Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes V (Do Not Post Current Politics Here)

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No, it doesn't.
The user in question was correcting a niche misconception about Ross Perot that just HAPPENED to involve Pat Buchanan. Not only does it not count as current politics, it wasn't even technically discussion, just a response to a mistake. If you're going to call PAT BUCHANAN of all people as current politics I'm sorry but there is no way you're not doing this just to flex your mod status.
I agree. If Pat Buchanan of all people could be described as current politics, then in theory a point of divergence as early as 1978 could technically fall within CP territory as Bill Clinton was already politically active then. In fact, perhaps between one quarter and one half of what we have here and the AH presidential lists would fall under CP territory.

And as a side note: Chat should have been split into an Alternate History: Post-2000/Current Politics forum for AH scenarios (perhaps including CP/ASB scenarios if needed) and an actual CP discussion forum for political discourse. It helps narrowing down political chatting threads.
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The effort spent by people arguing whether a discussion should be in Chat, even if their argument is correct (which I honestly believe it is), far outstrips the amount of effort required to just move the discussion to Chat.
The effort spent by people arguing whether a discussion should be in Chat, even if their argument is correct (which I honestly believe it is), far outstrips the amount of effort required to just move the discussion to Chat.
Yeah imo they should just move it to chat since it's quite annoying to see political arguments in the wikibox thread
Another teaser from my upcoming TL. I didn't bother with a collage since his reign was rather uneventful, largely due to his death from cholera less than a decade in

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Yeah imo they should just move it to chat since it's quite annoying to see political arguments in the wikibox thread
We have an infobox thread in chat. The purposes of these two infobox threads are different: one for political/near-past/near-future infoboxes (e.g. Hillary Clinton elected in 2016), the other for infoboxes that indicate wildly different worlds (e.g. the previous post).
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We have an infobox thread in chat. The purposes of these two infobox threads are different: one for political/near-past/near-future infoboxes (e.g. Hillary Clinton elected in 2016), the other for infoboxes that indicate wildly different worlds (e.g. the previous post).
I know. However, the argument was getting irritating imo
From my crossover timeline:
Zombie outbreaks are, unfortunately, not a rarity in history. A myriad of strains have appeared over the years ranging from the famous undead sorts created by the Nazis' Trioxin and the Umbrella Corporation's T-virus to the demonically-driven Deadites, Crossed and Meideros' syndrome infectees to the quick-paced mutant undead that resulted from the Rage virus and the Green Flu. There were even a few instances of sentient, non-malevolent undead emerging-the 'dead generation' and the 'domesticated' inhabitants of Zombietown being the most famous. Zombie outbreaks have had a range of impacts. In some cases, such as the London outbreak of 2003, the 2006 Willamette outbreak, the 2019 Pleasant Valley outbreak and the 1968 Midwestern outbreak were contained relatively quickly with low casualties. Other outbreaks had ebbs and flows in containment-for instance the 1983 Louisville outbreak worsened after the city was destroyed with a nuclear weapon, inadvertently contaminating the countryside. Still others produced nationwide or near-nationwide apocalypses-the South Hun Chiu outbreak of 2016 and the Japan outbreak of 2023 being the most notable pre-Great War instances of this. Post-Great War, of course, zombie outbreaks got far, far worse, culminating in the bulk of what had been the southern US ending up contaminated by a heavily modified strain of Trioxin.

However, almost all zombie viruses (as opposed to the ones resulting from demonic possession or alien parasites) can trace their origins to a natural virus known as Solanum. Those infected with Solanum must be bitten by a Solanum-infected zombie and not have damage taken to the head prior to the conclusion of a 24-hour incubation period. Slight natural mutations over the years were documented (such as the 'dreadfuls' that plagued Britain in the early 19th century), but overall pre-World War II accounts of zombie outbreaks fit the standard mold of Solanum. Solanum outbreaks are known to have plagued the Romans and 8th century Byzantium along with other ancient civilizations. Paleontologists have found evidence indicating Solanum may have originated as a mutated strain of a virus carried by woolly mammoths that passed over to humans in the Stone Age, though this has not been confirmed. Still, overall, pre-Second World War zombie outbreaks are clearly identifiable as either Solanum strain outbreaks or the result of demonic/occult influences.

The Joseon outbreak of the 16th century stands apart from these other examples, however, as accounts of the outbreak indicate the undead were certainly not demonic, but differed greatly from the standard Solanum infectees. Accounts are sparse owing to the efforts of the Joseon Dynasty to hide the outbreak from history, but was has been gathered is the outbreak originated due to the use of a certain herb in efforts to revive the dead. These methods were not unheard of (the legendary Utnapishtim plant was often-sought by numerous societies in the Middle East for instance and the alchemists' Philosopher's stone can be considered in line with this tradition), but in this case, use of this herb evidently resulted in those who were given it developing a cannibalistic hunger. However, while this was similar to most Solanum infectees, in other respects the undead who plagued Joseon differed greatly. Most notably, they were wary of heat and during the warmer months of the year would hide during the day, only attacking the living at night (though during the winter this would change). This has led to some theorizing the Joseon outbreak was not a zombie outbreak at all, but rather a 'low-bloodline' vampire'outbreak like the kind that devastated Barrow or Jerusalem's Lot. However, the depiction of the undead in the Joseon outbreak differs greatly from low-bloodline vampire outbreaks as the undead ate the flesh of the living (while not unheard of for vampires to do so, it is rather rare). Another theorized possibility is the Joseon outbreak was a result of one vampire strain mixing with Solanum and then becoming more widespread. If so, it would predate the 2011 'vambie' outbreak by more than 4 centuries.

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Mitch Landrieu
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Mitchell Joseph Landrieu
(/ˈlændruː/ LAN-droo; born August 16, 1960) is the 39th and current president of the Federated States of Dixie, first election in 2018. He is the first francophone to be elected president. Landrieu is the son of former Dixie House of Delegates Majority Leader Moon Landrieu and is the brother of Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu.

A Unionist, Landrieu entered politics in 1988 when he was elected to the Louisiana House of Delegates, replacing his sister who retired to successfully run for Treasurer of Louisiana that year. He served 4 terms in the Louisiana House until he was elected as Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana in 2000 and served under Parti La Louisiane Governor Kathleen Blanco for two terms. In his 2006 reelection campaign for Lt. Governor, Landrieu won the nomination of the PLL as well as the Unionist Party and won that election without any major party challengers.

In 2012, Landrieu ran for governor to replace the term-limited Blanco. Landrieu once again won the nominations of both the Unionists and the PLL; this is the first time a gubernatorial candidate won the nominations of both parties. In the general election, Landrieu faced National Party nominee Louisiana State Delegate Eric Skrmetta. Landrieu easily defeated the poorly funded Skrmetta winning every parish in Louisiana except for Crawford Parish, Skrmetta's home parish. Landrieu won the governorship by a larger margin than anybody since the 1960's.

In 2018, rather than run for reelection as governor of Louisiana, Landrieu decided to run for the Unionist nomination for President of Dixie. Landrieu, who was first seen as having a longshot at the nomination, was able to defeat the expected frontrunner Vice President Mark Pryor by attacking Pryor's supposed corruption in the Pryor-Lynch Affair and emphasizing on his own capable, liberal administration as governor of Louisiana. At the 2018 Unionist Convention, Landrieu was officially nominated for president, and he endorsed Virginia Senator Tim Kaine for the nomination for the Vice Presidential election.

Early in the election, Landrieu was seen by many as not having a very good chance at the presidency because of his previous small spotlight on the national stage, his status as a francophone in an country with a large anglophone majority, and his opponent, National Party "rising star", Florida Senator Marco Rubio, who was considered to be a very strong opponent. Kaine, as the governor and senator of the largest state in Dixie and seat of government for the country, was quite well known and his opponent was Missouri Governor Linda Lingle, who was also not well-known on the national stage. In the first round of the election, Landrieu performed 6 points worse than Kaine.

In the second round however, the two Unionist nominees would see their positions swap. Rubio decided to skip the 2018 PLL Convention rather than compete with Landrieu for the PLL's endorsement, which he saw as obviously going to Landrieu no matter what. Afterwards, Rubio's popularity with francophone PLL members dropped dramatically in Louisiana, West Florida, and Missouri. Landrieu was able to outperform Rubio in the presidential debates, and his favorability increased after every one.

In the election, Landrieu defeated Rubio by 5 percentage points and carried 8 states including the normally National state of West Florida, which Landrieu was able to win thanks to his impressive performance among francophones. Kaine was defeated by Lingle in the vice-presidential election. This is the first time there has been a president and vice president from different parties since the 1980's.

As president, Landrieu would restructure the bureaucracy of the executive branch, particularly with regards to ethics investigations and whistle-blower protections after the allegations from the Pryor-Lynch Affair harmed public trust in the federal government. He also appointed his former running mate, Tim Kaine as his Secretary of State. Since becoming president, Landrieu's most notable accomplishment was the passage of the Dixie Health and Medical Service Efficiency and Effectiveness Act of 2019 which makes significant reforms to the Dixie Health Service. Since its passage, the conservative wing of the National Party have began to act much more aggressively towards him.

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The 2018 Australian presidential election was held on 18 April 2018 to elect the President of Australia. The election was conducted via preferential voting. Having been elected to two terms, incumbent President Quentin Bryce was not eligible for re-election.

The election was won by Malcolm Turnbull, a lifelong independent and well-known republican activist, who defeated former Labour First Premier Kevin Rudd in the two-candidate preferred count by a comfortable margin of 54.5% to 45.5%. The primary vote results were highly divided, with Turnbull winning 31.1% and Rudd 26.4%, followed by diplomat and Commonwealth candidate George Brandis on 18.3%, independent businessman Clive Palmer with 17.0%, and environmental activist and Green candidate Janet Rice with 7.2%. Preference flows primarily benefited Turnbull, though he still only held 39.8% of total preferences on the penultimate third count.
backstory time

The 1992 Presidential Election was one of the closest and most controversial election in the history of the United States. As of 2016, it remains the last election since 1824 that required the invocation of the Twelfth Amendment and the last election since 1824 in which the winner of the election did not win the most popular votes, or the most electoral votes. This election also remains the best third party performance since 1912, and the lowest vote percentage for an incumbent president since 1932.

Bush's high popularity after the Gulf War lead to many high-profile Democrats from entering, but the race was later defined by the 1990s recession, which had damaged Bush's standing in the polls, and had lead to the rise of Billionaire CEO Ross Perot's campaign. The Democratic nomination would be decided at the contested 1992 Democratic Convention, with Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton ascending to the nomination after a deal with the Kerrey delegates to name Senator Bob Kerrey to be his Vice-Presidential Nominee. After the nomination, Jerry Brown and his delegates would walk out, many of his supporters ending up backing Ross Perot.

Perot would name former Colorado Governor, Dick Lamm, as his running mate and establish a slim lead in pre-election polls. However, Perot's momentum would fade away into the summer as Clinton and Bush ramped up attacks on the independent businessman and he'd fall to a close third place after the Presidential Debates. During the campaign, Clinton and Perot stressed the economy, with Perot's opposition to NAFTA being a main issue. Bush would attempt to highlight his foreign policy achievements, the success of the Reagan era, and Clinton's personal character.

The election would be close, as it appeared President Bush had narrowly clawed his way into a second term early on in the night, but it would eventually appear that Ross Perot's third-party candidacy would deadlock the electoral college, leaving no candidate with a majority. Although Bush won the most electoral votes, being at 255, he was still 15 electoral votes away from an official majority.

As no candidate secured the required number of votes from the Electoral College, the election was decided by the House of Representatives under the provisions of the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Certification of results were stalled by the Clinton campaign's requested recounts in North Carolina and Texas, both decided by a margin under (0.2%) and by reporting issues in California over absentee ballots. After the recounts were halted on December 1st and December 4th, respectively, the results would still be deadlocked. The House would convene on January 6th to determine the winner. After one ballot, the House voted to declare Bill Clinton as President-elect while the Senate correspondingly voted for his running mate, Bob Kerrey. Only one Representative, Bernie Sanders of Vermont-at-large, voted for Ross Perot.

The 1996 Presidential Election was the second presidential election in a row in which an incumbent president has lost re-election. Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary, Jack Kemp, and Indiana Senator Richard Lugar bested incumbent Bill Clinton and Bob Kerrey by a wide margin in the electoral college, and a relatively close margin in the popular vote. Perot's 1992 running mate, former Colorado Governor, Dick Lamm, ran under the newly created Reform party and significantly under performed Perot's 1992 numbers, both in the electoral college and popular vote.

Clinton's popularity had waned following the 1994 midterms and Republican takeover of the House and Senate, and it continued to decrease as economic recovery from the 1990s recession remained sluggish into 1995 and 1996. Bitterness from Clinton's "broken victory" in 1992 would also hold down his approval. Despite his unpopularity, Clinton managed to ward off a primary challenge from former Pennsylvania Governor, Bob Casey and Activist Lyndon LaRouche. On the Republican side, the former Congressman and Secretary, Jack Kemp easily won the Republican nomination against candidates such as Bob Dornan, Pat Buchanan, and Steve Forbes.

The economy and foreign policy were the main issues of the campaign, due to the slow recovery under Clinton and the administration's failure in dealing with the Soviet Civil War and the Third Balkan Wars. Kemp chose Senator Richard Lugar, a well-respected foreign policy expert in the Senate as Vice President to increase the ticket's foreign policy credentials, and to sway more voters from the key Midwest region. Personal issues would also dog the campaign, as allegations of Bill Clinton's affairs with White House staffers would follow the President everywhere during the trail.

Kemp would maintain a slight lead in most pre-election polling, and he defeated Bill Clinton by a substantial margin in the electoral vote, being elected President. After the election, Bill Clinton would retire from politics, whilst Bob Kerrey would launch a failed bid for President in 2000.
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Another wikibox from my TL.
How did he get so much done in only 4 months!?! It seems like adding an extra year to McCarthy's Presidency would make the major bills passed more realistic and allow for him to do a bit more before being ousted in a failed coup.
McCarthy OTL declared that the NAACP was a traitorous and communist organization but here he's a civil rights supporter?
Also the thing mentions his "pro-labor credentials", despite the fact he tried to blacklist anyone even slightly to the left as a "commie traitor"
1992/1996 snip
I love any TL where Perot accomplishes something, even if it's just deadlocking the EC. Quick clarifying question as well, looks like Bush dropped Quayle as his running mate for Kemp? Or was there a different situation with HW's veep?
I wanted to do something a bit more out there with my China TL, so I figured I'd do a wikibox related to a fictional Chinese film from TTL.


Mr. Miao ((Chinese: 苗生; pinyin: Miáo shēng) is a 1995 Chinese animated film based on the 18th century short story of the same name by Pu Songling and directed by Dai Lietang, creator of the Black Cat Detective animated series. While originally produced by Dai and his team at Shanghai Animation Film Studio with the intention of rivalling the fairytale retellings of contemporary Disney movies, Mr. Miao differs somewhat in that it adapted, rather than dropping, several of the more controversial themes of the story, such as Miao’s murderous attitude, though it changes numerous other elements.

When the film was released internationally in 1997, with the starring roles in the English voice cast including Keanu Reeves as Gong, Scott Bakula as Jin and Sir Derek Jacobi as Miao, it performed surprisingly well, significantly outperforming the dub’s budget in its international box office grossing and raising Dai’s profile in the international animation community. The film has gained a sizeable cult following for its distinctive animation style and unusually dark subject matter, occasionally being compared to films such as Anastasia or Felidae.

In this adaptation of the story, Gong meets the imposing but softly-spoken stranger Miao when his horse collapses en route to Xi’an and Miao allows Gong to stay at his home. While Gong notes Miao’s catlike behaviour, drinking from a bowl and stretching and yawning in similar ways, he is grateful to Miao for allowing him to stay and for his generous sharing of food and drink.

Striking up a friendship, Gong invites Miao to meet his friends, and during their picnic on Mount Hua Miao grows agitated by their rudeness, eventually transforming into a tiger and killing all the men besides Gong and his friend and fellow scholar Jin, who flee despite Miao turning back into a human and promising to spare them.

Three years later, Jin and Gong return to Mount Hua to find the ghost of their friend Ji, whose soul is enslaved for his cruelty and who can only be freed if he repents and another soul replaces him; Jin and Gong go to another friend, Jiang, who sees this as an opportunity to sacrifice his friend and rival Yu.

When Jiang and Yu come to the meeting place guided by Jin and Gong, Miao meets them and frees Ji, but devours Jiang instead of Yu as a tiger, explaining that he could tell Jiang’s soul was not worth sparing. Now that they understand Miao’s moral code, Jin and Gong apologize for their judgement of Miao, and take him up on his offer to become like him, able to turn into tigers and consume those who are cruel and immoral.

When released in China in December 1995, Mr. Miao received positive reviews from critics, with Wu Di, the film critic of Reference News, praising it as ‘a wonderful retelling of a classic tale which reworks it excellently into the medium of family film’. It became the highest-grossing animated film in Chinese history by the end of its theatrical run, earning ¥222 million (over ¥372 million in 2020) and holding this record until 2011. When released internationally, the dub grossed $35 million ($56.7 million in 2020) against a $5 million budget, and was also critically praised; it received two thumbs up from Siskel and Ebert, and the New York Times described it as ‘a dark folk tale with a uniquely Chinese style and gorgeous animation’.

More recently, certain aspects of the film have been criticized, generally with regards to adaptation; Chinese film critics have occasionally argued that it Westernizes the story with its changes, that it seeks to turn it into a sort of morality play, and that by changing Miao’s main motivation from boredom to ethics it makes the story less unique. International critics have argued that the localization of the dub removes some of the more adult references to make the film more palatable to Western audiences (for example, removing references to alcohol and significantly cutting the deaths of Jin and Gong’s friends). Despite this, the film is generally seen as influential in bringing post-authoritarian Chinese pop culture to an international audience in a similar way to the spread of Japanese anime and tokusatsu before it and Korean ‘K-drama’ afterwards.

(The poster I found was from a real adaptation of the story, but I couldn't find any details for it and I don't really have the graphic design skills to make a poster so I went with this.)
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