Alternative End to the British Empire?

Why assume that there is still a Canada if the Yankees are stronger? That might be the Empire's obstacle right there. Lose Canada, and the whole thing can happen more smoothly.

Well, we'd probably look towards the valuable Caribbean after that, encroaching on British territory again.
 
Why assume that there is still a Canada if the Yankees are stronger? That might be the Empire's obstacle right there. Lose Canada, and the whole thing can happen more smoothly.
Or we could have the Yanks stronger due to better relations with Britain early on...
 
Worthless islands of sugar and sand? The golden age of the British Caribbean was gone by 1850. Spain's colonies on the other hand...
So more & earlier American expansion would give us a more successful Britain? Could work, but I doubt the Canucks will like it too much... ;)
 
So more & earlier American expansion would give us a more successful Britain? Could work, but I doubt the Canucks will like it too much... ;)

That is quite possibly the case, but this could solve the South Africa problems as well, if loyal, Pro-British Canucks were encouraged to resettle in southern Africa.
 
Why assume that there is still a Canada if the Yankees are stronger? That might be the Empire's obstacle right there. Lose Canada, and the whole thing can happen more smoothly.

That just means that there are less people in the white dominions making them less important to Britain and thus reducing British interest in federating them.
 
That just means that there are less people in the white dominions making them less important to Britain and thus reducing British interest in federating them.

Or, the settlers that might have gone to Canada settle instead in the other white dominions.
 
Or, the settlers that might have gone to Canada settle instead in the other white dominions.

South Africa wasn't looked on fondly(once reports filtered back), Australia took a while to get of the ground and wasn't exactly a paradise (moving the Canadians to Australia would result in a near 7 fold increase in 1850 or so) and New Zealand would take until the middle of the 19th century to get going as well.

We also need to consider the fat that a large number of those in Canada early on moved from the US or were already there as French people, those people and their descendants are a dead loss straight away.

My guess is that Britain and the US see most of the increase(although it's possible that the US might not be that affected if they no longer have Canada as a way station between Britain and their shores and it might even be a loss).

It's all moot anyway since Britain losing Canada isn't all that likely.
 
I thought that's the time period we were talking about. When was this idea born?

Since the dawn of time....Or the empire anyway.
I've no idea exactly but I can remember reading something written around 1800 on someones vision of the perfect world.
The late 19th century was when it reached its peak of popularity of course but also when the time to lay the groundwork was passed.
 
That is quite possibly the case, but this could solve the South Africa problems as well, if loyal, Pro-British Canucks were encouraged to resettle in southern Africa.

Yep, just like they did in the Draka TL. Nothing can go wrong there! :rolleyes:
 
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