Alternate WWII Alliances

Ever heard of the Statute of Westminster? It removed British control over dominion legislatures, which de facto made the realms subject to the statute independent. What the British Parliament did in London had no relevance in Canada unless our Parliament consented. And Parliament was in no mood to go to war with the homicidal maniac we have next door. We would not be involved in this world war, simple as that.
 
Ever heard of the Statute of Westminster? It removed British control over dominion legislatures, which de facto made the realms subject to the statute independent. What the British Parliament did in London had no relevance in Canada unless our Parliament consented. And Parliament was in no mood to go to war with the homicidal maniac we have next door. We would not be involved in this world war, simple as that.

This. The Dominions are not bound by what London does. We weren't completely blind in this situation and I doubt Canada would get involved if the USA was getting gung-ho right on their border. I doubt even Britian or France would have gone to war in the first place. Germany is one thing, the USA is a whole different kettle of fish. You are ignoring to many butterflies, you need ot reign it in.
 
Ever heard of the Statute of Westminster? It removed British control over dominion legislatures, which de facto made the realms subject to the statute independent. What the British Parliament did in London had no relevance in Canada unless our Parliament consented. And Parliament was in no mood to go to war with the homicidal maniac we have next door. We would not be involved in this world war, simple as that.

And in that case, either they join the Axis or Dictator Sam invades them anyway.
 
And in that case, either they join the Axis or Dictator Sam invades them anyway.

Who is running the USA anyway? Because I can guarantee it's not FDR, or anybody from OTL because the USA joining the Axis in 1938 is completely far-fetched. Why would they invade neutral Canada? Just because?

OR am I to accept this as a purely accademic exercise? Because if that's the case I'll wade in. The Allies are fucked. You've combined the most populous country in Asia (China), with the most populous country in Europe (Nazi Germany) with the most populous and industrialized nation in the Americas (The USA). It's an Axis wank pure and simple.

If you wanted to make this a tad more interesting (ie a tad more balanced), I'd propose the following. Shift the USA and Japan over to the Allies, shift China the USSR and the South Americas over to the Axis. This is of course assuming we are ignoring politics and running on handwavium. Essentially your sides look like this.

The Axis Major Powers

The Soviet Union
Nazi Germany
The Republic of China
South American Powers
Italy
And others

The Allies

The British Empire
France
Japan
USA
And others

This presents a much more interesting war scenario from an academic perspective.
 
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Who is running the USA anyway? Because I can guarantee it's not FDR, or anybody from OTL because the USA joining the Axis in 1938 is completely far-fetched. Why would they invade neutral Canada? Just because?

OR am I to accept this as a purely accademic exercise? Because if that's the case I'll wade in. The Allies are fucked. You've combined the most populous country in Asia (China), with the most populous country in Europe (Nazi Germany) with the most populous and industrialized nation in the Americas (The USA). It's an Axis wank pure and simple.

If you wanted to make this a tad more interesting (ie a tad more balanced), I'd propose the following. Shift the USA and Japan over to the Allies, shift China the USSR and the South Americas over to the Axis. This is of course assuming we are ignoring politics and running on handwavium. Essentially your sides look like this.

The Axis Major Powers

The Soviet Union
Nazi Germany
The Republic of China
South American Powers
Italy
And others

The Allies

The British Empire
France
Japan
USA
And others

This presents a much more interesting war scenario from an academic perspective.

The USSR and Japan are heading their own alliances of satellites and puppets and the like. Neither is a part of the Allies or the Axis.

And how is Nazi Germany more populous than the Soviet Union? The Soviet Union had 190 million people back then, almost as many as the United States. That was how they beat the Nazis OTL despite vastly inferior tech - smothering them with bodies.
 
The USSR and Japan are heading their own alliances of satellites and puppets and the like. Neither is a part of the Allies or the Axis.

And how is Nazi Germany more populous than the Soviet Union? The Soviet Union had 190 million people back then, almost as many as the United States. That was how they beat the Nazis OTL despite vastly inferior tech - smothering them with bodies.

I should have said Western Europe, you are right. Well without the USSR, the Allies get even more stomped. It's Germany and her allies against France and Britain basically alone against the USA (Japn is going to be of no use) France won't last long on her own and soon it's just going to be Britain against the USA AND Germany. Even if Japan is distracting the US somewhat in the Pacific (if at all) the bulk of the US power is going to come down on Britain. It's really unbalanced, and is the reason I proposed alternate alliances. Otherwise it's just a Naziwank and an Ameriwank.
 
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I should have said Western Europe, you are right. Well without the USSR, the Allies get even more stomped. It's Germany and her allies against France and Britain basically alone against the USA (Japn is going to be of no use) France won't last long on her own and soon it's just going to be Britain against the USA AND Germany. Even if Japan is distracting the US somewhat in the Pacific (if at all) the bulk of the US power is going to come down on Britain. It's really unbalanced, and is the reason I proposed alternate alliances. Otherwise it's just a Naziwank and an Ameriwank.

Not quite. The Nazis and the Soviet Union are going to come to blows within two years. By that time, the war will be far from over.
 
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