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Sakura_F said:
Heider isn't exactly the same reactionary Austrian he was OTL... the Republicans moderated back some during his four-term presidency.
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I'm impressed he managed to win 1932 myself.

I have a feeling that the Democratic Party wouldn't even exist. They were doing badly in the 1920s after all.
 
Asami

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packmanwiscy said:
I was going to mention how that Heidler looked like a certain German leader until I made the connection...

But whats the exact POD for this?
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Prior to 1889, Alois Hitler and his family kick rocks to the United States, settling in New York. His son William is born there.
 
Callan

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Looking at the infoboxes, I realise it doesn't make sense for Heidler to beat Al Smith considering Heidler was New York Governor for much of the same period that Smith was OTL.
 
Zachanassian

Zachanassian

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Upton_Sinclair said:
There are third parties, of course, but the vast majority of people are either social democrats in the Progressive Party or socialists in the Socialist Party.
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So the Socialists are 'socialists in name only' like New Labour, while the Progressives represent the moderate centre-right, correct? ;)
 

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Zachanassian said:
So the Socialists are 'socialists in name only' like New Labour, while the Progressives represent the moderate centre-right, correct? ;)
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Nope. As spookyscaryskeletons pointed out, their leader is a Trotskyist IRL. The Socialists are legitimate Socialists, while the Progressives are social democrats. If you have people like Sawant and Chomsky leading the Socialist Party, they're not going to be Third Way at all (they are legitimate socialists), and people like Uygur leading the Progressives (the are social democrats), they're not going to be center-right, at least in OTL's political spectrum

A wank? Yes, it's more of me dreaming, though it does have a POD.
 
Utgard96

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Upton_Sinclair said:
The working POD is that there's a 3-way split in the Democrats in 1912, and LaFollete also goes for Debs in that election, Teddy's elected in that election, gradually the Socialists and Progressive become the two main political parties. And, yes, Sinclair is able to make America basically market socialist via his EPIC plan, after serving for nearly 36 years, He's the longest serving President ever, and he's idolized by the American public. He's also glorified to a near-godlike state by Socialists, along with Eugene Debs.
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Eugene Debs was an actual honest-to-God revolutionary socialist. Much as plenty of people on here seem to want him to be their Keir Hardie/Thorvald Stauning analogue, the fact is that's not overly realistic. And La Follette (a centre-left progressive Republican) endorsing Debs for president is just plainly ASB - while he did oppose Debs being prosecuted for opposing WWI IOTL, this is a long way away from meaning he shared Debs' political views outside opposing US entry into WWI. It does make some sense for the Progressives to win it at some point if the Democrats are split, but they'd be the left-wing party, not the right-wing one. A political system primarily divided between social democrats and actual socialists is impossible without some sort of ban on all liberal and conservative political organisations.

(And yes, I realise this probably wasn't meant to be entirely plausible, but I still can't go without saying this)
 
Xanthoc

Xanthoc

Here's my very first attempt at a wikibox. Hope it's not too bad. I did it on the 'Expansion War' from my TL, which was the conflict over the formerly French territory of Louisiana following the collapse of the French Empire, with Freedonia, the ASU and Britain, and the Spanish all laying claim to the entirety of the territory.

As for the territory names, Freedonia uses its own form of English spelling (based loosely on the concept behind the Franklin phonetic alphabet), and also combines that with 'Latinization' of words.

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Xanthoc said:
Here's my very first attempt at a wikibox. Hope it's not too bad. I did it on the 'Expansion War' from my TL, which was the conflict over the formerly French territory of Louisiana following the collapse of the French Empire, with Freedonia, the ASU and Britain, and the Spanish all laying claim to the entirety of the territory.

As for the territory names, Freedonia uses its own form of English spelling (based loosely on the concept behind the Franklin phonetic alphabet), and also combines that with 'Latinization' of words.
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Looks interesting. So I assume the proto-USA only encompassed the North and became Freedonia, while the British retained the South?
 
Xanthoc

Xanthoc

Superman said:
Looks interesting. So I assume the proto-USA only encompassed the North and became Freedonia, while the British retained the South?
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Basically. The colonies could not come to an agreement on slavery, and the colonies south of Virginia refused to sign any sort of document of unification without slavery. The other states figured that if they formed one country, and thus had each other's aid, the southern states would eventually join up after a few months of trying to deal with the British on their own. Instead, the remaining states decided to unify themselves into the American Southron Union. They form a sort of truce with the British, becoming what is essentially a Dominion (although they distance themselves over time, with the King eventually having no power within the country's politics by the time of the Expansion War), while the Freedonians fight on tooth and nail.

EDIT: Woops! Put it down as Vespuccian victory instead of Southron. The ASU doesn't become the Queendom of Vespuccia til several years after the war :p
 
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