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Go with a standard AT gun & a box laucher for AT missles? Or just leave it with the big AT gun?
Alternative History Armoured Fighting Vehicles Part 2
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Go with a standard AT gun & a box laucher for AT missles? Or just leave it with the big AT gun?
This recent discussion of post-nuclear vehicles gave me an idea - could you guys please design my Susi APC for me?
It is a wheeled vehicle designed and built under the Finnish National Administration in my P&S spinoff. Here is the original reference from the TL:
This is a 6x6 vehicle built in between 2000-2010 (or circa two decades after the nuclear war), by a poor and heavily militarized but orderly post-nuclear survivor state that has some industrial capability and access to 70s-80s level technology. The Susi is designed primarily for crowd control and potential action against insurgents/bandits armed with rifle caliber weapons. It has a crew of 2-4 and the capacity to carry circa 10 soldiers. It should have some protection against radiation, but then it is not envisioned to be used in areas with heavy radiation, rather in towns and other areas generally considered "safe". The Susi is only built in very limited numbers (<50) and seen as a prestige item by TTL's Finnish military commanders.
For its outward appearance, I think something from between the Sisu XA-180 (some former Sisu people involved in the Pasi design might work with the Susi), the Tatrapan (with which the Susi would share a very similar chassis) and the Saxon. The appearance should have a somewhat post-apocalyptic feel but not overtly so.
Have at it, if you find this of interest.
Just an initial stab...
Now here's an interesting question inspired by a recent ASB thread;
Let's say that in 1940., right after the fall of France, Germany recieves the full schematics of a Soviet T-55 MBT. So the question is what would the Germans do? Build a T-55 clone or use the schematics as the base for a mutated alt-Panther?
Let's say that in 1940., right after the fall of France, Germany recieves the full schematics of a Soviet T-55 MBT. So the question is what would the Germans do? Build a T-55 clone or use the schematics as the base for a mutated alt-Panther?
I don't think they could build an exact copy, at least not right away. They would have to use a German engine, most likely the Maybach-HL 230 V-12 and they would probably stick the 8.8 cm KwK 36 L/56 gun in it too. The Germans didn't make cast turrets in WWII so they'd probably make something like the Panther's turret.
So the tank might end up looking something like a T-55 with a Panther turret but with the 8.8 cm KwK gun.
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I think there would be a move to reproduce the T-55 in its entirety. OTL the T-55 was extremely successful and I think that the 1940 Germans would realise this. As a stop gap until the cast turret could be reproduced, I believe that the new Tiger I turret would be used as a substitute. It is the biggest tank gun available at the time and more importantly the Tiger I shares the same 1830mm turret ring size as the T-55.
I also believe that the canny Germans would reproduce what they could and would see the fume extractor as a distinct advantage plus any night fighting aids. The end result might have looked like this...
Does anyone have a good line drawing of the Japanese type 74 tank? I'm actually building a model of one that I want to work into my still-gestating TL. I just want a good reference picture to help me build.
Also, I too have a soft spot for the MBT-70. That's probably why I bought this T74 model
Also, I too have a soft spot for the MBT-70. That's probably why I bought this T74 model
Vjacheslav Malyshev
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The German verison had a 120mm so this is what it look like:
Not much different then OTL, the Germans lack the industrial capability and know how to both make the turret and the engine. And if they use a domestic engine they probably can't put it sidewise like the V-55 is so they would to make it longer. At the point time in time the gun is also probably sufficiently advanced so can't be mass produced.
The German verison had a 120mm so this is what it look like:
Hmmm, that gun still looks very much like the original 152mm weapon (length, bore, fume extractor position, etc)...
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The German verison had a 120mm so this is what it look like:
That photo nicely shows off one of the theoretical purposes of the hydro-pneumatic suspension. Deflate(what would the right term be?) the front suspension, so the tank can more easily hunker hull-down behind available cover, without calling in the engineers.
Would they ever have considered mounting a TOW missile launcher on the side of the turret, instead of the combo weapon?
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Okay gentlemen... if you had access to an A - 7V tank from the Great War and you had 1950s / 1960s level of knowledge, but in a post apocalyptic situation.
What would you change, considering that you would also be exposed to radiation above the surface and have a mixed human, mutant (claws / fangs etc) and Ork threat.
You also have a rough industrial capability, one to ponder.
What would you change, considering that you would also be exposed to radiation above the surface and have a mixed human, mutant (claws / fangs etc) and Ork threat.
You also have a rough industrial capability, one to ponder.
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