Ameri-Screw?

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Something I intend to show in Open Sea, though, is that being smaller does not necessarily mean the US is a worse place... especially if you're a person of colour.

Oh, the US becomes a place that welcomes blacks, opposes imperialism, and kicks the crap out of the British and Rebs 60 years down the line to find its place in the sun.
 
I would argue that those don't really fulfil the requirement; the combined holdings of the CSA and USA are often much larger than OTL USA.

I assume that was what meant with "America" was the USA, so to combine the territories of the USA and CSA would not count, just like combinung the teritories of the USA and Canada does not count in OTL.
 
Constitutional convention F-up. either they try the articles of confederation for longer which is just going to fail to effective at governing and unable to expand, or the colonies all go their seperate way and wars for expansion are likely, or some colonies would have their worst tendencies reigned in and the slavocracy gets worse
 

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Oh, the US becomes a place that welcomes blacks, opposes imperialism, and kicks the crap out of the British and Rebs 60 years down the line to find its place in the sun.
I'm not entirely sure why it would do the latter. Or the middle one, the US is an empire (just one which happens to be territorially contiguous).
 

Saphroneth

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Revenge? Look at Alsace Lorraine, or Danzig.
I suppose it's entirely possible that that would take place, but equally one can look at - just as examples - eastern Poland, or most of old Austria Hungary, or Britain with America (no serious attempt to reclaim) or Britain with France after France helped hive off America (no serious attempt to punish) or Russia with France and Britain after the Crimean War, or Austrian attitudes to Prussia post-1864, or Danish attitudes to Prussia, or Dutch attitudes to Belgium, or plenty of other cases where there was no serious revanchism.

In fact, as a rule, successful wars of independence then don't seem to provoke subsequent reannexation wars, and successful interventions don't tend to provoke subsequent punishment wars - unless, of course, there's other prevailing geopolitical drivers towards it.

And in the case of a Union which has lost the Confederacy, it will absolutely not want to fight Britain and the Confederacy at the same time again. That war would be the platonic ideal of a multifront war - attacks being possible on the South, the North, the East and the West.
Instead, it would most likely want British help against the Confederacy, building on a common heritage, while also not wanting to reannex the South as that would result in some rather nasty guerillas, and focus on getting rich.
 
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