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[Raziel27n]

Spain's attempt to conquer the Floridas in the late 1780s from the U.S. would end badly for Spain as the U.S. rallied up following the surprise attack on Mobile. The war would launch the popularity of Secretary of State John Jay who was able to acquire Spanish Louisiana at the negotiating table and Admiral John Paul Jones following his series of victories in Nassau
Pensacola and New Orleans. John Jay would be elected in 1796 to succeed President George Washington as the 2nd President of the United States with Thomas Jefferson, a Democratic-Republican, would be his Vice President resulting in a change in the constitution to allow the Electoral College to select both the president and vice president. President John Jay would quickly lose that popularity buy signing the Jay Treaty with the UK seemingly giving them more favorable trade and the Franco-American War with John Jay hoping to expand America's borders succeeding in the capture of Port-au-Prince and Hispaniola as a whole. This would not resonate well with most of the populace especially the Quebecois voting solidly against him in favor for war hero of the American Revolution, the Spanish-American War and the Franco American John Paul Jones and his vice president John Laurens. President Jones would get rid of the Jay Treaty and purchase the rest of French territory in the Americas from Napoleon. He would also keep President Jay's Secretary of State Alexander Hamilton who would continue the policy of sending propaganda and material aid to sponsor pro-american uprisings in the Spanish Colonies. He would also continue the Washington era expansion of the U.S. Navy following the Spanish American War. With American support for the French in the Napoleonic Wars increasing the British decided to try to discourage them joining by attacking their navy base in Norfolk, Virginia to destroy the American Navy, unknown to them most of them had been in the Bahamas training for landings on similar geography in the case of a war involving the territory in South America. This would start the Great American War, John Paul Jones would launch a series of landings in South America to support the pro-american rebels while the brunt of their forces invaded New Spain. The war would come to and end in 1813 resulting in the indepenence of all the European territory in the Americas or annexation by the U.S., Jones would not be able to establish this new relationship between the U.S. and the rest of the Americas for he would die of Interstitial nephritis though not constitutional law at the time his vice president John Laurens would take the oath of office. Leading America into a new age.
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An 18th century Pearl Harbor Analogue, nice

 

[AJustMonster]

Neither were born in America.

People who were residents at the time of the Constitution's ratification were exempt from that rule.

 

[big-click]

Forgot I made these a few months ago - the most unusual two elections in The American Quest. The full story is over there in that thread, but the specific context for these is a three-way split within a dominant, isolationist, classically liberal Republican Party after the sitting president resigns mid-term. Sixties shenanigans in excess of OTL are followed by the establishment lining up behind one of America's few unsoiled politicians, who pushes through necessary reforms but at a great cost.

 

[Riley Uhr]

I assume she would draw inspiration from the previous communist governments in Brazil and the Pacific in this timeline

Speaking of Which

Thank you to HOI4 for giving me this idea

Basically, the Communists win the NZ election of 1938 after a rejection of the British Empire and not even a year later after becoming government the Communists declare themselves the sole legal party and establish the Peoples Republic of New Zealand. Living conditions during communist control were bad and only after Elsie Farrelly died and along with it the only reason Communism was still being supported Sandra Lee Vercoe became Premier and the Republic of New Zealand was established on the 28th of September 2002 finally after India and Brazil dropped communism the ideology was mostly dead.

 

[VenusUberAlles]

 

[Spens1]

Speaking of Which
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Thank you to HOI4 for giving me this idea

Basically, the Communists win the NZ election of 1938 after a rejection of the British Empire and not even a year later after becoming government the Communists declare themselves the sole legal party and establish the Peoples Republic of New Zealand. Living conditions during communist control were bad and only after Elsie Farrelly died and along with it the only reason Communism was still being supported Sandra Lee Vercoe became Premier and the Republic of New Zealand was established on the 28th of September 2002 finally after India and Brazil dropped communism the ideology was mostly dead.

so NZ literally becomes our Cuba?

 

[KuboCaskett]

For my Metal Slug TL (long story sure) of which involves the Cold War dies an early death to pave the way for a global "superstate" (hence the dates):

 

[Charlie950]

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I def want context for this

 

[jpj1421]

Hamilton was a citizen when the Constitution was ratified.

People who were residents at the time of the Constitution's ratification were exempt from that rule.

One would think Albert Gallatin, born in Switzerland, being considered for Vice President as late as 1824 would remind people that the natural born citizen clause only kicked in for people coming after the Constitution was ratified.

 

[Riley Uhr]

so NZ literally becomes our Cuba?

Yep

 

[VenusUberAlles]

I def want context for this

This is part of my "America sort of wins the war of 1812" timeline. Haven't decided on a good name yet. Basically what happens is the US manages to take Toronto and Ottawa which they use as bargaining chips to secure the entire Oregon territory. This completely breaks the balance of slave owning and non slave owning states, so as compensation the US annexes far more of Mexico than they otherwise would. Unfortunately for the US, this area has far more Mexicans than the rest of the Mexican cession. The US government is forced to station military forces to secure these territories. This leads to the creation of a more authoritarian, imperialistic and militaristic US than what would exist in OTL. Combine this with the South maintaining their pre-Civil war racism, an even worse Great Depression and the US backing the Central Powers in WW1 economically (they still get beaten) and you get a US that shares more than just a few beliefs and sympathies with the Fascist powers. Due to the butterfly effect, Trotsky defeats Stalin and becomes the leader of the USSR. Trotsky, unlike Stalin, believes the USSR should focus on spreading Communism globally, so during the interwar years the USSR funds communist groups in European colonies which the European powers can no longer afford to hold on to because of an even worse Great Depression and a longer World War 1.

World War 2 starts with the USSR invading Poland in 1939, which results in the German Reich fighting alongside the USA against the forces of Communism. Germany chooses to support China in the pacific, as supporting Japan would destroy their alliance with the USA, so the Pacific War happens the same as OTL, except China puts up more of a fight. After the fall of Moscow to a combined American and German assault, both powers agree to force the Soviets to surrender by nuking two major cities. The USA nukes Vladivostok from an occupied Japan and Germany nukes Sverdlovsk from occupied Russia.

This is just a brief overview of my timeline. I am thinking of creating a thread for it once I work out some things with the Civil War.

 

[fashbasher]

Age of Civs material. Brief descriptions of each:

Feral Hinduism is a Hindu-colored equivalent of the Amish and the Thai Forest Tradition that originated among the marginal classes of the Indo-Caribbean community as well as among Western yogis. Many adopted jungle survival skills from the nearby Maroon communities, and some African influence exists.

Austronesian Revivalism originates from the pockets of Javanese and Filipinos found in the West Indies (Suriname and the more affluent Anglo islands respectively) as well as from surfers in Costa Rica and Panama as well as historical ties between Puerto Rico and Hawaii. It's generally tolerant of religious diversity but strongly embraces geographic expansion.

Feudal Socialism is just what it sounds like. Instead of a hereditary lord, it's a feudal structure in which the serfs can impeach their lord or elect a new one if he fails to provide sufficient services relative to the taxes that he levies. Feudal socialism is most common in rural and frontier areas where the state is weak.

Caribbean Fascism is an ironic twist on the insult "fascism" that redefines it as an ideology based around a shared, utopian ideal that - while not achievable in the near term - is the target of common struggle. Caribbean fascism is based on the common values of the Caribbean rim - environmental protection, social and religious conservatism, and openness towards immigrants and tourists - and was informed by the rise of China as well as Raul Castro's reforms and the policies of his successor.

 

[lord caedus]

Now that the Vikings lost yet another NFC championship, I was inspired to go back to the "X-in-Canada" verse. Don't worry, though. Only one sports box...kinda.

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The 105th Grey Cup was a Canadian football game played on November 26, 2017 to determine the champion of the Canadian Football League (CFL). Held at TCF Bank Field in Minneapolis, Minnesota, the game pitted the reigning champion Calgary Stampeders of the West Division against the hometown Minnesota Vikings of the East Division. Both teams had led their division in the regular season, with Minnesota compiling a league-best 15 regular-season wins while Calgary won 13 games and registered one tie (with the Ottawa Redblacks). Similarly, both teams had won narrow victories to make it to the cup, with Calgary beating the Edmonton Eskimos 32-28 in the West Division Championship while Minnesota edged out the Winnipeg Blue Bombers 24-23 to win the East Division Championship.

Led by veteran quarterback Joe Mauer, the Vikings were favored to win, owing in part to Mauer's statistical dominance over Stampeders quarterback Brock Osweiler. An eventful first half included an 109-yard fumble return by Vikings defensive back Trae Waynes, which set the record for longest play in Grey Cup history, and ended with the Stampeders holding a narrow 17-14 lead. The second half, on the other hand, saw a marked decrease in scoring, with only one touchdown (Calgary) and one field goal (Minnesota) being scored, and cementing the Stampeders' victory over the Vikings. Osweiler, who completed 33 out of 45 passes for 373 yards, including two touchdown passes and one interception, was named the game's Most Valuable Player.

The Stampeders became the first team to repeat as Grey Cup champions since the Montreal Alouettes in 2009/2010. This cup marked the first (and so far only) Grey Cup that current Governor-General Julie Payette presided over the coin toss. Shania Twain performed at the halftime show, marking her second Grey Cup performance (the first was in 2002).

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Sir Leonard Wood was a senior Canadian military officer who fought in both the Second Boer War, and most famously, the First World War. Before embarking on a military career, Wood graduated medical school at McGill University and a licensed physician, and joined the Canadian Militia as a surgeon in 1886. Wood served as personal physician to the Earl of Aberdeen during his term as the country's governor-general (1893-1898) and, afterwards, took part in Canada's first dispatch of troops to an overseas war in the Second Boer War. Wood saw action at Paardeberg and Liliefontein and, controversially, became one of the staunchest Canadian defenders of the British scorched-earth tactics against the Boers, including commanding expeditions to burn Boer farms and intern civilians in concentration camps.

Between his return to Canada and the outbreak of the First World War, Wood's career was stalled by his outspoken support for conscription, and disagreement with the prime minister for most of that time, Wilfrid Laurier, over Canada's relationship with Britain (with Wood favoring more British involvement in Canadian affairs than Laurier was willing to grant). Passed over for command of the militia shortly before the war's outbreak, he arrived in Europe in 1915 and assumed command of the 1st Canadian Division in September 1915 after seeing action at Ypres. Brigadier General Wood commanded the 1st for nearly two years, including during at the Somme and Vimy Ridge. Following Sir Julian Byng (the future Governor-General)'s promotion to full general in the British Army, Wood replaced him as overall head of the Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF), being promoted to lieutenant-general and knighted by King George V. Sir Leonard would lead the CEF for the remainder of the war, and through Hill 70, Passchendaele and the Hundred Days Offensive, where he and his troops helped cement the CEF's reputation as one of the toughest and effective military forces on the Western Front. Military historians view Wood as a mediocre strategist and tactician, and inferior compared to his subordinate and successor as 1st Division commander, Sir Arthur Currie. However, Wood's willingness to put himself into the same dangerous positions as many of the soldiers under his command and effective logistical abilities have been praised.

Returning home in 1919, Wood was named Chief of the General Staff. Intending to institute reforms he felt were overdue now that the military had returned from Europe, he ran into entrenched military bureaucracy and massive cuts to military spending. Unhappy, Wood was persuaded by friends to retire from the military in 1921 to stand for Parliament. Despite his heroic status, Wood's serious, self-righteous personality combined with vague and unconvincing stands on the issues of the day resulted in him losing his first (and only) bid for elected office. The former general spent the remainder of his life being named to various government commissions and business boards until his death in the American city of Boston following a failed surgery to remove a re-occurring brain tumor.

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SixNinetyFive (695)(formerly SixFiftySeven) is a website that focuses on opinion poll analytics, politics, economic and sports blogging. The website, which takes its name from the number of MPs in the Canadian House of Commons, was founded as a polling aggregate website by analyst Nate Silver in 2008. Silver, using his experience in sabermetrics (empirical statistical analysis of baseball), created a unique methodology of analyzing polling data, including weighing of polling agencies themselves. Silver and his site became a common name in Canadian politics when he managed to call over 95% of the races in the 2008 federal election correctly. Following the 2008 federal election, the site expanded to include a French-language section under Éric Grenier and both language sites began to run articles, mostly using or analyzing statistical data, on Canadian political and social issues. In 2010, the site became a licensed feature of The Globe and Mail online before being bought by The Sports Network (TSN) in 2013, after which the site began to run varied analyses on subjects outside of politics, such as culture, economics and sports. Following the increase in size of the House of Commons in 2015, the site and business was renamed SixNinetyFive.

The site is famous for its election predictions, and topped all other political forecasters in the three federal elections (2008, 2011, 2015) since it was founded. SixNinetyFive has also been cited as a major factor in the increasing awareness and adaptation of sabermetric principles to both ice hockey and Canadian football since the late 2000s. SixNinetyFive has won numerous awards for its election reporting, most of them during the period before its purchase by TSN.

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Spoiler: Notes

• TCF Bank Field is an ATL stadium that was built instead of the Metrodome in the "Minnesota-in-Canada" sub-series.
• Osweiler is a native of Montana (although he was born IOTL Idaho), so he would be a Canadian player ITTL, not (currently) with the NFL's Denver Broncos.
• That supposedly is Minneapolis' skyline in the Grey Cup logo.
• Wood attended Harvard IOTL, not McGill.
• Wood's actions in South Africa are a parallel to his OTL actions as governor-general of the Philippines.
• The part about Wood's willingness to put himself into danger draws from his OTL conduct as a young officer that resulted in him getting awarded the Medal of Honor.
• Grenier apparently was inspired by Silver's work IOTL and so it's probably nice for him that Michigan native Nate Bronze is a Canadian ITTL so they can analyze riding data together.

X-in-Canada
Minnesota
Dakota
Alaska
Wisconsin
Maine
Oregon
Montana
New Hampshire
Michigan
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Bhutan (joke)
Hawaii (non-canon)
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Canadian federal election, 2015; Next Canadian federal election
Senate of Canada; Prime Ministers of Canada
United States presidential elections, 1876 and 1880
Robert La Follette Sr.; United States presidential elections, 1924 and 1968
George McGovern; Gerald Ford; United States presidential elections, 1972 and 1976
United States presidential elections, 1984; Dick Cheney; Sarah Palin
Mitt Romney; United States presidential elections, 2012; Three River Highway
Joe Mauer; JJ Watt; Grey Cup winners
Ben Carson; Republican Party presidential primaries, 2016; United States presidential elections, 2016
Sitting Bull; Ted Bundy; Charlottetown Accord referendum
Jerome Bettis; Chief Representative for the First Nations (Maine); Mesabi—Superior
Vermont Party; Speaker of the House of Commons of Canada; B-17 Flying Fortress
Jim Mattis; Betsy DeVos; John Conyers
2008 Detroit Lions season; Hope Solo; John Randle
Canadian German; Larry Fitzgerald; Yellowstone National Park
Alaska Provincial Police; Flint trilogy; Supreme Court of Canada
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List of United States Presidents & Vice Presidents
List of Prime Ministers of Canada, Governors-General of Canada and federal party leaders

 

[Riley Uhr]

SixNinetyFive (695)(formerly SixFiftySeven) is a website that focuses on opinion poll analytics, politics, economic and sports blogging. The website, which takes its name from the number of MPs in the Canadian House of Commons, was founded as a polling aggregate website by analyst Nate Silver in 2008. Silver, using his experience in sabermetrics (empirical statistical analysis of baseball), created a unique methodology of analyzing polling data, including weighing of polling agencies themselves. Silver and his site became a common name in Canadian politics when he managed to call over 95% of the races in the 2008 federal election correctly. Following the 2008 federal election, the site expanded to include a French-language section under Éric Grenier and both language sites began to run articles, mostly using or analyzing statistical data, on Canadian political and social issues. In 2010, the site became a licensed feature of The Globe and Mail online before being bought by The Sports Network (TSN) in 2013, after which the site began to run varied analyses on subjects outside of politics, such as culture, economics and sports. Following the increase in size of the House of Commons in 2015, the site and business was renamed SixNinetyFive.

The site is famous for its election predictions, and topped all other political forecasters in the three federal elections (2008, 2011, 2015) since it was founded. SixNinetyFive has also been cited as a major factor in the increasing awareness and adaptation of sabermetric principles to both ice hockey and Canadian football since the late 2000s. SixNinetyFive has won numerous awards for its election reporting, most of them during the period before its purchase by TSN.

I can only imagine that website.

 

[emk163]

Ha Surmer lost. Wait. Brock Oswiler?

 

[Gonzo]

snip

You've probably already dealt with him, but what happened to Gene McCarthy ITTL?

 

[gap80]

Triffid

The triffid is the genus of 11 to 14 species of aggressive carnivorous plants, all colloquially known as simply “triffids.” The name (established during the 1940s) refers to the plant's three leg-like stumps; the name originally was “trifid,” meaning “split into three parts” in Latin. These species are naturally found on every continent (including Antarctica) except Europe (until introduction of the Asian variety in the early 1950s). The genus belongs to the family Sarraceniaceae, and are distant relatives to the Venus fly trap, the cleome, and the chromolaena odorata plant of South Africa. The triffid has become a vital source of alternative fuel since the late 1990s.

Triffids originated in Africa, then Indonesia, before spread among the warmer regions of the planet. During its reproductive cycle, the triffid releases thousands of seeds into the air, most of which are carried by wind to farther-away regions, where only some manage to take root before local animals can consume them. This form of distribution could explain their presence across most of the world.

Due to the dangers of approaching a triffid – certain species can eject poisonous gas even hours after death – Soviet biologist Trofim Lysenko was the first person to produce an in-depth study of the plant. During the 1930s, Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin ordered Lysenko to study the species in the hopes it could be controlled and ultimately used as a weapon for the Soviet Army. Lysenko’s 1948 report is still heavily relied on when studying the Asian Triffid species today.

History
The origin of the triffid species has been disputed, but it is currently believed that the triffid species of central Africa – specifically, the Democratic Republic of the Congo – is the earliest form of the triffid. Mainstream scientists have rejected the notion that the triffid is of extraterrestrial origin, and have affirmed that the plant is indeed a naturally occurring species. Triffids were traditionally exterminated, albeit to high human casualties at times, upon discovery by European explorers to Asia and the Middle East, until the thirteenth century. During that century, Europeans learned how to utilize the natural oils of the African Triffid variety for textile dye. While the existence of triffids in the Americas was confirmed in the eighteenth century, large Asian Triffids first came to the attention of Europe and western society in general in 1926, when Umberto Christoforo Palanguez presented the Arctic & European Fish Oil Company with an unusual new vegetable oil being developed in Siberia. After Palanguez’s disappearance in 1931, a sounder of triffids was discovered in South America in 1938, confirming recent reports of “forest demons.” In 2010, frozen triffid seeds of as-yet-undetermined age were discovered in a frozen glacial lake in Antarctica.

Locations
Triffids typically grow in equatorial regions, and they develop quickly in tropical zones. The average full-grown triffid is 7 feet, but certain varieties can grow to be much taller. While triffid seeds a can be carried by wind, fully-grown triffids can travel on and across water via large floating mats of debris and vegetation. As Triffids require meat and photosynthesis to live, they can become more aggressive in areas devoid of direct sunlight as it forces them to increase their nutritional intake. In North America, standard triffids have developed a form of echolocation; swamp-dwelling triffids in the American South are fully aquatic, and a small number of giant triffids (triffidus megaliodorata) exist around the Finger Lakes region of New York state. Studies have revealed that, owing to their constant exposure to small doses of triffid venom in their air, water and food, a quarter of the inhabitants of regions where triffids perennially live are immune to triffid venom.

Uses
The plant is considered highly valuable due to its unique attributes. Its natural oils, when burned and mixed with other natural compounds, produces a long-lasting energy source that has since been utilized for cooking, heating, transportation, and other uses. Upon discovery in the fourteenth century that docking the stingers of the plants render them harmless, docked triffids soon become fashionable, and as it takes triffids two years to fully regrow their stingers, captive triffids are safe if pruned annually. Triffid farms are built to produce triffid oil, which is of greater quality when taken from undocked specimens. Triffids in the British Isles are highly valued as energy and food sources. For the oil’s extraction, triffids are sedated and housed closely together, which has created some controversy in recent years involving Plant Rights groups. The venom of the triffid has been used in various poisons and gases for centuries. The plant’s flexibility and mobility to attack prey have also lead to some more wealthy individuals attempting to use them to guard property.

Appearance and Habits
According to the novel, the fictitious triffid can be divided into three components: base, trunk, and head (which contains a venomous sting). European triffids never exceed 8 feet (2.4 m), while there have been confirmed sightings of wild triffids exceeding a height of 10 feet. The record-highest height reached by a triffid occurred in Arizona, where a triffid with a growth disorder reach a staggering height of 60 feet before being destroyed by the US military before it could devastate a small Arizonan community. The base of a triffid is a large muscle-like root mass, comprising three blunt appendages. When dormant, these appendages draw nutrients like how a normal plant does. When active, triffids use these appendages to propel themselves around. The top segment of the triffid consists of a stem in a funnel-like formation containing a sticky substance which traps insects, similar to its pitcher plant and fly trap relatives. Also housed within the funnel is a stinger which, when fully extended, can measure almost 10 feet in length. When attacking, a triffid will lash the sting at its target, primarily aiming for its prey's face or head, with considerable speed and force. Contact with bare skin can kill a human instantly if given enough force. Once its prey has been stung and killed, a triffid will often root itself beside the body and feed on it as it decomposes; only in a few cases has a triffid attacked for reasons unrelated to either hunger or self-defense.

Depictions in popular culture
The hostile nature of the Triffid is often exaggerated in popular culture. Native cultural groups in Africa, the Americas, and Australia all mention the triffid in folk tales, warning children not to explore the wild unsupervised. Public awareness of the dangers of the triffid increased after World War Two, with a major contribution to this rise being John Wyndham’s 1951 novel The Day of the Triffids. The novel concerns the breakdown of human civilization after most of the world’s population is blinded by a meteor shower, leading to triffids killing people. A radio dramatization of the novel was made in 1957, followed by a film version in 1962. The 1962 version cast the African triffid variety – which have gas-propelled projectile stingers instead of coiled tendrils – as the story’s antagonists; the film was also criticized by the scientific community at-large for suggesting triffids were extraterrestrial in nature. The BBC produced a TV series more faithful to the 1951 novel in 1981. Another TV series based on the 1951 novel was produced in 2009, this time focusing on the African triffid variety.

(note: some sentences taken directly from the OTL triffid wiki article)

 

[lord caedus]

I can only imagine that website.

Just imagine 538 but with more hockey and statistical analysis of the times "sorry/pardon" was used in the House of Commons lobby.

You've probably already dealt with him, but what happened to Gene McCarthy ITTL?

He was a cabinet minister under Humphrey who resigned shortly after the October Crisis in protest of of Humphrey's invocation of the War Measures Act.

From there, his career is essentially "Paul Hellyer but on his meds": he left the Liberals after Trudeau replaced Humphrey and sat as an independent, after he lost re-election in 1972, he tried to run numerous times under his own party label (Social Action) before retiring after getting creamed in his attempt to win re-election to Parliament in 1993.

 

[Dutch_Atlantic_13]

Something that I made sometime I got back from the Biltmore Estate (and out of boredom).

 

[Nazi Space Spy]

Just imagine 538 but with more hockey and statistical analysis of the times "sorry/pardon" was used in the House of Commons lobby.



He was a cabinet minister under Humphrey who resigned shortly after the October Crisis in protest of of Humphrey's invocation of the War Measures Act.

From there, his career is essentially "Paul Hellyer but on his meds": he left the Liberals after Trudeau replaced Humphrey and sat as an independent, after he lost re-election in 1972, he tried to run numerous times under his own party label (Social Action) before retiring after getting creamed in his attempt to win re-election to Parliament in 1993.

I'd be curious to see where the career of Scoop Jackson went. I'd imagine he'd be in the Humphrey Ministry as well?