Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes V (Do Not Post Current Politics Here)

It's been hinted and mentioned a few times in the TL, and some oldtimers may find this...familiar. But now, and in time for the holidays, it's time.

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Introduction to the Existence of Nation-Personifications

Among the myriad peoples that make up humanity are beings that from the outside resemble us. At the same time, however, they embody within their very essence whole cultures, polities and countries to such a degree that they are them. From all the names given to them, it is for the sake of convenience that this document refers to these beings as "Nation-Personifications," or "Nations" for short. Although by no means exclusive to this timeline, it is wise not to neglect this element.

While it appears impossible to determine when the first Nation appeared, over the millennia they have left their mark in and out of historical records. Predating philosophical, academic and political discourses into "nationalism," it is not out of the imagination that ancient civilizations may have placed their avatars as spirits and gods. This is not to ignore various pieces of folklore, art and legend, based however loosely on their involvement with certain historical events. Indeed, it's believed that various current religions around the world (whether the Shinto worshipers of Japan, the Jews or the Vatican-in-Exile) still quietly acknowledge their existence as proof of the ethereal.

Despite the mystery surrounding these embodiments and their apparent defiance to known scientific laws, there are myriad observations that could be arrived at with a fair amount of certainty. Their "birth" roughly coincides with the founding of a new country, or an otherwise sufficiently formed polity. Likewise, the manner in which they grow based on their domains' size, strength and age; as such they appear to maintain the same physical age for several generations. They could sense most if not everything that in their domains, though nonetheless appear to be sentient and can act independently of their citizens and governments. Nonetheless, their general behavior, physical appearance and personalities, seem to be based at least in part on the predominant culture, along with various diplomatic and political factors. Furthermore, they possess some degree of supernatural abilities beyond immortality, such as unnatural strength, being able to shrug off conventional weaponry and revive with each successive "death." Terminal death, on the other hand, is theorized to occur whenever their peoples no longer associate themselves or have been sufficiently decimated, if accounts of the Fall of Rome are to be believed.

Needless to say, they possess unto themselves the power to serve, coexist with or potentially subjugate (if not outright destroy) humanity. This partially explains official policy across the Free World, including Reactionary governments, to keep their true identities hidden or at least "discreet." It is also known, however, that there exist on the Nations' part unspoken pledges or "gentlemen's agreements." Developed over countless generations, their commonalities can be boiled down to mutual respect for privacy, some degree of secrecy, self-preservation and a clear desire to strive for the good of both themselves and their respective citizens. While these have not stopped them from interacting with their peoples to a significant degree, serving as inspiration (unintentional or otherwise) for various works over the generations, or attract the attention of those who believe in their very existence, this state of affairs has proven to be remarkably stable. That most academics and political experts tend to dismiss them as superstition or irrational has also proven to be boon to keeping the status quo going.

Beyond all that has been said, and of which would be further expounded in detail, one enters the realm of speculation. Potentially, such beings hold keys into the very nature of societies, politics and possibly more. By that same token, however, these are suspected as influencing the Collectivists' secret clause on their extermination.

Although concealed through esoteric allegories in official Collectivist Internationale dogma, the Nations are still referred to in ColStandard as "abominations" against the Will of the Workers and the very nature of Man. The Party's claims of having found the means to systematically kill these beings by its own hands were first confirmed with the Terror. Classified documents have since designated those having perished to the enemy "Lost Nations," a term that has somehow filtered into public consciousness without the underlying meaning. Fragmented and possibly unverifiable reports over the past century, however, seem to suggest other factors may be at work, though this would require further research.

At any rate, those aware of the existence of these personifications must take great care. Lest any significant break from the status quo risk sparking a crisis of global proportions...

- Recovered fragment from "An Introductory Primer to Other Worlds." Unknown. 2022 Edition.

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For added trivia, the text above is a heavily updated version of an old drabble, Classified Intro: RDNA-verse F. As with that text, this is meant to both introduce the notion of personified entities in the setting and explain why they're not exactly out in the open.

Die nationale Frage is German for "The National Question." In-universe, it's treated with the same (lack of) respect as something like Ancient Aliens or the old Leonard Nimoy In Search Of... documentaries.

The "lost edition" mentioned in the Contents is a subtle reference to an early story made back in 2011 as a fanfic: The Personal Records of a Doctor. Coincidentally, the book's title is the German version of the fic's name.

An Axis Powers Hetalia-influenced element carried over from the earliest days of the TL, the idea of "Nations" proved to be both interesting enough to keep building on and broad enough that it could stand independently of that particular work. Though admittedly, it seems like every other month, someone reinvents or rediscovers Hetalia since one can only go so far with Polandballs, though I digress.

More to the point, the Wikibox and accompanying lore also highlight how something like the existence of personified polities wouldn't be public knowledge in-universe, given how such talk would be dismissed in polite society or officially denied. Though on some level, there is still some acknowledgement, however downplayed.

Also, special credit to shardanic on DeviantArt for the commissioned art used for Francesca. I'd recommend his work!

(EDIT: Belated edit)

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To the Edge and Maybe Over-Part 13
"Oh-well, that is certainly not good."
-CNBC host Larry Kudlow reacting the dip on the stock market, February 16, 2007

"The seeds for the 2007 financial crisis had been brewing for years prior to the crisis beginning. The US federal government and its agencies had for decades been tacitly encouraging banks to make risky loans for subprime mortgages. When these loans couldn't be repaid, major losses were incurred. Much blame at the time was placed on the incumbent government of Joe Lieberman, but the fact was Lieberman was probably not in any position to reverse the buildup to recession."
-Excerpt from the book How an Economy Crashes written by economist Tyler Cowen in 2012

"For the past eight years, Lieberman has not governed the country as a progressive. Instead, he has embraced a foreign policy of undue aggression abroad and pro-corporate economics at home. For too long, we have been cowed away from support for the policies America needs in the name of 'centrism' and 'electability.' I am running to put a stop to this."
-Former Senator Paul Wellstone announcing his bid for the presidency, April 2, 2007

"We need stable leadership in these trying times-responsible conservative policies can fix what is wrong with this country. That's what I believe in and what I will provide to the country."
-Florida Governor Jeb Bush announcing his bid for the presidency, April 14, 2007

"We cannot claim to be a party that stands from freedom and limited government and fiscal responsibility if we go along with Lieberman's wars in the Middle East. As president, I would withdraw our forces from Iraq and Afghanistan and focus on repairing our economy. We can't afford to wage an endless war in the Middle East when we have severe problems at home and we can't support getting the government off our backs while maintaining a surveillance state."
-Senator Ron Paul at a campaign rally in Las Vegas, August 10, 2007

"Lieberman's policies are not perfect, but they have kept America safe from threats abroad. I would change some things, sure-but we need consistent leadership in Washington, not radical pie-in-the-sky promises from someone who lost a Democratic seat in Minnesota of all places."
-Senator John Edwards in the Democratic primary debate hosted in September 2007

"Senator Paul's approach in the 2008 primary cycle has shifted somewhat compared to his 2004 campaign. While the passionate railing against an overbearing government and overseas wars remains, Paul has shifted towards discussion of issues involving race and religion. He has carried out outreach to the Muslim-American community and condemned incidents of racial profiling by the federal government. In addition, he has not shied away from highlighting racial disparities in the criminal justice system. It seems likely that these moves are aimed at broadening his electability arguments and highlighting that he would be a break from the previous Republican candidates, as well as a means of distancing himself from the newsletters that dogged him in 2004."
-Nick Gillespie writing in Reason Magazine, October 8, 2007

PAUL & WELLSTONE WIN IOWA

LIEBERMAN TEAM PRIVATELY URGES BIDEN TO DROP OUT BEFORE SUPER TUESDAY, FEARING VICTORY FOR WELLSTONE

HUCKABEE DISTANCES HIMSELF FROM SANTORUM AFTER ENDORSEMENT RUMORS, SAYING 'I'M MY OWN MAN'

FOLLOWING PAUL GAINING FRONTRUNNER STATUS, SECRETARY MCCAIN CHANGES FORMAL PARTY REGISTRATION TO INDEPENDENT

BIDEN DROPS OUT FOLLOWING POOR SHOWING IN SUPER TUESDAY 2, ENDORSING EDWARDS AS HE DEPARTS THE RACE
-Headlines in The Washington Post, January-June 2008

"So, to be clear...your choice this cycle is a guy who has spent the entire campaign going 'I don't know why everyone's so angry, things are fine right now' and the guy who wants to solve every problem by doing nothing. And the lady who thinks Lieberman did 9/11. Well...f***. It's going to be a looong election."
-Jon Stewart on an episode of The Daily Show aired on June 17, 2008
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Ah, the jewel of Shared Worlds.
Thanks! Some ideas age like fine wine.

Good, but if it's a Wikipedia article, people will slam it for its rather informal and/or biased tone. "As the name suggests" will have to be deleted for starters.
Admittedly, it's deliberate. Given it's an attempt to pass it off in-universe as mere superstition. Not to mention it's also reminiscent of the kind of Wikipedia entries in OTL that do have heated flame wars.
 
A Serial Killer in the White House
Part Three: The USSR


Link to Part One: here
Link to Part Two: here

This time, I will not provide a text block underneath. Fire at my way if you want to know more. The next piece is likely either one of Dan Quayle, Mitt Romney, 9/11, or the Sudan War.

The new Flag of the USSR represents a union of East Slavs (red), Turks / Altaics (blue) and other peoples (white), with the eight white stars representing the republics of the new union (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Tatarstan / Idel-Ural, Kyrgyzstan, Sakha / Yatutia, and Tuva.

Also, notice a loss of Kaliningrad, Grodno, Chechnya, Ossetia, half of Dagestan, as well as a change in the borders of Uzbekistan (annexing Osh at the expense of most of Karakalpakstan and some land to its east).

Finally, take a look at the borders of Sudan ITTL. This is the result of an earlier Darfur Genocide, with an independent Darfur, Egypt expanding south, as well as a larger South Sudan... er, Nilotic Republic.

"USSR", "CCCP", and "Soviet" redirect here. For other uses, see USSR (disambiguation), CCCP (disambiguation), and Soviet (disambiguation). For the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, see History of the Soviet Union (1922-1993).
For the specific Russian Republic in the Soviet Union sometimes referred to "Soviet Russia", see Russian Soviet Federative Sovereign Republic.


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Infobox for the North American Union from a timeline I am designing called So Far From God, based on a POD in 1909 leading to an American invasion of Mexico during WW1. Despite the initial upset in their relations, the United States and Mexico end up becoming close allies and, together with Canada, form the North American Union, similar to our own European Union.

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quick question, what age would hitler have to have babies at to have grandchildren in 1975, or when he's 85? also, would his grandson be able to be in politics in ~2020? this is talking about a hitler that didn't get his addictions, and will affect my SocDem Hitler wikibox universe
 
quick question, what age would hitler have to have babies at to have grandchildren in 1975, or when he's 85? also, would his grandson be able to be in politics in ~2020? this is talking about a hitler that didn't get his addictions, and will affect my SocDem Hitler wikibox universe
Are the grandchildren born in 1975, or just living at that point? If it's the latter, it's probably reasonable to say (given the era) he would have kids between 1920-1930 (ages 30-40) and then his children did likewise, putting them born between 1950-1960. It's eminently reasonable for someone born then to be in politics today (for instance, most major world leaders are between 55 and 75, which would fit being born in that era).
 
Are the grandchildren born in 1975, or just living at that point? If it's the latter, it's probably reasonable to say (given the era) he would have kids between 1920-1930 (ages 30-40) and then his children did likewise, putting them born between 1950-1960. It's eminently reasonable for someone born then to be in politics today (for instance, most major world leaders are between 55 and 75, which would fit being born in that era).
they can be living, also he'd have to at least have them in 1935, since that's when he marries eva braun ittl
 
they can be living, also he'd have to at least have them in 1935, since that's when he marries eva braun ittl
Okay, then I guess you can say the kids were born sometime between 1936-1946, and the grand children probably 25-30 years later (so 1961-1971 or so?). Same thing applies as above, though, in that they could easily be involved in politics today (even the earliest there, born in 1961, would only be just shy of 60). Definitely material for being a backbencher or prominent depending how you want to script it, and they could have been involved for 25 or 30 years if you wanted.
 
You mention that the US, Canada, and Mexico are the member states, but on the Wikibox, it says that there are 4 member states. Minor error, someone seeking membership, or Kingdom of Hawaii POD?
The original members were the US, Canada, and Mexico, with Belize joining in 2002, which I have under formation. I had included the member states in my edited infobox but forgot to press expand before taking a screenshot. Oops.
 
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