fully mobilized wartime economies.
 
t This Is going to create a big argument between Wilson and the Russians. I wonder if Wilson would ask his ally to give up territory to an independent Poland.


In this situation would it really matter what Wilson wanted - or even Lloyd George?

With Russia still in the war, the Franco-Russian Aliance can pretty much dictate terms (assuming a victory as decisive as OTL's) and don't need to listen to the Anglo-Saxon powers unless it suits them to.
 
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