Alternative Soviet Navy during World War II.

[Aley]

Carriers of the project 34. Part 2.

August 18, 1970 by observers located in the South China Sea, the aircraft carrier "Petropavlovsk" were seen two U.S. attack aircraft A-7 "Corsair", one of which was clearly damaged. The damaged attack aircraft began to come in to land on Soviet aircraft carrier that the U.S. pilot, despite his wound, brilliantly successful. The pilot of the second attack aircraft, discovering his mistake in time, while flying in circles around the Soviet fleet, as if trying to see what was happening to his friend.
"Petropavlovsk" and the accompanying ships immediately turned north, trying to reach their territorial waters, but on the same day the U.S. ambassador in Moscow protested against the seizure of the U.S. military and its aircraft. The next day, "Petropavlovsk" approached American truck, which was transferred by crane damaged bomber, and then his pilot. He went away for a few miles, the Americans dropped the plane of the board, and as a result have not found the lack of it on some devices.
"Petropavlovsk" is returned to its main job, which was itself part of the diversion of U.S. aircraft carrier air groups to strike the territory of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

By the modernization of the "Petropavlovsk" Vladivostok Shipyard began in 1965. Archaism of the ship design has made it difficult for him to use modern aircraft, required installation of steam catapults, angled deck and construction of the new hangar is located lifts. At the same time replaced by a modern anti-aircraft weapons by aircraft carrier. Extending accelerated pace modernization ended in 1969, demanding reconstruction of the plant and the construction of a new dry dock. The same type of aircraft carrier "Slava" was similar upgrades in the years 1968-1970, in Severodvinsk.
Carriers received two steam catapults that replaced the old hydraulic, and two open lifts on the right side, which increased the capacity of the hangar. There were also installed additional tanks for storage of aviation fuel.
Anti-aircraft armament was represented by two anti-aircraft missile complexes M-11 "Storm" located at the forward starboard sponson and aft left sponson. The proximal line of defense provided the eight anti-aircraft AK-630.
In 1973, the aircraft carrier "Slava", together with the escort vessels located in the Mediterranean Sea, putting moral pressure on the Israeli military leading a war of aggression against Syria and Egypt. Despite the presence in the region, two U.S. aircraft carrier battle groups, the Israelis still had to allocate a portion of its aircraft to repel a possible Soviet air strike from an aircraft carrier. Perhaps it was for this reason that the Israelites could not force the Suez Canal, which dramatically reduced the loss of the Egyptians.
By the early 80-ies of the aircraft carrier air groups were under 36 MiG-23K fighters, 18 MiG-27K fighter-bombers, 4 antisubmarine Tu-18PL, 3 AWACS aircraft An-20 and 6 helicopters Ka-25.
In 1987, the "Petropavlovsk", along with other ships of the Pacific Fleet met the new aircraft carrier "Sovetskiy Soyuz". However, this solemn meeting played a fatal role in the fate of the old ship, soon after "Petropavlovsk" was removed from the Navy and scrapped.
The aircraft carrier "Slava" remained in the Northern Fleet to the early 90-ies., After which he was dismissed from the Navy.

 

[omnimercurial]

Excellent Stuff Aley!

I'm a bit sad about the scrapping of the forerunner though.

 

[Aley]

Excellent Stuff Aley!

I'm a bit sad about the scrapping of the forerunner though.

What ships are aging and dying. But there will be others.
I had two choices in the political development of this alternative: meets both the with the preservation of Khrushchev, or with transfer it to a more energetic the leader than Leonid Brezhnev, such as the Kulakov. But I chose the former.

 

[Aley]

Metamorphosis of a project 48.

Since the beginning of the construction of large aircraft carriers of "Molotov" revealed the need for new ships to escort them. And if the outposts carrier battle groups from surface ships have been constructed to take heavy cruisers of "Stalingrad", and providing air defense - light cruisers of the "Zhdanov", for anti-submarine warfare required new destroyers cruising range in excess of the existing destroyers project 72-bis.
Among these are the destroyers of the project 48. The distinctive features of the new project were stable installation of the main fire and a new boiler and turbine installation.
The head of a new type of destroyer was laid down at the factory “Name Zhdanov” in 1951. It was followed by 33 serial ship went into service between 1955 and 1957.

Design Displacement: 3,120 tons (standard), 3950 tons (full).
Speed: 36.5 knots at 72,000 hp of power machinery.
Range: 5,000 miles.
Armament: 2x2 130-mm/58 guns, 4x4 45 mm automatic, 2x5 533 - mm tubes.
Dimensions on waterline: 130,5x13,2x4,2 m.

After enacting the first anti-ship missile "KSSch" (SS-N-1), the project was redesigned for the new weapon, designated 48M. In addition to the installation of towers instead of the main fire launchers "flying bombs" with hangars for storage - 12 missiles, have been replaced by 57-mm anti-aircraft quad machines, instead of two five-funnel torpedo tubes were installed two-pipe at the board .
According upgrade projects were built 10 destroyers.

Antiship complex "KSSch" quickly out of date and was removed from service, resulting in a long overdue issue of rearmament destroyers project 48R. By that time it was upgraded five destroyers of the base project, replacing the aft setting of the main fire on AA missile system " Volna", which significantly increased air defense capability of these ships, designated 48U.

Terms of reference however, provided for the conversion of the ships on the project 48M in large multi-purpose ships – BMK (what was the analogue of the U.S. missile frigates), which causes their weapons helicopter Ka-25 with the installation of a hangar for its long-term home. As a result launcher AA system " Volna", with new missiles V- 601, was placed in the bow of the ship, in particular by eliminating one quad 57mm installation. But the ships were updated on 2x12 missile bomb launcher installation RBU-6000.

During the years 1966-1973 all ten destroyers project 48R were modernized and were reclassified into large multi-purpose ships.
Immediately after them, according to the same scheme were converted ten destroyers of the base project, designated 48MA. From ships 48M project they differed only in the presence of 3x4 45-mm units instead of 57 mm.

To create a schema ships were used material from the site http://www.shipbucket.com/

 

[Aley]

Missile cruisers of project 64.

The project destroyer with guided missiles began to be developed in the mid 50s. The first version of the project, with the deployment of anti-ships launchers, P-35 in the extremities, was rejected by the representatives of the Navy, which required strengthening anti-aircraft weapons. Anti-aircraft fire first version allowed only two air targets simultaneously, and the military capabilities required destruction of at least four. However, designers are not able to achieve a resolution to increase the displacement of the projected ship and they had to seek the possibility of placing a second anti-aircraft launcher is designed housing.
As a result, four missile launchers dual container P-35 were placed at the board in a central part of the housing, thereby freeing the end for placement of anti-aircraft guns. Ammunition missiles P -35 was down to eight, but a common set of anti-aircraft missiles V-600 was increased to 32. The rest were armed destroyers, two 76-mm gun mounts AK-726, two three-tube 533 - mm torpedo tubes and two antisubmarine missiles installation RBU- 6000.
Standard displacement was 4275 tons, total - 5325 m. Estimated speed was 34 knots.
The head of the project 64 destroyer, known as "Grozny", was laid at the factory Zhdanov, there were built and nine series of ships. Even during the construction destroyers were reclassified into missile cruisers, three ships had time to get the traditional "destroyers" names-adjectives have been renamed. It was supposed to build 12 ships of this type, four for the Northern and Pacific fleets, and two for the Baltic and the Black Sea. Eventually, however, limited to the construction of only ten ships, and the "Balts": "Vice-Admiral Drozd" and "Admiral Zozulja" included in the result, in part, respectively, of the Northern and Pacific fleets.

1. Grozny 1960-1961-1962 Northern Fleet
2. Admiral Fokin 1960-1961-1964 Pacific Fleet
3. Admiral Golovko 1961-1962-1964 Northern Fleet
4. Varyag 1961-1963-1965 Pacific Fleet
5. Vice-Admiral Drozd 1962-1963-1965 Northern Fleet
6. Admiral Zozulja 1963-1964-1965 Pacific Fleet
7. Sevastopol 1963-1964-1966 Black Sea Fleet
8. Askold 1964-1965-1966 Northern Fleet
9. Vladivostok 1964-1965-1966 Pacific Fleet
10. Krasnyy Kavkaz 1965-1966-1967 Black Sea Fleet

 

[Aley]

BMK Project 85 of the first series.

In the years 1962-1972 saw the commissioning built by Nikolaev of the plant named after 61 Communards 14 patrol ships anti-submarine and anti-air defense project 66, shortly reclassified to large multi-purpose ships (BMK). Despite the high quality running new BMK showed dissatisfaction with the Navy failure of their weapons, especially anti represented a five-funnel torpedo tubes and four anti-submarine bomb launcher settings. In the end, it was decided to begin the design of the new ship of this class, with power arms and the presence of the hangar for the helicopter.
The draft of the new BMK, received number 85, included installation of new air defense systems "Storm" and, initially, the two dual container launchers of anti-ship missiles P-35. The presence of such missiles, as well as the possibility of using SAM "Storm" in the form of anti-ship, replace automatic gun mount AK-726 on the smaller caliber AK-725 with greater capacity to engage in high-speed low-flying targets.
The emergence of armed U.S. Navy anti-submarine missile and torpedo complex "ASROK" forced the leadership of the Soviet Navy revise the requirements for the arming of BMK Project 85. As a result of the installation of missiles P-35 refused, instead setting the bow of the anti- submarine complex PRK-1 "Vikhr" with ammunition of eight missiles , multiple weapons and relegating the rest of the superstructure to the stern , in order to compensate for the increased weight of the bow.
Construction of the first BMK project started 85 of the first series at the Leningrad plant Zhdanov in 1965, then in 1966 was laid down on the two case series.

1. Murmansk 1965-1966-1968
2. Marshal Voroshilov 1966-1967-1968
3. Zhelezniakov 1966-1967-1969

"Murmansk" and "Zhelezniakov" became part of the Northern Fleet, and "Marshal Voroshilov" Pacific Fleet.
The main drawback of the new BMK was found too low position of the helicopter landing, but this blunder was eliminated in the construction of the second series of BMK.
In 1972, the project adopted BMK 85 received a new anti-submarine missile with a small-sized torpedo "Calibri ", after which their ammunition consisted of four missile-torpedo and four missiles with nuclear warheads 82R.

Displacement : normal - 6200 t, total - 7175 t.
Dimensions (waterline): 145,0x16,2x5,10 m.
Speed: 33 knots.
Armament: 1 anti-submarine system PRK-1 "Vikhr" (8 missiles), 2 anti-aircraft missile complex M-11 "Storm" (48 missiles), 2x2 57-mm gun mount, 2x5 533-mm tubes, 2x12 and 2x6 anti-submarine mortars (supplied with 192 missiles and 48 respectively), the Ka -25.

According to the American classification to the mid 70 's. these ships were registered guided missile frigate.

Used materials from the site: http://www.shipbucket.com/

 

[Aley]

Large multi-purpose ships of projects 85 of the second series and 85M.

The orientation of the mid 60's most of the surface forces of the Soviet Navy's anti nuclear submarine likely opponent necessitated a substantial intensification of the anti-submarine, and, above all, sonar equipment of large multi-purpose ships. Therefore, after the construction of the three BMK Project 85 of the first series, the ship began laying an improved design with a new sonar "Titan-2" with placing her in the nose bulb fairing.
Thus, although the overall dimensions of the ships of the second series are the same, they were placed increased artillery weapons: automatic gun mount AK-725 have been replaced with larger caliber AK-726 (because of what had greatly narrow the aft deckhouse), were additionally placed six-barreled 30-mm AK-630. Tonnage of ships has increased by 100 tonnes. Total in Leningrad plant name after Zhdanov was built seven ships of project 85 second series.

1. Tallin 1967-1968-1970 North Fleet
2. Kronstadt 1967-1969-1970 North Fleet
3. Arkhangelsk 1968-1969-1970 North Fleet
4. Admiral Makarov 1969-1970-1971 Pacific Fleet
5. Admiral Lazarev 1969-1971-1972 Pacific Fleet
6. Admiral Nakhimov 1970-1972-1972 North Fleet
7. Marshal Timoshenko 1971-1972-1973 Pacific Fleet

Has information on the early development of the U.S. anti-ship missiles of the new generation forced of Soviet designers to work out the installation of similar missiles P-15M and P-120 under on the ships of the domestic fleet. Since the displacement of BMK 85 project has already reached critical to their rhythm, the designers were forced to go on the extension of the body by three meters by installing a cylindrical insert. In this case, in order to avoid an unwanted increase of the total length of the hulls of the new project, designated 85M, which was limited by the size of the closed hangar plant name after Zhdanov, his nose in the formation of the above-water has been changed. Normal displacement was a result of 6357 tonnes and 7290 tonnes full. Attack missile armament consisted of two triple launchers of anti-ship missiles P-120, located at the board from the conning tower.
Total plant name after Zhdanov had been built four ships 85M project.

1. Admiral Isakov 1972-1974-1974 North Fleet
2. Marshall Budennyi 1972-1974-1975 North Fleet
3. Admiral Yumashev 1974-1975-1976 Pacific Fleet
4. Rear Admiral Ivanov 1975-1976-1977 North Fleet

One of the drawbacks of the ships of the second series of projects 85 and 85M is considered to be degraded compared to the habitability of the prototype, which was due to the installation of additional weapons and equipment. Particularly disadvantageous they looked on this indicator in comparison with BMK projects in 1122 and 1122A, the construction of which was carried respectively by Nikolaev plant named after 61 Communards and Leningrad Baltic factory.

 

[Aley]

Anti-submarine helicopter-carrier type of the "Kiev".

In November 1979, the U.S. carrier battle groups headed aircraft carrier "Enterprise" fell into the trap. Cross the Atlantic, heading for the Mediterranean Sea, the squadron was clamped in a vise between the approaching from the north to the Soviet aircraft carrier "Pobeda" and suddenly came out into the ocean through the Strait of Gibraltar, "Slava." Dodging from the "Pobeda", the Americans changed the course down to the south, which allowed them to play the game with one "Slava" and thus attempt to "destroy" Soviet aircraft carriers one at a time.
November 12, dozen stormtroopers A-6 "Intruder" is still broken to the "Slava", circled over the connection, and a few hours later near the broadside of the Soviet aircraft carrier, with the anti- submarine "Viking", was dropped funeral wreath, decorative scalp and white lettering on black ribbon: «Glory».
However, by focusing attention on the "Slava" and "Pobeda", arrogant Americans have lost sight of the third located in the Atlantic Soviet Union, which directly meet due to the change of the course and they are now moving. At dawn on November 13 shocked Americans suddenly discovered the light aircraft carriers "Kiev" and accompanied him BMK "Kuibyshev" just forty miles from the "Enterprise", which was much lower than the limiting range of their anti-ship missiles P-120. At this time, funeral wreath with the inscription «Enterprise» was dropped from a helicopter Ka-25.

The fallacy of the decision to withdraw from the Navy and the deposit scrapped in 1960-1961, light aircraft carriers type of the "Arkhangelsk" ("Chapaev"), became clear after only a few years, when the displacement of the projected anti-submarine helicopter-carrier slowly but steadily increased to 20,000 tons, instead of initial 10,000. However, the rapid increase in the number of subs - carrier ballistic missiles in the fleet likely opponent demanded the speedy construction of ships able to resist them. As a result, although originally intended to conduct anti-submarine helicopter-carrier only build on Nicholas Black see factory had to plug in a program providing for the construction of six ships, and even Baltic Plant.
The head helicopter-carrier project 1129 "Kiev" was founded in the spring of 1965 the plant on the Black Sea. A year later, at the Baltic shipyard began building the same type of "Minsk". After the launching of the first two buildings on the same stocks were laid "Yerevan" and "Tbilisi".

1. Kiev 1966-1968-1969 Black Sea Fleet
2. Minsk 1967-1968-1969 Northern Fleet
3. Yerevan 1968-1970-1971 Black Sea Fleet
4. Tbilisi 1968-1970-1972 Pacific Fleet
The refusal of the originally projected, located in the center plane, a pyramidal structure (mast-cutting-chimney), as contrary to the existing experience of operating aircraft carriers, has caused an increase in the standard displacement of 15,000 tons, which was motivated by the desire to obtain a stable platform for landing operations, despite a sharp increase in the size of the superstructure , the "island" that is associated with an increase in the size and range of electronic equipment. As a result, the hangar was extended to the nose, surpassing in size hangar option number 23 almost doubled, and the flight deck, with the increased number of take-off sites took three-quarters of the length of the ship, being limited only to the bow of the launchers of anti-ship missiles P-120 "Malachite." In this helicopter deck was asymmetrical in plan, with a serving area on the left side, partially offsetting the weight of the superstructure side.
The increase in displacement caused three-shaft design power plant turbines which were located along the echelon pattern in separate compartments (starting from the stern , consistently - the starboard side, left side, center) . Although originally intended to perform machine-boiler plant for combined scheme, with gas turbine unit operating on the middle shaft, this idea was abandoned due to the inability to provide rapid replacement of the gas turbine without opening the decks.
Refused and from original install anti- submarine missile system RPK-1 "Vikhr", as the thought that twenty available on board helicopters will provide a permanent combat patrols, in addition PPK were to be present on board the large multipurpose ships, for sending such a large ship in a single voyage was complete madness.
Even offered to give up placing on board helicopter-carrier launched missiles anti-aircraft, leaving only the AK -725, but the Commander of the Navy Gorshkov held that such a proposal was premature.
As a result, the project adopted in 1129 accounted for 20 Ka-25, 8 arranged in pairs anti-ship missile launchers P -120, 2 anti-aircraft missile complex "Storm", 2x2 57 mm automatic gun mount and two anti-submarine rocket mortars RBU- 6000.
Almost simultaneously with the laying of the second pair of helicopter-carriers issued a decree of the Central Committee of the KPSS and the USSR Council of Ministers on the establishment of a light attack aircraft Yak-36M VTOL, which was intended for the based on the ships project of 1129. But only in 1972, the first VTOL aircraft of this type of landing on the deck of PV "Kiev". The first flight demonstrated the need to strengthen intended for VTOL aircraft runways, with the installation of the thermal insulation. These works were carried out on all four ships of the project in the years 1974-1976, and as a result of the displacement fields to the port side managed to get by without overdrive to compensate for weight reduction sites located on the same side of the ballast. As a result, "Kiev", "Yerevan" and "Tbilisi" was carried by six aircraft vertical takeoff and landing Yak-38, the number of helicopters as they dropped to 16. "Minsk", by special order of the commander of the Northern Fleet did not get on board aircraft, helicopter-carrier staying clean. Despite this, in 1977 he and three other ships of this type was reclassified as light aircraft carriers (AK).

Displacement: 15100 (standard), 21370 (full) tons.
Speed: 33 knots.
Power: 135000 HP
Dimensions (waterline): 210x25,65x7,5 m.

 

[omnimercurial]

Excellent update!

Really good to see VTOL's coming into play too! Maybe in this TL the Yak 141 will go into full production?

I'm sure a fair few people are kicking themselves for scrapping those earlier carriers now eh.

I've always preferred Soviet Carrier design myself really as their multirole abilities in my opinion are more worthwhile & require less of an escort fleet in comparison to the US.

 

[Aley]

Excellent update!

Really good to see VTOL's coming into play too! Maybe in this TL the Yak 141 will go into full production?

I'm sure a fair few people are kicking themselves for scrapping those earlier carriers now eh.

I've always preferred Soviet Carrier design myself really as their multirole abilities in my opinion are more worthwhile & require less of an escort fleet in comparison to the US.

No, I do rely on full-fledged aircraft carriers, although the road to it is along the curve. You have probably noticed that aircraft and missile weapons at me too, as in real history, except for the absence of anti-submarine missile "Metel" and anti-ships - "Granit". Both of these types of missiles heavily damaged the evolution of Soviet ships.

 

[omnimercurial]

No, I do rely on full-fledged aircraft carriers, although the road to it is along the curve. You have probably noticed that aircraft and missile weapons at me too, as in real history, except for the absence of anti-submarine missile "Metel" and anti-ships - "Granit". Both of these types of missiles heavily damaged the evolution of Soviet ships.

Ah I see. I get your meaning.

You were laying the foundations for greater growth & skill development to allow for a greater expanded Navy with more specialised Vessels versus OTL's Swiss Army Knife Carriers.

I can see your point regarding OTL development being retarded via stopgap measures. Multirole is necessary with a small Navy but if you have a big Navy as this ATL is moving towards then specialisation works well.

A good quote re this phenomenon you want to avert is "Jack of all trades, Master of none."

looking forward to seeing this Industry develop in your TL, keep up the good work.

 

[Aley]

Ah I see. I get your meaning.

You were laying the foundations for greater growth & skill development to allow for a greater expanded Navy with more specialised Vessels versus OTL's Swiss Army Knife Carriers.

I can see your point regarding OTL development being retarded via stopgap measures. Multirole is necessary with a small Navy but if you have a big Navy as this ATL is moving towards then specialisation works well.

A good quote re this phenomenon you want to avert is "Jack of all trades, Master of none."

looking forward to seeing this Industry develop in your TL, keep up the good work.

Not really, I started with the Soviet Navy during the war, not going to continue at first. But then I began to wonder what impact these changes will have on the post-war fleet.
The Soviet fleet, due to the lack of aircraft carriers was expensive useless toy, that's me and I wanted to build at least a few pieces, increasing its effectiveness, a little. The main trouble of the Soviet fleet in real history was its lack of understanding of the it role of the government and lobby commanders of submarines, who, because a large number of submarines during the war, were in the majority. In my own alternative submarine fleet is smaller and surface ships, on the contrary, more.
World War III, in my alternative will not.
Thanks for the kind words.

 

[Aley]

Patrol ships of the project 1126

The rapid growth of the size of the projected patrol ships, anti-aircraft and anti-submarine defence led to the need for a smaller escort ship that soon, by analogy with renamed in BMK SKR PVO-PLO became known as a small multi-purpose ship (MMK). As the prototype were chosen escort ships of the project 56, with the addition of the landing pad and hangar-based antisubmarine helicopter. Recommended just replace diesel-gas turbine power plant at the steam turbine. Total displacement of the ship was designed to make no more than 3000 tonnes.
Almost immediately it became clear that lift helicopter landing pad on the acceptable height at a given displacement did not succeed even when the gas turbine plant (gas turbine design options was conducted in parallel), which was caused by a problem of stability, as aft AK-726 was located forward of the hangar and therefore above it. Reluctantly had to prevent an increase in the total tonnage of 3500 tons.
Shortly after the reclassification of the projected ship from the SKR in MMK was decided to replace one of the gun mounts AK-726 missile system to the universal "Volna" with giving him the possibility of firing and anti-submarine missiles (which was never completed). Since when placing this missile system to replace the aft gun mount severely limits its firing angles in the forward sector, it was decided to install it in place of the nose AK-726, which gave the ship of this project is rather peculiar appearance.
As a result, only limited to the construction of nine ships of this type of gas turbine option seemed much more profitable. After the start of construction MMK were again reclassified in patrol ships.
By NATO patrol ships of the project in 1126 were registered guided missile escort destroyers, and since 1975 guided missile frigates.

1. Nikolay Markin 1966-1967-1967 Putilov shipyard
2. Semen Roshal 1966-1967-1968 Putilov shipyard
3. Vladimir Polukhin 1967-1967-1968 Putilov shipyard
4. Timofey Ulyantsev 1967-1968-1969 Yantar
5. Ivan Borisov 1967-1968-1969 Putilov shipyard
6. Sergey Shuvalov 1967-1968-1969 Putilov shipyard
7. Pavel Golovin 1968-1968-1969 Putilovskaya shipyard
8. Andrian Zasimov 1969-1970-1970 Yantar
9. Ivan Sladkov 1969-1970-1971 Yantar

Displacement (standard/full): 3000/3525 t.
Speed: 30 knots. Steam-turbine plant power: 48000 hp.
Armament: 1x2 PU universal missile complex "Volna" (24 missiles), 1x2 76 mm, 2x4 533-mm torpedo tubes, 2x12 RBU-6000, 1 helicopter Ka-25.
Dimensions (KVL): 117,0x13,7x4,55 m.

 

[Aley]

Patrol ships of the project 1136

Reclassification of small multipurpose ships of the project in 1126 the TFR impact primarily on them to develop a variant with a gas turbine propulsion. It was decided to replace the SAM "Volna" for the second gun mounts AK726, which favorably affected seaworthiness smaller gas turbine ship, the draft of which has been renamed from 1126B in 1136. The project was eventually recognized as the most optimal for mass construction.
There were built 25 patrol ships of project 1136: 12 in the "Yantar", 6 in Putilov shipyard and in 7 Kerch shipyard. Two ships Kerch shipyard intended to Maritime Border Guard, and were transferred to the Pacific Ocean.
The disadvantage of the project was only the small size of the helicopter hangar, which could not accommodate a promising helicopter Ka-27.
The last four ships were built Kerch shipyard for the Soviet border guards project 1136.2. From the basic design of these PSKR different large size helicopter hangar, which could be based new helicopters Ka-27, placed in return feed and gun mount SAM "Osa", the bow of the AK-726 was replaced with a new, single-barreled, AK-102.

Displacement (normal/full) 2825/3,190 m.
Speed: 32 knots. PTU Power: 46000 hp
Armament: 2x2 76 mm 2x2 launchers SAM "Osa", 2x4 533-mm torpedo tubes, 2x12 PLRK RBU-6000, one Ka-25.
Dimensions (KWL) 113,0x13,2x4,5 m.

 

[Damocles]

Krasnyy

Hey there Aley,

I was wondering if you can maybe show me some more photographs of the Krasnyy Aircraft Carrier. And are the Dimensions you gave for the upper picture or the bottom one? Thank you in advance!

-John

 

[Aley]

Hey there Aley,

I was wondering if you can maybe show me some more photographs of the Krasnyy Aircraft Carrier. And are the Dimensions you gave for the upper picture or the bottom one? Thank you in advance!

-John

Sorry, I did not understand what you mean? What kind of aircraft carriers, you say, what about the photographs? If the "Krasny Aviator", then his other schemes, I did not. Top view, I can do, but it will take a lot of time.
All images ships are made on the same scale, taken at the site "Shipbucket."
Sincerely.

 

[Aley]

Large multi-purpose ships of the project’s 1132B and 1132A

Drake strait met Soviet ships hardest by the storm. Even a giant hull of "Sovetskiy Soyuz" was swinging like a toy boat, what to speak of almost ten times smaller in displacement than an aircraft carrier, BMK "Kursk"? Watch the sailors from the aircraft carrier it seemed that the "Kursk" sometimes completely disappeared in the waves, over the water leaving only its pyramidal tower.
However, the atomic BMK honorably stood the test, moving storm without damage thus proving the correctness of the design of its hull, is very different from the shape of hulls previous projects.

In the second half of the 60s. It started the development of two new types of BMK differed from ships of the project 85 type power plant: nuclear 1132A and gas turbine received an initial designation 1132G. The designation of the second project, for unknown reasons, was soon changed to the 1132B.

Project 1132B

The ships of the project 1132B started to build the first in factory to Nicholas "named after 61 Communards" (Russud). It was built eight ships of this type, the names of which repeated the name of the first Soviet heavy cruisers laid down before World War II.

1. Kirov 1968-1969-1970 PF
2. Sverdlov 1969-1970-1972 BSF
3. Ordzhonikidze 1970-1971-1972 BSF
4. Dzerzhinsky 1971-1972-1973 BSF
5. Chapaev 1972-1973-1974 PF
6. Frunze 1973-1975-1975 PF
7. Kuibyshev 1975-1976-1978 PF
8. Schors 1976-1977-1980 BSF

From BMK previous draft new ships different power weapons and ammunition increased anti-aircraft missile complex "Storm".

Full displacement - 8763 t.
Dimensions (KWL) 166,0x16,9x5.74 m.
Speed: 32 knots.
Armament: 4x2 PU ASM P-120, 1 anti-missile complex RPK-1 "Vikhr" (8 missiles), 2 anti-aircraft missile complex M-11 "Storm" (72 missiles), 2x2 76-mm gun mount, 4x6 30-mm gun mount, 2x5 533 mm TA, 2x12 and 2x6 antisubmarine rocket mortars (192 ammunition and 48 rockets, respectively), Ka-25.

Project 1132A

The need to design atomic BMK was argued preparation for the laying of the first nuclear aircraft carrier project 1139 (later "Pobeda") and, therefore, the need to have adequate escorts for him. The original ideology of the new project does not differ from the BMC Project 85 except more displacement. This circumstance also caused more differences as the design of the new ship. Adding to the project of new 102-mm gun mounts and anti-ship missiles P-120 (the number of which increases several times) affects the appearance of the new ship.
The available in the original version of the draft emergency diesel engines M-507A have been replaced by two oil boilers.
In 1970 it was decided to project armed with BMK 1132A new modification of anti-missile system M-111 ("Storm-M"). Upgrading ADMS "Storm" was carried out in two directions: the creation of a universal complex "Storm-U" with the addition of the possibility of firing at surface targets (these SAMs were rearmed BMK projects 85) and complex "Storm-M" that can fire up to four targets simultaneously. Such SAM, in addition to the large multipurpose ships 1132A project, received and projected simultaneously with the aircraft carrier "Pobeda".
SAM Launchers "Storm-M" have been modified in order to give them the possibility of firing antisubmarine rocket-torpedos that eliminated the separate launcher for the past, replaced in the final draft of the third 102-mm gun mount.
First BMK 1132A project, dubbed "Kursk" was laid down at the Baltic Shipyard in late 1972. It was built, as compared to the BMK Project 1132B, rather slow, due to the delayed development of SAM "Storm-M", one of the reasons that there was a sharp covert struggle between the developers of the new "Storm" and the advocates of a unified air defense system options "P-300". As a result, the third tab BMK project was canceled in 1132, began developing a new version of the draft with SAM "Fort", until the end and not carried.
Both built nuclear BMK joined the Northern Fleet, escorting the aircraft carrier "Pobeda" in the campaigns in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean, but in 1987 "Kursk" was sent to the Pacific Ocean with a new aircraft carrier "Sovetskiy Soyuz".

1. Kursk 1972-1976-1979 SF
2. Kaliningrad 1976-1978-1982 SF

Full displacement - 11,500 tons.
Dimensions (KWL) 171,8x19,2x6,22 m.
Speed: 32 knots.
Armament: 6x2 PU ASM P-120, two anti-aircraft missile complex M-11M "Storm-M" (8 antisubmarine and 88 antiaircraft), 3x1 102-mm gun mount, 4x6 30-mm gun mount, 2x5 533 mm TA, 2x12 and 2x6 antisubmarine rocket mortars (192 ammunition and 48 rockets, respectively), Ka-25 or Ka-27.