Thanks, Patton I've always had a love for rugby, and it's fun to do something a little bit out of the norm for the thread (and like i told mikey time to learn more about the rugger, nerd).I don't even like rugby and I'm intrigued! Some of these flag choices... curious.
I usually use contemporary elections adjacent to the AH wikibox as a reference, then basically ask "how much, roughly, would turnout swing, would percentages swing, etc".How do people work out voting percentages and popular vote with elections?
totally! For instance, going by the Kiwi Laser Flag, this is very clearly the Best Timeline.I usually use contemporary elections adjacent to the AH wikibox as a reference, then basically ask "how much, roughly, would turnout swing, would percentages swing, etc".
Tbh the last 3 digits of my total vote numbers are almost always entirely made up, as we're talking like 0.001% differences here. Don't sweat what you put in the hundreds place.
It's a wonderful idea and I'd love to see what happens! For a POD, probably something to do with France. Russia was willing to defend the Union (thank you Cassius Clay), but Napoleon III was hesitant to support the Confederacy. I used the Siege of New Orleans as a not-turning-point, thus allowing France to feel much more confident in supporting the Confederacy.I would love to see a TL about the Civil War becoming an international conflict.
What would be the POD?
It's a wonderful idea and I'd love to see what happens! For a POD, probably something to do with France. Russia was willing to defend the Union (thank you Cassius Clay), but Napoleon III was hesitant to support the Confederacy. I used the Siege of New Orleans as a not-turning-point, thus allowing France to feel much more confident in supporting the Confederacy.
Russia and the US got along pretty well in the 19th century. Though the main reason was the idea to screw with Britain if they tried anything, which seemed a realistic possibility at the time.What did Muhammad Ali have to with Russia?
Just kidding.
What did Clay have to do with Russian diplomacy?
I wonder how Russia might've evolved if it fought alongisde America. Would Alexander II have pushed for democracy earlier, after seeing how mighty the American republic was?
Russia and the US got along pretty well in the 19th century. Though the main reason was the idea to screw with Britain if they tried anything, which seemed a realistic possibility at the time.
How the war starts would be important. The British and french people were understandably sympathetic to the union, especially as the war became clearly about slavery. If elites in those two nations push for war to protect the CSA, that could cause issues for their war effort.
Cassius Clay was the ambassador to Russia, and saw Alexander II's abolition of serfdom as an inspiration for the Union war effort, and was able to secure an alliance with Russia (including assistance in blockading the Atlantic) by drawing the comparison between abolishing serfdom in Russia and slavery in the USWhat did Clay have to do with Russian diplomacy?
I wonder how Russia might've evolved if it fought alongisde America. Would Alexander II have pushed for democracy earlier, after seeing how mighty the American republic was?
My original idea was that France intervened before the Emancipation Proclamation was written (and, although it was tighter than I anticipated, I did succeed in that regards), and thus the French could pass off the war as "about state's rights and economic independence" and tactfully avoid the slavery debate.How the war starts would be important. The British and french people were understandably sympathetic to the union, especially as the war became clearly about slavery. If elites in those two nations push for war to protect the CSA, that could cause issues for their war effort.
My original idea was that France intervened before the Emancipation Proclamation was written (and, although it was tighter than I anticipated, I did succeed in that regards), and thus the French could pass off the war as "about state's rights and economic independence" and tactfully avoid the slavery debate.
Yep! Agree 100%, the August Crisis is Napoleon III's regime collapsing.I have a feeling that if Napoleon did forcefully intervene in this war and lost, it could mean the collapse of his regime.
He would not only lost the war, but the French would be angry for having fought to protect a slaveowner society and a puppet Mexican regime.
Oh boy, this would have major knockoff effects on a lot of stuff, like the German reunification.
Just France intervening is still probably an american win. Especially if France is in mexico still at the time, and thus distracted.
France really needs Britain to join them, which is what they wanted IOTL before even considering intervening.
I love this one, @LeftsideLock
it's fantastic work
I especially love all the little ATL details, like the antiquated transliterations and a united Korea and Vietnam
Thanks, Gryph - I tried to include some small things like that in this other boxes and their write-ups, and I'm glad it added something to it for you.It's been talked about occasionally in other threads, and really this whole thread concept is based around it- having something that looks exactly like an OTL reference work but isn't is delightfully jarring, conceptually- and things like the united Korea on the map really drive that home; it's a very tiny detail and easy to miss but just kind of pushes it a notch upward.
Alright, lord caedus, thanks for telling me. Sorry about that. Duly noted for future quotes.If you quote someone, you don't need to tag them in the post itself.
The default setting is that users are alerted when someone quotes a post of theirs, so unless they are in the incredibly small amount of users that disable that feature, they will already be alerted to your post even without you tagging them.