Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes VI (Do Not Post Current Politics or Political Figures Here)

Status
Not open for further replies.
joe steele.png

My own take on a Joe Steele Presidency
 
PRESIDENT- ELECT GOLDWATER PROMISES "SWIFT END" TO THE VIETNAM CONFLICT
Chicago Tribune, November 9, 1964

"IN YOUR GUTS YOU KNOW HE'S NUTS" INSIDE GOLDWATER'S PLAN TO END THE VIETNAMESE WAR, HIROSHIMA STYLE
Opinion piece by Retired Admiral and United States Senator Chester A. Nimitz

"FMR PRESIDENT IKE EXPRESSES "FULL CONFIDENCE" IN UPCOMING GOLDWATER ADMIN."
New York Times, January 5, 1965

GOLDWATER TO TAP CURTIS LEMAY FOR SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
December 21, 1964

"...It is with a heavy heart that I have authorized a strategic nuclear strike on the Vietnamese capitol city of Hanoi. I do this having exhausted all possible avenues for peace with the Vietnamese people. I urge them to look into themselves and ask, is such hellfire like this really worth it? Can you not simply lay down your arms and join your brothers in South Vietnam under free rule, under Diem's benevolent guidance? I had given North Vietnam plenty of patience and time in Paris to negotiate a peaceful end to this war. It is them that have refused all avenues of peace. I regret the lives lost, but I pray that the Vietnamese government, having seen our ultimate expression of military power, will come to the sensible and rationale decision to end this war. Not just for American lives, but for those of the Vietnamese people, who have suffered greatly in the bombing of Hanoi."

Special Address from the Oval Office from Barry Morris Goldwater, dated August 16, 1968.

"In all honesty, it's the worst nightmare of any Military Official, having to plan for the evacuation of a major U.S. City in the event of a nuclear strike. America hasn't been invaded or attacked in any meaningful method in over a hundred years, so when, instead of a surrender document, the Vietnamese puff out their chests and proclaim they'll "launch the big one", You start to worry. Of course, we all were worried back then, but... no one really thought he had been mad enough to nuke Vietnam in the first place, and they were wrong then. No one thought Washington D.C. would be under a mushroom cloud. We were right about D.C.... however, we second guessed ourselves in inspecting South Vietnamese refugees coming in through California... and a few weeks later, we understood Vietnam's answer... It cost around fifteen thousand to thirty thousand San Franciscans unfortunately, for Washington and LeMay to learn that lesson."

Former Undersecretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld during his interview with the BBC, taped on January 7, 1972 and aired August 28, 1975 on the ten year remembrance of the atomic bombing of San Francisco.

ptw3CDD.png
 
Kim_Googe_Wiki.png


Kim Bethany Googe (nee Ahlstrom) is the incumbent United States Secretary of State. A career diplomat and politician, she has spent her life ducking in and out of the executive branch. While at Georgetown she would intern at the White House, leaving to persue her MPA at Brown and working at various international bussinesses and think tanks before once again joining the executive as a junior white house staffer then working for the State Department in various small positions before being premoted to an Under Secretary under the Vandermark administration. However she would leave again in 2011 upon Kirk Silverberg's announcement he would not run for re-election in Googe's native congressional seat. The fact that Vandermark was facing several scandals and gloomy re-election prospects certainly made the decicion easier. In the house she maintained a decent profile and a progressive record focussing mainly on foreign affairs.

Upon return of Democrats to the White House under the Kershaw banenr in 2020 Googe's name became frequently mentioned for various foriegn policy positons ranging from Secretary of State to National Security Advisor. While the nod for State would go to Senator Morgan Renner of Maine, she was nominated to be UN Ambassador. This did lead to some grumbling among the progressive and women's lobby, but this chagrin would be shortlived as Renner would be forced to resign from his seat after suffering a deliberating stroke while in London on a goodwill mission to Nigeria. Renner agreed to stay on till his replacement was named and quickly the top names for the job became Googe and Deputy Secretary Steve Oubre. However Googe quickly emerged as the frontrunner with Renner himself reportedly reccomeneding she take the job to President Kershaw.

As Secretary of State Googe first major event was traveling to Canada for the inaugruation of Canada's first female PM, Marilyn Lalonde in early August. She has seem to taken to the roll naturally, and has recieved modest acclaim in her two months on the job.

Posts from the Same Universe (GenAm)
2016 Washington Senate Election
 
To Kindle a Fire: No Henry Clay

1817-1825: James Monroe (Jeffersonian)
VP: Daniel D. Tompkins (1817-1821), Vacant (1821-1825)
Def. 1820:
John Q. Adams/John Tod (Jeffersonian)

Missouri statehood was very contentious, and the OTL compromise failed to pass before the 1820 election. Northerners blamed Monroe's lack of support and run John Quincy Adams against him. The splinter Jeffersonians came very close, but Pennsylvania narrowly handed Monroe a second term. The compromise eventually passed narrowly, but not before threats of secession and warnings of civil war left the nation deeply divided, and the stress killed Vice-President Tompkins. The seeds of an Era of Good Feelings that had been planted in Monroe's first term never bore fruit, and instead the nation threatened to come apart at the seems.

1825-1831: Smith Thompson* (Nationalist)
VP:
John C. Calhoun
Def. 1824: Nathaniel Macon/Martin Van Buren (Old Republican), Andrew Jackson/John C. Calhoun (Democratic)
Def. 1828: George Troup/Hugh L. White (Democratic)
Adams declined a second run, leaving Navy Secretary Smith Thompson to take up the mantle of the North His presidency was turbulent, dominated by his efforts to fund infrastructure and the Militia Crisis with Georgia. Thompson's refusal to condone a treaty between Georgia and the Muscogee Indians led to Governor Troup calling up the state militia, while Thompson urged Congress to provide troops to suppress the insurrection. Ultimately, Troup backed down, but southern resentment only grew. Thompson, despite losing some of his southern allies, won a second term. His second term saw tension with South Carolina over a proposed tariff increase, and South Carolina, joined by Georgia, passed laws nullifying the tariff. Georgia also passed laws targeting the Cherokee Indians, aiming to seize their lands. Thompson reacted swiftly to the two crises, calling for a second force bill and urging the Supreme Court to protect the Cherokee from encroachment. The Court ruled in the Cherokee's favor, but the President was forced to accept Calhoun's mediation in peacefully settling the tariff dispute. Things seemed to finally be settling down, when the President was assassinated by a penniless former gold prospector from Georgia...


1831-1833: John C. Calhoun (Nationalist)
VP: Vacant

Southerners were hopeful that native son Calhoun would pursue a less centralist policy than his slain predecessor, but these hopes were dashed. Calhoun moved quickly to consolidate power, taking the oath of office and declaring himself President, angering conservative southerners who expected him to simply become Acting-President. Calhoun also refused a law slashing the tariff, imploring his fellow southerners to understand that some level of tariff was needed to keep the government solvent. However, he also didn't endear himself to northerners, his ardent support of slavery and calls to annex Texas angering the increasingly anti-slavery north. Even so, he declared his intent to run for a full term early on, but predictably lost.

1833-1841: Thomas Hart Benton (Democratic)
VP: Henry A. P. Muhlenberg
Def. 1832: Richard Rush/Nathan Sanford (Nationalist), Langdon Cheves/Jesse B. Thomas (Republican) John C. Calhoun/None (Nationalist)
Def. 1836: John W. Taylor/William Sprague III (Nationalist), Joseph Ritner/Solomon Southwick (Anti-Masonic), George McDuffie/Hugh L. White (Republican)

Benton represented a new kind of politics, directly linked to Andrew Jackson's strong third place in 1824. He stood for the people, and against the elites and the bank. His presidency was dominated by the intransigence of the Confederalists, who subscribed to the theory of nullification, and his efforts to end the National Bank. The latter was unsuccessful, though Benton did manage to weaken it in favor of private, state banks. He also passed laws facilitating the settlement of the west, but failed to either annex Texas or settle the Oregon dispute. He was also forced to grapple with a slave revolt in Virginia, where in 1834, a slave named Nat Turner led a rebellion that killed nearly 200 whites before local militias ruthlessly suppressed the uprising. In the north, talk of the slave uprising was quickly dominated by the brutality of the reprisals, and the Nationalists became increasingly divided between moderates and abolitionists. The emergence of the Anti-Masonic party and the election of the abolitionist minister Barton Stone as Governor of Kentucky in 1836 only heightened this divide. The twin questions of slavery and national identity dominated Benton's turbulent presidency, but he presided over a mostly strong economy, leaving office just four months after a severe economic crisis began.

1841-1845: John Sergeant (Nationalist)
VP: Thurlow Weed
Def. 1840: William Carroll/Martin Van Buren (Democratic), Robert Y. Hayne/John Rowan (Republican)

Sergeant was nominated as a result of the electoral fusion between abolitionist Nationalists and Anti-Masonics, and the joint ticket ran on not only economic nationalism, but opposition to the expansion of slavery. Unfortunately, the Sergeant/Weed ticket narrowly defeated William Carroll just in time for the Panic of 1840. Despite a bankruptcy relief bill and other measures to alleviate private debt, the economy failed to improve fast enough. The controversy over Texas and Oregon only added to his unpopularity, and Sergeant was defeated for a second term. Despite losing office, the Nationalist-Anti-Masonic alliance endured...

1845-1849: Abel P. Upshur (Republican)
VP: James Buchanan
Def. 1844: Martin Van Buren/James Buchanan (Democratic), John Sergeant/Thurlow Weed (Nationalist)

Upshur, a former ally of Benton and ardent expansionist, abandoned the Democrats over Benton's reluctance to pursue expansion. Joining the Republicans, Upshur ran on a platform of tariff reduction, small government, and territorial expansion, cutting into the Democrats' northern support. The ensuing deadlocked race was decided by an agreement with Martin Van Buren: Upshur would become President, and Van Buren's running mate James Buchanan would ascend to the vice presidency, along with a number of Democrats joining the cabinet. The new administration functioned rather well, given that it contained both Democrats and Republicans. Upshur successfully circumvented the treaty system by annexing Texas via joint resolution, and then instigated war with Mexico. The war was a decisive American victory, and Upshur was able to annex not only Texas, but much of northern Mexico as well. The ensuing debate over the Oregon border (which Upshur settled at the 49th Parallel) and the Mexican Cession threw the government into turmoil, however. Anti-slavery Democrats and Nationalists joined forces to ban slavery in the new territories, and this bill passed the House and Senate. Upshur vetoed the bill, demanding that funding for purchasing the land from Mexico place no restrictions on slavery below the Missouri Compromise line. A hasty compromise was assembled by John Crittenden, carving out California, Utah, and Sonora as free territory and banning slavery in the rest. However, Upshur's veto enraged the north, who saw it as a naked attempt to expand slavery.

1849-1853: Zachary Taylor (Independent Nationalist)
VP: William O. Butler
Def. 1848: Joseph Smith/Abraham Lincoln (Nationalist), Sam Houston/William O. Butler (Democratic)
Taylor was the second President in a row elected via contingent election, winning over southern moderates to defeat Joseph Smith, a businessman, Methodist leader, and staunch abolitionist. Taylor governed effectively as an independent, with only the support of the dwindling conservative Nationalists and moderate Republicans. Statehood was granted for the free states of Oregon and California and the slave states of Pacifica and New Mexico. He supported the efforts of Stephen Douglass and Lewis Cass to hold votes in Kansas, Utah, and Sonora over the status of slavery, but this embrace of popular sovereignty only resulted in intense bloodshed, while men like John Brown and Robert Rhett began openly advocating slave rebellion on one hand and secession on the other. By the time Taylor retired in 1853,the west was plunged into terrible bloodshed, where men like John Brown cut their teeth. It was clear that the frayed Union was on the brink of dissolution, and all that was needed was a spark.

1853-1857: David Wilmot (Free Democratic)

VP: Jed Colbath
Def. 1852: Jefferson Davis/Samuel Cox (Republican-Democratic), Willie P. Mangum/Thomas Corwin (Nationalist)
Wilmot ran with a Nationalist, the abolitionist Jed Colbath of Massachusetts, in an alliance of the various free soil factions in northern politics. He was elected on a platform of stopping slavery's growth, which inevitably led to conflict. Shortly after his inauguration, much of the south seceded, and the nation was plunged into civil war. Wilmot was regarded as an able wartime commander at first, but his elevation of fellow Democrat John C. Fremont to command of Union forces in Tennessee resulted in a series of humiliating defeats that resulted in a Union withdrawal to Bowling Green. Despite advances in Missouri, the failure of Union forces to capture Richmond or New Orleans hurt morale. However, the south was forced to fight an internal war, as John Brown went south with stores of weapons to foment a slave rebellion. His rebellion grew from a feeble militia into a fearsome army that occupied much of South Carolina and secured the support of the long-suffering Cherokee in Georgia. This was contrasted in the abolitionist press to Wilmot's rather inept leadership. As the 1856 election approached and the war dragged on, many voters hoped for a change, a change who could finally win the war and "overturn the mighty king..."

1857-0000: John Brown (Freedom)
VP: Charles Sumner
Def. 1856: David Wilmot/Salmon P. Chase (Free Democratic), William L. Marcy/Franklin Pierce (Peace)
Building off of some stuff from my test thread:
Screenshot 2022-08-29 at 23-12-59 Creating User MountainHawkMan_sandbox - Wikipedia(1).png
John Brown Wikibox.png
 
Last edited:
CSAPRES1.png

CSAPRES2.png

* Douglas Wilder is one of, if not the most, controversial of our Presidents. During the Constitutionalist domination of the 90s and early 2000s the election of 1999 was thought to be an easier task than it really was, Clinton was a very popular man at the time and finding a worthy successor was difficult as the guy Clinton backed was Wilder. Wilder was the last person anyone would've chosen, racially and politically he was not seen favorably but Clinton was adamant about it famously saying; "It will change us for the better." The Constitutionalists had to pull every trick, give every favor, and practically bend over backwards for even the slimmest chance to get Douglas Wilder elected to office, though while they did succeed in a narrow victory historians site this as the end of their dominance in Confederate politics.

* The death of Strom Thurmond is seen as the tipping point for Confederate politics. Despite his death happening as he was about to leave office, the effects it had on the political scene boosted the popularity of the militant, and sometimes seen as semi-fascistic, Dixie Dignity Party. The Dixie Party was quick to point at the African American community as the blame for his death, as well as saying that the Confederacy lost its way. They are responsible for having a racial separation till 1988, the crackdown on Cuban nationalism, involvement in Belgian Congo, and the funding of local state and town militias. Its's theorized that if Thurmond lived on that the party would remain a rather small force throughout the 50s and 60s or even have died off, some 'Alternative History' Media outlets posited that if Thurmond survived Segregation could've ended earlier than '88!

Some Confederate Presidents for my timeline The Rebel Flag.
 
In 1944 it was apparent to the Grand Old Men of the Democratic Party that Franklin Roosevelt was dying. Not wanting his liberal Vice President Henry Wallace to succeed him, the Party pushed him to find a replacement. James Byrnes was an intimate of Roosevelt, a Congressman turned Senator turned War Planner. His Southerness, relative conservatism, and conversion from Catholicism made him suspect in Northern Circles, but after allegations about the machine connections of Senator Truman he became the convention's choice.

As predicted, Roosevelt died, and Byrnes became the New President. He would lead America to victory, defeating g Hitler and then dropping the atom bombs on Japan. At Potsdam he assured Attlee and Stalin the United States would remain vigorously engaged in foreign policy.

But all was not well on the domestic front. Labor unrest spread as the Wartime truce on strikes ended. A brief but sharp recession occured as well, all while the end of price controls sent inflation through the roof. Republicans would seize both houses of Congress for the first time since the Depression in 1946.

Meanwhile Byrnes was infuriating the left flank of the Democratic Party. His increasingly anti-Soviet foreign policy. His rolling back of the already meager civil rights ideas of the prior administration. His failure to press for expansions to the New Deal. And Labor roared as he signed the Taft-Hartley Act into law, permanently hogtying the Unions.

Nonetheless, many still thought the President might have a chance, when the Republicans nominated Robert Taft. Taft was even more conservative than Byrnes, talking of rolling back the New Deal. And Taft was seen as dangerously isolationist by many, despite a moderate, New England running mate.

Wallace was little better on the Foreign Policy front, although he was less opposed to aid going to Europe. But his string of progressive policy proposals. being the only candidate with a good record on the emerging Civil Rights issue, and, above all, the support of Labor gave him momentum aplenty. Even some moderate Republicans were forced to admit his appeal.

Byrnes rightly focused on foreign policy as his plank, and tried to shore up his Northern flank with a New England VP Candidate. but his rather aloof style was not super helpful in the race. Wallace never really had a shot, but was drawing far more from the Democrats than he was any Republican. Liberals in the north sometimes held their noses and voted for Byrnes, held their noses and voted for Wallace, or stayed home. Meanwhile the Conservatives rallied for their man Taft.

In the end, it wasn’t particularly close.

View attachment 769187
Taft/Saltonstall is a solid ticket. I used it for a compromise ticket following a divisive primary between incumbent Earl Warren and Mr. Republican himself.
 
A conclusion to my "Great Clusterfuck of 1924" series. for now
The Great Clusterfuck of 1924
The Happy Warrior of 1928
The Great Reformer of 1932
THE PROGRESSIVE POPULIST OF 1936 and THE POPULIST PROGRESSIVE OF 1940
President Robert M. La Follette Jr, or "Young Rob" as most knew him, had his work cut out for him. Defeating the Democrats with a Progressive plataform, the young Republican soon learned that his party was not fully engaged with his policies. His "Fair Deal" policies were seen as far too radical by the backbone of the Republican Party as well as many across the isle, and as his first year in the White House came to pass, he grew more certain that something had to give. Slowly Young Rob begun making phonecalls. Reaching out to those disaffected with the system, be they his partisans or his opposition. His weekly Radio chats with the nation increased the President popularity and helped make the youngest man to ever hold the office into one of the most relatable. It was in one of these "sunday chats" that Rob made an announcement that shocked the nation. He was leaving the Republican Party, alongside a score of Progressive Republicans. And that was not all, many Democrats would be deffecting their ranks as well, and banding together with the Republicans to form a new Party. At the command of this coalition was La Follette himself, of course, and the southern Louisiana Governor Huey Long. By combining the Progressive Movement of the Midwest with the populist rethoric of the South the couple would build a new ideology. Progressive Populism. The abandoned Democrats and Republicans soon realized that they would be bette off facing this incoming storm together. And so they did. And just like that, a new party system had been born.
1661908980335.jpeg
1661908993083.jpeg

1661909019233.jpeg
1661909041299.jpeg
1661909053817.jpeg

1661909197717.png


1661909333781.png
 
Last edited:
A conclusion to my "Great Clusterfuck of 1924" series. for now
The Great Clusterfuck of 1924
The Happy Warrior of 1928
The Great Reformer of 1932
THE PROGRESSIVE POPULIST OF 1936 and THE POPULIST PROGRESSIVE OF 1940
President Robert M. La Follette Jr, or "Young Rob" as most knew him, had his work cut out for him. Defeating the Democrats with a Progressive plataform, the young Republican soon learned that his party was not fully engaged with his policies. His "Fair Deal" policies were seen as far too radical by the backbone of the Republican Party as well as many across the isle, and as his first year in the White House came to pass, he grew more certain that something had to give. Slowly Young Rob begun making phonecalls. Reaching out to those disaffected with the system, be they his partisans or his opposition. His weekly Radio chats with the nation increased the President popularity and helped make the youngest man to ever hold the office into one of the most relatable. It was in one of these "sunday chats" that Rob made an announcement that shocked the nation. He was leaving the Republican Party, alongside a score of Progressive Republicans. And that was not all, many Democrats would be deffecting their ranks as well, and banding together with the Republicans to form a new Party. At the command of this coalition was La Follette himself, of course, and the southern Louisiana Governor Huey Long. By combining the Progressive Movement of the Midwest with the populist rethoric of the South the couple would build a new ideology. Progressive Populism. The abandoned Democrats and Republicans soon realized that they would be bette off facing this incoming storm together. And so they did. And just like that, a new party system had been born.
View attachment 770716View attachment 770717

View attachment 770718
View attachment 770719View attachment 770720
The 1936 election wikibox says Republican Democratic instead of Democratic-Republican.
 

Here's an infobox is a two for one in the casting. First off, much like my first Grown Ups movie infobox I made nearly two years ago, Chris Farley survives his drug overdose in 1997 and continues on making and being in movies. Second, Rob Schneider comes back to reprise his role as Rob Hilliard (in OTL, he was unable to due to scheduling conflicts with his TV series Rob and because his wife Patricia was pregnant). He replaces Nick Swardson's character Nick the bus driver.

Grown Ups 2 part 1.png

Grown Ups 2 part 2.png

The rest of the cast is the same as OTL.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top