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Yeah Claymore did one a while back.Has anyone done a M3 Grant StUG?
Advanced future combat reconnaissance vehicle.Actually, there is no time period specified for this thread. All AH AFV designs and concepts are welcome. 👍
Addendum, it should be quick and very resistant to attacks. Is it possible at the same time ?
- Cold War
- Infantry support
- It's post-1964 coup Brazil.
- MBT
- A blend of the M551 Sheridan – Armored Reconnaissance Airborne Assault Vehicle/Light Tank, used by the US Army from 1969 and Centurion Mk 5 Main Battle Tank – used by the Australian Army, with AVLB and ARV variants.
- Brazilians partecipate in a way similar to South Koreans and realize they need to upgrade their arsenal in case a potential war breaks out in South America if one of their neighbors becomes communist
Didn't the US mount a 152mm gun in a version of the M60?Here are some offerings to match your description. ..
Centurion Mk 5/X2: Given that the turret ring of the Centurion and M551 Sheridan are almost exactly the same, take one is just a simple remounting of the Sheridan's steel turret onto a Centurion Mk5 hull. It looks quite fetching from the front but a little ridiculous from the side...
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Centurion Mk 5/X3: Next I decided to keep the Centurion's larger and better protected turret and mount the Sheridan's M81E1 152 mm Gun/Launcher directly to it along with the associated missile tracking optics. The end result is certainly a more robust vehicle which could probably cope well with the 152mm gun's considerable recoil...
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Centurion Mk 5/X4: This got me thinking that if we are keeping the larger Centurion turret than perhaps the larger 152 mm XM150E gun/launcher from the proposed MBT-70 would be a better option and give a much greater rate of fire.
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M48X4 Patton: And finally, for those that might prefer a US solution, I give you the same 152mm XM-150E gun/launcher but mounted in the M48 Patton...
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M60a2 "Starship". The 152mm was a bit of an abortion apparently. Whenever it was fired its optics were knocked out of alignment, rendering it completely inaccurate. Both the Sheridan and the M60 (and I assume the MBT70) were basically useless with the Shillelagh missile.Didn't the US mount a 152mm gun in a version of the M60?
Only the Sheridan was affected by the gun recoil. The real problem is that the missile doesn't work below 20°C because of humidity blinding its IR guidance system.M60a2 "Starship". The 152mm was a bit of an abortion apparently. Whenever it was fired its optics were knocked out of alignment, rendering it completely inaccurate. Both the Sheridan and the M60 (and I assume the MBT70) were basically useless with the Shillelagh missile.
The M60A2 had more problems with the gun than just that. The Tank Encyclopedia lists a few of them, like this...M60a2 "Starship". The 152mm was a bit of an abortion apparently. Whenever it was fired its optics were knocked out of alignment, rendering it completely inaccurate. Both the Sheridan and the M60 (and I assume the MBT70) were basically useless with the Shillelagh missile.
The missile was guided to the target via IF (Infrared) beam. As long as the gunner kept the target in his scope, the missile would strike accurately. This system, however, contributed to one of the tank’s major issues. The M162 Gun/Launcher experienced frequent faulty breeches. Often, not closing correctly, allowing the exhaust of the launching Shillelagh to vent hot noxious gasses into the crew compartment.
In early testing, the system was plagued with misfires and premature detonations of the conventional case ammunition, caused by unburnt propellant in the bore and breech. This was often catastrophic as it set off the projectile in the barrel as it was fired. To combat this, early versions of the gun were equipped with a traditional fume extractor on the barrel. Later versions would use the Closed Bore Scavenger system, a compressed air system that pushed the fumes and gasses out of the muzzle when the breech is opened.
The A2 had a short service life succumbing to the same failings of Sheridan, concerning the missile system. The designers of the missile, Ford Aeronutronic, a division of the Ford Motor Company, greatly underestimated the task of producing a fully operational Anti-Tank Guided Missile as advanced as the MGM-51. Development of the Shillelagh was awash with technical and mechanical issues, including problems with the propellant, ignition of the propellant, tracking system and the infrared command link responsible for missile guidance.
Oh wow. I don't think I've ever actually seen an image of the M60A2 with a regular cannon before. IT looks rather charming, though I imagine the interior of the turret would be...interesting.
After the T95 program had been abandoned, the turret interchangeability concept didn’t go completely away. An initial assessment was even carried out on the XM60 as to whether it could take the British turret, the conclusion was that it was possible although it would certainly have been an odd-looking tank. The end outcome of all of the interchangeability studies is hard to gauge.
Cool design, was wondering if this would make a good upgrade for countries with M41s?Here are some offerings to match your description. ..
Centurion Mk 5/X2: Given that the turret ring of the Centurion and M551 Sheridan are almost exactly the same, take one is just a simple remounting of the Sheridan's steel turret onto a Centurion Mk5 hull. It looks quite fetching from the front but a little ridiculous from the side...
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Centurion Mk 5/X3: Next I decided to keep the Centurion's larger and better protected turret and mount the Sheridan's M81E1 152 mm Gun/Launcher directly to it along with the associated missile tracking optics. The end result is certainly a more robust vehicle which could probably cope well with the 152mm gun's considerable recoil...
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Centurion Mk 5/X4: This got me thinking that if we are keeping the larger Centurion turret than perhaps the larger 152 mm XM150E gun/launcher from the proposed MBT-70 would be a better option and give a much greater rate of fire.
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M48X4 Patton: And finally, for those that might prefer a US solution, I give you the same 152mm XM-150E gun/launcher but mounted in the M48 Patton...
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Trying to find a pic of a Sladin, thought I had one but can't seem to find it.Could a Saladin armored car turret with a 76mm gun fit on a M5 Stuart light tank?
Trying to find a pic of a Sladin, thought I had one but can't seem to find it.
M60A2 with regular cannon is much more appealing to me.
How M60A2 should have been if it had to use a gun launcher anyway.
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The XM150 was also quite remarkable when it comes to installation, as it had a shorter recoil length and lower imbalance than the alternatives, which means the gun control system could be made weaker and lighter, or that the trunions could have been moved further forward and still have a balanced gun.
The Saladin turret will not fit on the M5 because of the M5's raised engine deck but it is tight fit on the M3.Could a Saladin armored car turret with a 76mm gun fit on a M5 Stuart light tank?
Love it! I had in mind a ATL Rhodesian tank forces when I thought of this.The Saladin turret will not fit on the M5 because of the M5's raised engine deck but it is tight fit on the M3.
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However I suspect the M3's turret ring is actually too small for the Saladin's turret, the front view makes me think it wouldn't work.
I'm glad you like but I really don't think it works.Love it! I had in mind a ATL Rhodesian tank forces when I thought of this.