So does anyone remember the map/infobox that used the map below as a way to create a much more diverse United States? I can never seem to find it.
What timeline is this from?The 1995 Chinese presidential election proved to be one of the strangest in the history of democratic China. In 1993, after the Kuomintang lost over 80 seats in the second National Congress election in part due to the slumping economy and influenced by his consistently poor approval ratings, President Zhao Ziyang announced he would not run for a third term as President in 1995. However, the conflict over who should replace him as President within the Kuomintang proved extremely contentious.
Effectively, two major candidates came forward in the run-up to the election, both of them former Mayors of Shanghai who had been praised for fairly cordial dealings with students and international press in the run-up to the Tiananmen Square Revolution: Jiang Zemin, mayor from 1985-87 and then-current Zhao Cabinet member, and Zhu Rongji, mayor from 1987 onwards (having become the first democratically elected mayor in 1990). The two had significantly different priorities in their campaigning; Jiang’s priority was stabilizing the economy, which had begun to decline due to the slowing economy of the early 1990s leading to massive unemployment and limited bailouts and subsidiaries for companies causing them to close, and advocated for ‘sensible levels of investment’ to redress this balance.
Zhu, by contrast, criticized Jiang for the ‘financial incompetence’ of the Zhao government, and used his image as a technocratic problem-solver (Shanghai’s unemployment rate was almost half those of Shanghai and Guangzhou) and skilled economist to frame his policies as ‘a way to save China’s economy’. He was also seen as a reformist and reminded voters he had been one of the most conciliatory leaders in the Tiananmen Square Revolution; on top of that, his outreaching to non-Kuomintang supporters through these tactics seemed to suggest he might make a run for the Presidency of his own if he was not nominated. This led to a popular joke among observers that ‘the only thing the Kuomintang has to fear is the Kuomintang itself’.
Needless to say, the conflict between the two Kuomintang figures greatly overshadowed the Progressives’ contest for a Presidential candidate. The figure to ultimately come out on top was Shen Tong, a left-wing populist who had participated in the Tiananmen Square Revolution and had served since 1990 as editor of Reference News, which he had helped liberalize and turn into China’s newspaper of record. While this made him unpopular with the party’s left, as Reference News was a fairly moderate newspaper which was critical of all parties to some extent, Shen declared he would resign as editor if he was nominated for President, a promise he kept in April 1995.
Meanwhile in the Kuomintang, the national primaries held from January to June of 1995 were extremely close-run between Jiang and Zhu, but the overexposure of Zhu led voters to slowly start perceiving him more and more as arrogant and power-hungry. Ultimately, Jiang won out narrowly for the Kuomintang nomination, but Zhu and his supporters were not swayed from wanting him to win the Presidency. In a surprise move, the Economic Liberals threw their weight behind Zhu instead of running their own candidate, and his star started rising again.
By September 1995, the polls suggested no candidate would win an absolute majority of the vote as Zhao had in 1990, with some polls even suggesting Zhu could beat Jiang; Shen hovered around the 25-30% mark, significantly below Liu Xiaobo’s performance in 1990. As a result of the clout he had achieved, Zhu was able to demand inclusion in a three-man debate, but this was where his momentum stopped. Despite being praised by pundits for a strong performance, with many saying he had outperformed both Jiang and Shen, voters viewed his attitude as officious and distant. In a highly publicized CTV News interview with numerous members of the Chinese public, people commented that ‘China needs a President, not a boss’ and that ‘Zhu doesn’t seem to see how these cuts would hurt us’.
As a consequence, Zhu started to decline in the polls, though generally staying ahead of Shen, something that worried Progressives. As the campaign went on, however, the distance between those two shrank, and many voters made it clear their vote was more for Zhu than for the Economic Liberals.
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When the final votes had been tallied, Zhu had severely underperformed expectations and Jiang had risen above them significantly. Despite this, he had become the first (and so far only) President of China elected with less than a majority of the popular vote. The enthusiasm of the Economic Liberals that they had just come second in an election was soon deflated when, in early 1996, Zhu and Jiang shook hands at a press conference and Zhu was admitted to Jiang’s first Cabinet as Premier of the State Council, effectively the most senior figure on economic affairs. This was a highly surprising move, but Zhu admitted he had had ‘contentious relationships’ with Economic Liberal figures and had accepted an invitation from Jiang, who considered him ‘the foremost economic expert in the Kuomintang’.
In the next few years, as the Asian financial crisis hit, China would need deft economic management to help improve its situation.
"Our decisions must be based on pure Logic(TM) unpolluted by messy things like Facts!"you know it's technocratic government when no population, no infrastructure, and no political consideration all come in behind 'the math says it's the middle part' and that's good enough
I think you had it right to begin with. Ego is “I” and sum is “I am.”My bad.
Dropped everythinbg just to read this. A few things:Sorry if it's a little long.
Thanks!I think you just blew everyone else in this thread out of the water.
Weirdos with a built-in idea of upward mobility in society. Not only does Albionism actively promote the American Dream, the aristocracy that exists in the United Empire is... different than what one might expect. The best I can explain it is that it's based on personal wealth, so while titles and such are technically hereditary, it's attached to the amount of money you have. So if, say, Henry Ford III makes some bad business decisions and goes bankrupt, away go the titles gained by his grandfather.Damn the US opens up Japan in 1801? So America’s much, much stronger than OTL? I’d have expected America to be substantially weaker since potential immigrants might see Columbia as weirdos and make their way to South America.
Like many Ancient Greek, Roman, and Egyptian figures, he's been coopted by the church and the neoclassical movement as a minor religious figure. Greco-Roman and Egyptian mythology are seen as predecessors to Albionism, a sort of "beta" version of the faith that had good ideas but it just wasn't the time for Lady Columbia to formally intervene yet. In this context, Julius Caesar is seen as a man who believed himself to be the Son of Columbia, but he wasn't, even if he was kind of a demigod-on-earth.How does Julius Cesar fit into Albionism?
Not really. The Albionic Church is very much a Northern thing, with Northern ideals plastered all over it. Christianity was popular in the South until the Great Troubles (Caesar Jackson's overthrow of the government) and still remained decently followed until the Civil War and Reconstruction killed it. As such, the Albionic Church didn't really get to the regions where voodoo was popular until the faith was pretty firmly established.Are there any voodoo influences to the Albionic church?
I honestly haven't thought that part through yet, so I'm afraid I can't give you a straight answer. Just know that Albionism has a similar draw and mass conversion rate as Islam did in its early days.Somewhat related, how did native Africans react to the Albionic Church? Given how the Ashanti integrated Chirstianity into their founding myth, I do hope we see more of Afro-Albionism. Was there something similar to WMiT's African Fundementalist Church?
Heh heh, are there ever. There are cults surrounding Uncle Sam, Chinese groups that incorporate Buddhism or Daoism in the same way vanilla Albionism took on Shinto, people that take the Book of Salem as gospel (people pretty similar to OTL Wicca, I'd say), and many more. Though, I wouldn't say many of them are actually schismites; outside of the Cult of the Uncle, most of these groups believe most of the same things as the next Chosen One, it's just some parts have more... flavor.Are there schisimites?
The short answer? No. The long answer? Noooooooooo. Ever since the early 19th century, Japan and the United Empire/UKA have been two peas in a pod. In the beginning, the UEC heavily outweighed Japan, but in recent times as Meiji-esque reforms took hold the two have drawn closer and closer. Today, the two empires are in a tight-knit, symbiotic relationship. The don't really fight over influence because in the end, everything gets shared.Have the US and Japan ever clashed over spheres of influence? Especially during the Warlord Era? How closely aligned are these countries as of the modern day?
Can't really say. China got absolutely fucked ITTL, mostly by the Franco-Columbian-Japanese axis, so they're not in the best shape.Was there a Taiping-esque movement in China? Maybe a failed attempt by a Chinese cult leader to displace Japan’s position in the Church?
I'm going to make this into a Maps & Graphics TL. I just need to finish the modern day map first.Please please tell me there’s gonna be a follow up.
inspired by @Turquoise Blue's comment on Discord
The 1956 Democratic Party presidential primaries were part of the selection process by which voters of the Democratic Party chose its nominee for President of the United States in the 1956 U.S. presidential election. 26 states and 3 territories held actual primary elections, while the rest of the country saw delegate selection confined to state-level conventions and caucuses, many of which were controlled by local political machines.
Early primaries and conventions saw freshman Massachusetts Senator Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. emerge as the immediate frontrunner. Popularly presented as a handsome, highly decorated veteran of the Pacific War, Joe P. Kennedy had a well-financed, well-organized campaign team (courtesy of his father, Bay State mogul Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.) and was expected to secure the nomination with ease, beating out comparatively weaker candidates like House Democratic Leader Clarence Cannon and Governor of Georgia Herman Talmadge; however, the party establishment was concerned about his chances at victory, given Kennedy's relative youth and his extreme hostility to organized labor and certain racial and ethnic minorities.
The 1954 Republican landslide discouraged mainstream Democratic candidates and local sons from undertaking a nationwide presidential campaign and challenging the young Massachusetts Senator; as such, when the 65 year old ex-Governor of Rhode Island Howard P. Lovecraft entered the primary race, major newspapers and pundits laughed him off as a "New England obscurity". Lovecraft ran a spirited campaign, and his popularity with Wilsonians and labor groups allowed him to rout Kennedy in a number of Midwestern states; he was also endorsed by the Progressive Democratic organization in California and its informal leaders such as former Congressman Edouard Izac, leading him to win the Pacific Coast states as well. However, Lovecraft's financial state paled in comparison with the well-funded Kennedy campaign, and accusations of being a mentally unfit, soft-on-eugenics, card-carrying member of the Socialist Party, attacks by nativist mobs (such as the one in Madison, organized by local politician Joseph McCarthy), and his own introverted attitude and age-exacerbated neuroses eventually caused Howard P. Lovecraft to end his presidential campaign.
As the 1956 Democratic National Convention approached and torch-wielding mobs chanted "Give 'em hell, Joe!", Lovecraft was courted by Progressive Party members to run as their presidential nominee; however, Lovecraft curtly refused, stating that he did not desire to run against President John Coolidge.