Jackson being wounded at either new Orleans or perhaps in Florida with the wound making him a bit more frail like Hancock could do the trick
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The 1960 United States presidential election was the 44th quadrennial presidential election. It was held on Tuesday, November 8, 1960. Incumbent Vice President Richard Nixon of the Republican Party defeated Democratic U.S Senator John F. Kennedy. In a highly contested election, Nixon would win 321 electoral college votes to Kennedy‘s 201 electoral votes. Kennedy, however, would narrowly defeat Nixon in the popular vote by merely 8,890 votes, a margin of 0.2 percent.
Nixon would run a liberal, pro civil rights campaign, alongside his running mate Nelson Rockefeller. Mainly campaigning in the Midwest and Northeast, Nixon was able to attract many voters in many crucial states, such as, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan. To the disappointment of many, Nixon declined to do a televised debate with Kennedy, following Eisenhower’s advice. Nelson Rockefeller was a great boon to the Republican campaign, galvanizing the liberal Republican vote, especially in his home state of New York.
In a world where Britain somehow avoids ceding East Florida to Spain after the American War of Independence...
Like Canada, the conquest of East Florida was seen as a goal of the War Hawks leading up to the Anglo-American War. It received much less attention as it was smaller and less valuable than Canada, or Spanish West Florida for that matter. Only a small garrison held St. Augustine, with loyalists and slaves making up the rest of the population engaged in running skirmishes with the local Seminoles. It was assumed Florida would fall easily, just as it was assumed Canada would fall easily.
During the early years nothing more than light skirmishing occurred along the border, as Americans were more focused on dealing the with the Creek Wars than invading Florida. For their part the British and Floridans mostly contented themselves with smuggling weapons to the Creek. However in 1814 Andrew Jackson had achieved victory over the Creeks and imposed harsh terms. Newly commissioned into the American Army, Jackson pushed for an immediate conquest of East Florida. The force that invaded was mostly Southern Militiamen, although here were a few regular troops and Native guides.
The defenders of Florida were badly outnumbered, and weakened by a measles outbreak. The tiny force of British regulars under Hew Dalrymple remained mostly preoccupied with holding the fort at St. Augustine’s harbor. Only a few British soldiers, including Dalrymple himself, joined James Matthews and the Colonial Militia (a force that included several slaves and free blacks) in making a stand at the St. Johns River to halt Jackson’s advance on St. Augustine.
However the Floridans had a secret weapon, a small force of Seminoles, under the command of King Payne, the most powerful chief in Florida at the time. Payne had actually come to the area looking to see what he could raid from the British when they distracted. But his band, like many Seminole groups, had a large contingent of Creek Natives who had fled South. Upon hearing that the hated Andrew Jackson was leading the invasion, the Creek contingent convinced King Payne to join the fight against the Americans.
The defenders were still outnumbered, but the British held a firm line, while the Americans had trouble navigating the terrain and found their forces scattered throughout the battlefield. Seminole forces were able to disrupt American communication and attempts to link up with each other. Dalrymple had also managed to secure superior cannon, further scattering the American line. The coup de Grace came when a group of Seminole Warriors managed to ambush and kill Jackson, which prompted a general American retreat. The fall on night allowed the rest of the Americans to flee, but Florida remained outside of their control. The rest of the war saw light skirmishing on the border, but no further attempts of a major invasion, as other battles took precedence for both the Americans and British.
The Battle of St. John’s River is an important milestone in Floridan history. It preserved the independence of the nation from American encroachment, reinforcing Florida’s status as “a loyal colony” in line with Canada. The role of the Seminoles, although largely accidental, would be held up as reason for their integration into the Floridan identity. The British would be fighting the Seminoles before long, and eventually they would be forced South en masse. The modern Floridan identity of being white, black, and Seminole can in part be traced back to the Battle of St. John’s River.
Like Canada, the conquest of East Florida was seen as a goal of the War Hawks leading up to the Anglo-American War. It received much less attention as it was smaller and less valuable than Canada, or Spanish West Florida for that matter. Only a small garrison held St. Augustine, with loyalists and slaves making up the rest of the population engaged in running skirmishes with the local Seminoles. It was assumed Florida would fall easily, just as it was assumed Canada would fall easily.
During the early years nothing more than light skirmishing occurred along the border, as Americans were more focused on dealing the with the Creek Wars than invading Florida. For their part the British and Floridans mostly contented themselves with smuggling weapons to the Creek. However in 1814 Andrew Jackson had achieved victory over the Creeks and imposed harsh terms. Newly commissioned into the American Army, Jackson pushed for an immediate conquest of East Florida. The force that invaded was mostly Southern Militiamen, although here were a few regular troops and Native guides.
The defenders of Florida were badly outnumbered, and weakened by a measles outbreak. The tiny force of British regulars under Hew Dalrymple remained mostly preoccupied with holding the fort at St. Augustine’s harbor. Only a few British soldiers, including Dalrymple himself, joined James Matthews and the Colonial Militia (a force that included several slaves and free blacks) in making a stand at the St. Johns River to halt Jackson’s advance on St. Augustine.
However the Floridans had a secret weapon, a small force of Seminoles, under the command of King Payne, the most powerful chief in Florida at the time. Payne had actually come to the area looking to see what he could raid from the British when they distracted. But his band, like many Seminole groups, had a large contingent of Creek Natives who had fled South. Upon hearing that the hated Andrew Jackson was leading the invasion, the Creek contingent convinced King Payne to join the fight against the Americans.
The defenders were still outnumbered, but the British held a firm line, while the Americans had trouble navigating the terrain and found their forces scattered throughout the battlefield. Seminole forces were able to disrupt American communication and attempts to link up with each other. Dalrymple had also managed to secure superior cannon, further scattering the American line. The coup de Grace came when a group of Seminole Warriors managed to ambush and kill Jackson, which prompted a general American retreat. The fall on night allowed the rest of the Americans to flee, but Florida remained outside of their control. The rest of the war saw light skirmishing on the border, but no further attempts of a major invasion, as other battles took precedence for both the Americans and British.
The Battle of St. John’s River is an important milestone in Floridan history. It preserved the independence of the nation from American encroachment, reinforcing Florida’s status as “a loyal colony” in line with Canada. The role of the Seminoles, although largely accidental, would be held up as reason for their integration into the Floridan identity. The British would be fighting the Seminoles before long, and eventually they would be forced South en masse. The modern Floridan identity of being white, black, and Seminole can in part be traced back to the Battle of St. John’s River.
I don't want to sound like a smartass, but could you guys defy the term "grave dancing" for me?
I know it means to literally dance on someone's grave site, but I'm not getting what you guys mean by using the term in your comments talking to James Gordon Brown about his Pedro Orochi infobox post.
Grave dancing is rubbing in someone's kick or ban, I think the feeling is that once they're out of the thread that's the end of it
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Alright, that makes sense. Thanks guys!
I tell ya, I definingly won't be doing that sort of crap if someone gets kicked/banned from the site. I might talk about why said user got kicked/banned, but I'm not gonna gravedance and make a whole show about it.
The Orange and Green really clash. I would advise Red, Yellow and Blue, since those are the colors most news networks have used for elections historically.
Plus Debris - Part Four
By 1991, the Soviet Union was finished. It's leadership did not know that at the time, and Mikhail Gorbachev instead set on with creating a new constitution for the Union. It took some influences from the manifestos the famous dissident Andrei Sakharov published over 1989 and 1990, even as Sakharov and many other dissidents and liberals inside the Communist Party were losing faith in Gorbachev, who increasingly acquiesced to the demands of conservative figures in government with violent crackdowns on dissent.
But by the summer of 1991, after the passing of the New Union Treaty, it was clear to the hardliners in the Communist Party that without an aggressive crackdown on dissent and and a rollback of the freedoms re-established over the past few years, the Soviet Union and the Communist project was dead. The liberalisations of the Gorbachev era had done little but further empower democratic and nationalist movements across the Soviet Union, and they had swept legislative elections in the Soviet legislatures the previous year. Unconvinced that their leader would do the necessary emergency measures, elements of the armed forces, security services and the cabinet conspired to take matters into their own hands.
Coming back from a summit in Washington with President Biden, the conspirators sprung into action. The Soviet President was held under house arrest as soon as he made it to his summer Dacha by the Crimean Sea, his Vice President was detained in Moscow and Premier Pavlov announced that he was taking charge on national television, as thousands of troops streamed into Moscow. But things stopped going to plan after that.
Western leaders uniformly denounced the coup, and the loyalty and effectiveness of the soldiers enforcing it soon collapsed. This collapse of legitimacy only further increased when it emerged that Mikhail Gorbachev had been killed.
The most commonly accepted story, the only accepted by the official enquiry, is that an irate Gorbachev confronted one of the troops detaining him, and that this confrontation escalated until this jittery soldier accidentally discharged his weapon into the deposed head of state. It is hard however not to be suspicious of some sort of cover-up, and many senior politicians in Moscow have to this day openly suggested that he was deliberately killed on the orders of the coup leaders.
When the news of Gorbachev's death reached Moscow, things escalated. Skirmishes broke out in the streets, panicked soldiers fired into crowds. A fortnight into the coup, which was now collapsing, Andrei Sakharov returned to the capital. He had fled at the start of the coup, having been tipped off about his imminent arrest, and now the image of the elderly professor standing in front of an abandoned Red Army tank was beamed across the world. The coup was finished, and so was the regime it had sought to save.
After the coup collapsed, Vice President Nazarbayev was sworn in as the legitimate President of the Soviet Union. It by this stage was a hollow crown. Ukraine, and the Baltic States swiftly declared independence and other Soviet Republics soon followed. Across the Union, Soviet legislatures quickly moved to curtail and marginalise the powers and responsibilities of the Union and the Communist Party. President Nazarbayev himself appeared to be more interested in securing his own wealth and consolidating power in his native Kazakhstan than trying to save his own party.
In this environment, furious negotiations were in progress to determine the leadership of what was left of the Soviet Union. The New Union Treaty initially called for a strong Prime Minister to lead the Russian Republic but as the Union itself was currently in the full throes of collapse it became apparent that something stronger was needed and the post of President was soon established. Over summer there were further negotiations as to the role and powers such a president would have, but these debates were settled by the time it was established that elections for the post of President of the Russian Republic (soon to be Federation) would take place in November.
Andrei Sakharov, a national and international hero following the collapse of the coup, was the obvious candidate the post. While he had been heavily involved in the post-coup constitutional negotiations over the future of Russia (the presidency becoming more powerful than he had initially favoured) he was reluctant to stand for office himself, conscious of his advanced age and weak health. But he soon came to recognise that he had far more legitimacy for the post than perhaps anyone else in the country, and feared that leaders less committed to democracy might step into his place if he chose not to run.
The election campaign was mostly free and relatively calm. Sakharov did not campaign heavily, making speeches that largely focused on his vision for Russia: constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms, open government, a proper welfare state and dignity above all else. Sakarov's criticism of Nursultan Nazarbayev's continued half-hearted authoritarianism only earned him more votes at the time but brought him perilously close to arrest and detainment. The main "regime" candidate, if it could be called that, was former Gorbachev ally Vadim Bakatin, who ran a similarly subdued campaign that spoke of the need for socialism going forward into the 20th century. The suspiciously well-funded campaign of former Olympic wrestler Yury Vlasov gained some international attention for his previous celebrity and his tendency towards conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitism and generally outrageous behavior, frequently challenging his opponents to tests of physical prowess. In the face of these and other less credible opponents, there was little doubt as to the final result.
On New Year's Day of 1992, Nursultan Nazarbayev handed over the nuclear codes to newly inaugurated President Sakharov, and flew home to Astana, whose legislature had near-unanimously elected him President. The Soviet Union had been formally dissolved the day previously. A new era had begun.
By 1991, the Soviet Union was finished. It's leadership did not know that at the time, and Mikhail Gorbachev instead set on with creating a new constitution for the Union. It took some influences from the manifestos the famous dissident Andrei Sakharov published over 1989 and 1990, even as Sakharov and many other dissidents and liberals inside the Communist Party were losing faith in Gorbachev, who increasingly acquiesced to the demands of conservative figures in government with violent crackdowns on dissent.
But by the summer of 1991, after the passing of the New Union Treaty, it was clear to the hardliners in the Communist Party that without an aggressive crackdown on dissent and and a rollback of the freedoms re-established over the past few years, the Soviet Union and the Communist project was dead. The liberalisations of the Gorbachev era had done little but further empower democratic and nationalist movements across the Soviet Union, and they had swept legislative elections in the Soviet legislatures the previous year. Unconvinced that their leader would do the necessary emergency measures, elements of the armed forces, security services and the cabinet conspired to take matters into their own hands.
Coming back from a summit in Washington with President Biden, the conspirators sprung into action. The Soviet President was held under house arrest as soon as he made it to his summer Dacha by the Crimean Sea, his Vice President was detained in Moscow and Premier Pavlov announced that he was taking charge on national television, as thousands of troops streamed into Moscow. But things stopped going to plan after that.
Western leaders uniformly denounced the coup, and the loyalty and effectiveness of the soldiers enforcing it soon collapsed. This collapse of legitimacy only further increased when it emerged that Mikhail Gorbachev had been killed.
The most commonly accepted story, the only accepted by the official enquiry, is that an irate Gorbachev confronted one of the troops detaining him, and that this confrontation escalated until this jittery soldier accidentally discharged his weapon into the deposed head of state. It is hard however not to be suspicious of some sort of cover-up, and many senior politicians in Moscow have to this day openly suggested that he was deliberately killed on the orders of the coup leaders.
When the news of Gorbachev's death reached Moscow, things escalated. Skirmishes broke out in the streets, panicked soldiers fired into crowds. A fortnight into the coup, which was now collapsing, Andrei Sakharov returned to the capital. He had fled at the start of the coup, having been tipped off about his imminent arrest, and now the image of the elderly professor standing in front of an abandoned Red Army tank was beamed across the world. The coup was finished, and so was the regime it had sought to save.
After the coup collapsed, Vice President Nazarbayev was sworn in as the legitimate President of the Soviet Union. It by this stage was a hollow crown. Ukraine, and the Baltic States swiftly declared independence and other Soviet Republics soon followed. Across the Union, Soviet legislatures quickly moved to curtail and marginalise the powers and responsibilities of the Union and the Communist Party. President Nazarbayev himself appeared to be more interested in securing his own wealth and consolidating power in his native Kazakhstan than trying to save his own party.
In this environment, furious negotiations were in progress to determine the leadership of what was left of the Soviet Union. The New Union Treaty initially called for a strong Prime Minister to lead the Russian Republic but as the Union itself was currently in the full throes of collapse it became apparent that something stronger was needed and the post of President was soon established. Over summer there were further negotiations as to the role and powers such a president would have, but these debates were settled by the time it was established that elections for the post of President of the Russian Republic (soon to be Federation) would take place in November.
Andrei Sakharov, a national and international hero following the collapse of the coup, was the obvious candidate the post. While he had been heavily involved in the post-coup constitutional negotiations over the future of Russia (the presidency becoming more powerful than he had initially favoured) he was reluctant to stand for office himself, conscious of his advanced age and weak health. But he soon came to recognise that he had far more legitimacy for the post than perhaps anyone else in the country, and feared that leaders less committed to democracy might step into his place if he chose not to run.
The election campaign was mostly free and relatively calm. Sakharov did not campaign heavily, making speeches that largely focused on his vision for Russia: constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms, open government, a proper welfare state and dignity above all else. Sakarov's criticism of Nursultan Nazarbayev's continued half-hearted authoritarianism only earned him more votes at the time but brought him perilously close to arrest and detainment. The main "regime" candidate, if it could be called that, was former Gorbachev ally Vadim Bakatin, who ran a similarly subdued campaign that spoke of the need for socialism going forward into the 20th century. The suspiciously well-funded campaign of former Olympic wrestler Yury Vlasov gained some international attention for his previous celebrity and his tendency towards conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitism and generally outrageous behavior, frequently challenging his opponents to tests of physical prowess. In the face of these and other less credible opponents, there was little doubt as to the final result.
On New Year's Day of 1992, Nursultan Nazarbayev handed over the nuclear codes to newly inaugurated President Sakharov, and flew home to Astana, whose legislature had near-unanimously elected him President. The Soviet Union had been formally dissolved the day previously. A new era had begun.
More wikiboxe from my Decembrist Victory TL - this time about events in Americas
Same wolrd as these:
Europe in 1840
First Russian Republic
Alexander, prince-consort of the UK
Second French Republic
August V of Poland, Konstantin Fredrik I of Finland, Friedrich Eugen of Livonia
The Jewish Republic
List of presidents of the Jewish Republic
Andrew Jackson term as President of the United States was mostly defined by the conflict with Mexico over California. It started in 1827, when Provisional Government of Russia sell Russian American colonies – Alaska and Fort Ross – to the USA (Ryleyev never see Russian America as part of the Russian Republic, and Russian Civil War troubles gave additional arguments in favor of Alaska Purchase). Mexican Government did not recognize purchase of Fort Ross to America and sent troops to occupy that settlement. The end was predictable – in 1829 new USA President Jackson declares war to Mexico.
But war goes much more difficult, than Jackson expect. Yes, US Army could beat Mexico out of Fort Ross (later renamed Kearny after the general, who took the city). American settlers in the eastern part of the Mexican Province of Tejas rebelled and create the Fredonia Republic. But American attempts to took Mexico City and finally crash Mexico failed, and the war end by not so great victory as planned. USA annex Fredonia (OTL Eastern Texas), New Albion (OTL Northern California) and northern parts of so-called New Mexico. But it was to little for many Americans.
Andrew Jackson faced with the great opposition during the next Election in 1832. His main opponent was William Clark, former Governor of Missouri and Superintendent of Indian Affairs. Clark opposed war and Jackson methods of war, and fail of the attempt to took Mexico growth his rating a lot. Clark became the Republican party candidate in 1832 election, and could won the elections and change Jackson at the POTUS post.
Same wolrd as these:
Europe in 1840
First Russian Republic
Alexander, prince-consort of the UK
Second French Republic
August V of Poland, Konstantin Fredrik I of Finland, Friedrich Eugen of Livonia
The Jewish Republic
List of presidents of the Jewish Republic
Andrew Jackson term as President of the United States was mostly defined by the conflict with Mexico over California. It started in 1827, when Provisional Government of Russia sell Russian American colonies – Alaska and Fort Ross – to the USA (Ryleyev never see Russian America as part of the Russian Republic, and Russian Civil War troubles gave additional arguments in favor of Alaska Purchase). Mexican Government did not recognize purchase of Fort Ross to America and sent troops to occupy that settlement. The end was predictable – in 1829 new USA President Jackson declares war to Mexico.
But war goes much more difficult, than Jackson expect. Yes, US Army could beat Mexico out of Fort Ross (later renamed Kearny after the general, who took the city). American settlers in the eastern part of the Mexican Province of Tejas rebelled and create the Fredonia Republic. But American attempts to took Mexico City and finally crash Mexico failed, and the war end by not so great victory as planned. USA annex Fredonia (OTL Eastern Texas), New Albion (OTL Northern California) and northern parts of so-called New Mexico. But it was to little for many Americans.
Andrew Jackson faced with the great opposition during the next Election in 1832. His main opponent was William Clark, former Governor of Missouri and Superintendent of Indian Affairs. Clark opposed war and Jackson methods of war, and fail of the attempt to took Mexico growth his rating a lot. Clark became the Republican party candidate in 1832 election, and could won the elections and change Jackson at the POTUS post.
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The Years of Lead
The Years of Lead
Act 3
There wasn't much that could passably be called opposition by 1976. LaRouche's Department of Internal Secretary was not kind to the Communists or the Conservatives, and especially not to any of his opponents for the Vice Presidency. Hayakawa was disinterested in managing the nexus of patronage and policy that hooked together the Party of National Development, and instinctually shoveled responsibility away from himself. Local PND offices were firebombed, safehouses were raided, leftist theoreticians were executed for television, and the motors of the monstrous engine of graft trundled on. McGovern ran on a respectable platform of civil liberties, term limits, and Washingtonian integrity, and so was stage-managed by the DIS from beginning to end. Furious write-ins for Gus Hall, executed 1971, snapped up the remainder of the vote.Act 3
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Hunter S. Thompson was McGovern's VP? I honestly wanna know what his campaign speeches would be like.
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