Ambition Denied - A Capetian Timeline

A Succession denied
Ambition Denied
132px-Blason_Royaume_de_France_(1289-1316).svg.png


A Succession denied

On 1328, the King of France, Charles IV would recover from his sickness, his wife would give birth to a daughter named Blanche in April 1 of 1324, his wife, Jeanne would give birth to a son finally who he would name his own son Charles after himself, Jeanne would announce another pregnancy in the end of the year and she would pray to Saint Francis of the Assisi before the pregnancy and when Jeanne gave birth she would name the son as Francis on August 2, 1329 which would be seen as a miraculous birth for them as it took time for them to have a new son, Francis who would later succeed as king of France which would be followed by a son named Robert on October 1, 1331.

The birth of Francis and Robert would put an end to the ambitions of Philip of Valois, who was waiting for the death of Charles IV of France.

The children of Charles IV and Marie of Evreux;

*Jeanne b. 1326

*Marie b. 1527

*Blanche b. 1328

*Francis b. 1329

*Robert b. 1331

The birth of Francis would shock Philip of Valois as that would mean that he would no longer be the King of France in the future nor his future descendants unless the sons of Charles IV die with no male issue.

Philip of Valois is reportedly devastated of the birth of a son for Charles IV of France and Navarre would remain in union with France in foreseeable future.

Philip of Valois would lose his chance for the throne due to the recovery and the siring of sons of Charles VI but they said that this is for the good of the country that King Charles has his own sons.

note:
This tl was hidden in my cloud drive for long..so I am happy to show this to all of you..
 
Last edited:
The sons of Casimir III
132px-Blason_Royaume_de_France_(1289-1316).svg.png

The sons of Casimir III

Jutta of Bohemia's betrothal to Prince Casimir of Poland was broken off and Prince Casimir marries Aldona of Lithuania in 1325, which would conclude an alliance with Lithuania, Aldona is the daughter of Gediminas and Jewna and Jutta/Bona would end up marrying Bogislaw V of Pomerania on 1333.

During the marriage Lithuania and Poland would remain in alliance which would collapse in 1330 and despite that they would have a non-aggression pact during the marriage, during the time Casimir and Aldona are married, Casimir would sire a son named Boleslaw in 1328, another thing.

On 1333, Casimir III would be succeeding as King of Poland already having one son named Boleslaw which would mean that by his own succession, his own succession would be stable on his own.

During this time there are no skirmishes between Lithuania and Poland when the two were married, Aldona of Lithuania would die on 1339, leaving an 11-year-old son who would be the heir to the Kingdom of Poland, Casimir III would remarry to Blanche of France, daughter of Philip the tall of France, who seemed to be the last of the Priority in marriage for the French, just after the death of Aldona, Casimir III would betroth and later marry his daughter Kunigunde to his nephew Wladyslaw III of Opole and marry Elizabeth to Boleslaw III of Plock, leaving their other sisters for further betrothal plans and marriages, both the Dukes of Zagan would Opole would swear complete allegiance and fealty with the King of Poland, Casimir III which would weaken the influence of Bohemia in Silesia and for that reason Poland would strengthen its influence over Silesia and Mazovia which would lead to the failure of the later project of Emperor Charles IV to majorly fail in his project in Silesia and Mazovia and Poland in general.

On the same time on 1328, Agnes of Bohemia would give birth to a son named Boleslaw.

The children of Aldona of Lithuania and Casimir III

*Elizabeth b. 1326

*Boleslaw b. 1328

*Kunigunde b. 1334

*Casimir b. 1336

Children of Blanche of France and Casimir III

*Anna b. 1341

*Jadwiga b. 1344

*Konrad b. 1350
 
Last edited:
I always enjoy a good Capetian TL.

Bit of nitpicking anyways, sorry : Charles IV could not name any child, especially the eldest, Francis. Part of the Franciscan order is dangerously close to heresy and Charles was closer to the Dominicans. Going out of the usual names list for honoring a saint for which he had no particular devotion seems out of character for me.
 
I always enjoy a good Capetian TL.

Bit of nitpicking anyways, sorry : Charles IV could not name any child, especially the eldest, Francis. Part of the Franciscan order is dangerously close to heresy and Charles was closer to the Dominicans. Going out of the usual names list for honoring a saint for which he had no particular devotion seems out of character for me.
The queen prayed to saint francis to have the child...so his name is francis..his mom named him.
 
You mean the fellow with the funny hat who just so happen to live under French ‘protection’ in Avignon?

Yes, the same, who was contested by a Franciscan promoted antipope by the Emperor. French influence in the curia did not mean the King could do anything whithout consequences, especially in spiritual matters.
 
A betrothal between England and France
132px-Blason_Royaume_de_France_(1289-1316).svg.png

A betrothal between England and France

On 1335, the ruler of England, Edward III and Charles IV would arrange a betrothal between Francis of France and Joanna of England, the sister of Edward III, terminating a betrothal between the future king of Scotland and the Joanna of England, the youngest sister of Edward III due to the marriage between John of England and Joanna of Penthievre in 1334 restoring Plantagenet rule in Brittany after the death of her father and uncle, the marriage of Isabella of England will bring in the claims to Anjou and Normandy as well as the rule of the Duchy of Aquitaine and with her ending the Plantagenet rule in Gascony and the English retaking some control in Brittany, however that will mean that Brittany would have a condominium status between France and England and the English would retain Ponthieu which is a French fief as well according to the marriage treaty in that year.

Originally, it was Princess Isabella of England, the eldest daughter of Edward III who would be married to Prince Francis, however Charles IV would want a princess ready to produce children at the majority of Francis of France and did not want a marriage between the two daughters of Edward III; Princess Joanna and Isabella as they are too young and he wants the marriage consummated sooner, Princess Joanna of England would be sent to France in Paris and bestowed the Duchess of Aquitaine or rather Guyenne and Gascony to meet her future husband and have Joanna know more in being the future queen of France, she would be the first close blood relation of the English King to marry the heir of France since Blanche of Castile, the eight year difference would not be an issue since it is Charles IV that promoted the marriage in the first place and would want Prince Francis to have kids at his teens and he knows how fragile are women at young age who easily have a miscarriage if pregnancy complications happen when they sire children at that age which could make them barren, the two would be later promised to marry when the groom can consummate the marriage when the groom is 13 and the bride is 21, she would stay in Paris in 1336 to meet her future husband and went to Guyenne and Gascony to rule it, however that would not mean that the French and the English would not have future problems as the English still have Ponthieu and the land of Brittany is ruled by a plantagenet scion which would spark future wars but Aquitaine and Gascony would be in Royal French rule.

Joanna of Evreux would grow and grow more Germanophile and Anglophile due to her favoring the Franciscans over the Pope in Avignon at this point due to the birth of a son which her husband Charles IV and her would quarrel upon and in the death of Charles IV on 1340 and the ascension of Francis I and her brief regency which she passed to Joanna of England after Francis I’s marriage with Joanna of England on the end of the year which is when Joanna of England would go to Paris from Aquitaine is where Aquitaine would go to the royal domain of France which ended the French protection of the pope in Avignon on Francis I’s reign.


Children of Edward III and Philippa of Hainault

Edward of Cornwall June 15, 1330

Isabella of England b. June 16, 1332

Joanna of England b. December 19, 1333

William February 10, 1337

Lionel b. November 15, 1338

John b. November 20, 1340

Edmund b. June 5, 1341

Mary b. October 10, 1344

Margaret b. July 28, 1346

Thomas b. January 4, 1355

Children of John of Eitham and Joanna of Penthievre(Jeanne I of Brittany)

*John b. 1338

*Guy b. 1340

*Henry b. 1342

*Marie b. 1345

*Marguerite b. 1346
 
Last edited:
View attachment 364241
A betrothal between England and France

On 1335, the ruler of England, Edward III and Charles IV would arrange a betrothal between Francis of France and Joanna of England, the sister of Edward III, terminating a betrothal between the future king of Scotland and the Joanna of England, the youngest sister of Edward III due to the marriage between John of England and Joanna of Penthievre in 1334 restoring Plantagenet rule in Brittany after the death of her father and uncle, the marriage of Isabella of England will bring in the claims to Anjou and Normandy as well as the rule of the Duchy of Aquitaine and with her ending the Plantagenet rule in Gascony and the English retaking some control in Brittany, however that will mean that Brittany would have a condominium status between France and England and the English would retain Ponthieu which is a French fief as well according to the marriage treaty in that year.

Originally, it was Princess Isabella of England, the eldest daughter of Edward III who would be married to Prince Francis, however Charles IV would want a princess ready to produce children at the majority of Francis of France and did not want a marriage between the two daughters of Edward III; Princess Joanna and Isabella as they are too young and he wants the marriage consummated sooner, Princess Joanna of England would be sent to France in Paris and bestowed the Duchess of Aquitaine or rather Guyenne and Gascony to meet her future husband and have Joanna know more in being the future queen of France, she would be the first close blood relation of the English King to marry the heir of France since Blanche of Castile, the eight year difference would not be an issue since it is Charles IV that promoted the marriage in the first place and would want Prince Francis to have kids at his teens and he knows how fragile are women at young age who easily have a miscarriage if pregnancy complications happen when they sire children at that age which could make them barren, the two would be later promised to marry when the groom can consummate the marriage when the groom is 13 and the bride is 21, she would stay in Paris in 1336 to meet her future husband and went to Guyenne and Gascony to rule it, however that would not mean that the French and the English would not have future problems as the English still have Ponthieu and the land of Brittany is ruled by a plantagenet scion which would spark future wars but Aquitaine and Gascony would be in Royal French rule.

Joanna of Evreux would grow and grow more Germanophile and Anglophile due to her favoring the Franciscans over the Pope in Avignon at this point due to the birth of a son which her husband Charles IV and her would quarrel upon and in the death of Charles IV on 1340 and the ascension of Francis I and her brief regency which she passed to Joanna of England after Francis I’s marriage with Joanna of England on the end of the year which is when Joanna of England would go to Paris from Aquitaine is where Aquitaine would go to the royal domain of France which ended the French protection of the pope in Avignon on Francis I’s reign.


Children of Edward III and Philippa of Hainault

Edward of Cornwall June 15, 1330

Isabella of England b. June 16, 1332

Joanna of England b. December 19, 1333

William February 10, 1337

Lionel b. November 15, 1338

John b. November 20, 1340

Edmund b. June 5, 1341

Mary b. October 10, 1344

Margaret b. July 28, 1346

Thomas b. January 4, 1355

Children of John of Eitham and Joanna of Penthievre(Jeanne I of Brittany)

*John b. 1338

*Guy b. 1340

*Henry b. 1342

*Marie b. 1345

*Marguerite b. 1346

As I see you have put the French royal coat of arms, do you have any ideas for the designs of your TL princes' crests ?
 
Succession Settlement
132px-Blason_Royaume_de_France_(1289-1316).svg.png


Succession Settlement

On 1345, John of Valois would marry Joanna of Naples carrying the inheritance of Provence which is disputed by the French Capetians and the Angevin branch of the Capets, the other would be the marriage of Mary of Naples to the Angevin branch of the Capets, giving Valois, the possession of Provence and parts of Piedmont which fixes the old time dispute regarding the possession of Provence during the time of Margaret of Provence which would mean the Valois would not just have Anjou but also Provence but the King of France, Charles IV would deprive his cousin’ Philip of Valois of Normandy and give it to his brother, Robert of France who himself is aiming to marry Margaret of Hainault, the Split of the Inheritance would result in the Capetian Angevins being more focused in Italy but not in France.

Joanna of Brabant would give birth to a daughter named Margaret of Hainault on May 10, 1338 who she betrothed to Robert of France a decade after her birth and her first husband would die in 1345, which denies the inheritance of Hainaut to the Wittelsbachs would remarry to the nephew of her first husband, Louis the Roman, who is younger than her husband after her first husband’s death on battle, she and her second husband would support the marriage between Margaret of Hainault and Robert of France.

Children of Joanna of Brabant

With William IV of Hainault

Margaret of Hainault b. 1338

With Louis of Bavaria

Elizabeth of Brabant b. 1346

Albert of Brabant b. 1352
 
Last edited:
A Compromised Alliance
132px-Blason_Royaume_de_France_(1289-1316).svg (1).png



A Compromised Alliance

On 1339, the marriage proposal between Blanche of France and Casimir III was signed, she is already of advanced age for marriage and has already spent some time in a nunnery due to her being the penance of Margaret of Burgundy’s sins she is already past her prime and early years as a bride, her sisters are heiresses and married into Flanders and as well as Burgundy and have produced children as well, Charles and John of Bohemia’s alliance to France would be compromised by the marriage, she was married in Proxy by 1340 and arrived at the same year, she would bear two daughters, Anna b. 1341 and Jadwiga and as well as a son named Konrad in 1350.

Charles I of Bohemia would have three children with his wife, Blanche of Valois namely John b. 1334, Margaret b. 1335 and Catherine b. 1342, the three children are said to be strong as well as his wife and John of Luxembourg, his father’s health would recover as well.

He would marry, the young Anne of Swidnica to his son, John to make peace with Hungary and marry his daughter Margaret of Bohemia to Louis of Hungary, despite this Hungary would retain its alliance with Poland, the marriage between Anne and John resulted in Anne’s uncle, Bolko the Small lands going to Bohemia which would result in a conflict with Poland.

Maiestas Carolina is signed as law in Bohemia in 1340’s which meant to increase the power of Monarchy in Bohemia.

On 1340, a marriage between Elizabeth of Bavaria and Boleslaw of Poland was arranged which as well would tie Poland to the Wittelsbachs alliance against the Bohemians, attended by Emperor Louis IV and King Casimir III.

The Kingdom of Poland would attack Bohemia due to its claims to Poland and would make a temporary Peace where in the Duchy of Namyslow and Wroclaw would be annexed to the crown of Poland in 1340 due to this and the Silesian Dukes of Opole and Glogow would show a strong alliance and subordination to the Polish throne.

Emperor Louis IV would have only have grand daugters surviving in his sons with Beatrice of Silesia which included the heiress of Tyrol, Margaret II of Tyrol b. 1339, only the Burgundian line of the Wittelsbachs would persist much longer, on 1349, Charles IV’s first wife, Blanche of Valois would die and Charles IV would marry Margaret II of Tyrol in order for Charles IV to make peace with the Wittelsbachs which also resulted in Rudolf IV of Austria to marry Anna of Poland in the same year.
 
Last edited:
Joanna, Duchess of Aquitaine and the King of Scotland
132px-Blason_Royaume_de_France_(1289-1316).svg.png


Joanna, Duchess of Aquitaine and the King of Scotland

As Joanna herself would prove to be a dutiful wife she would give birth to three children named Marie b. May 10, 1343, Charles b. June 10 1348 and May 4, Jeanne b. 1352, she would carry the Aquitainian inheritance to the French royal from the English and her husband would take care of her as well their common ancestor is Eleanor of Aquitaine who was the last independent ruler of Aquitaine, her husband, Francis I is a descendant of Marie, Countess of Champagne and Joanna, a descendant of John I of England.

Joanna had given up her own betrothal to the King of Scotland and married into the King of France carrying with her the inheritance of Aquitaine and it is Isabella of England who would marry the King of Scotland, however the King of Scotland in 1338,

After the victory of Edward III of England and his protégé Edward Balliol at the Battle of Halidon Hill in July 1333, David was sent for safety to France. They reached Boulogne-sur-Mer in May 1334, where they were received by Philip VI, Little is known about the life of the Scottish, except that they took up residence at Château Gaillard and Philip treated them with regard, he married Jeanne of France and cancelled his betrothal to Isabella of England who became betrothed to Peter of Castile, upon the cancellation of the marriage.

Jeanne of France children with David II of Scotland

John of Scotland b. 1342

Marie of Scotland b. 1344

Meanwhile, David's representatives had obtained the upper hand in Scotland, and David was enabled to return in June 1341 with Jeanne of France, when he took the reins of government into his own hands. David II was taken prisoner at the Battle of Neville's Cross in County Durham on 17 October 1346, and remained imprisoned in England for eleven years. Although Edward III allowed Jeanne of France to visit her husband in the Tower of London a few times.
 
Last edited:
Top