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The Election of 1972 in my Election Game In Defense of Liberty
Humphrey makes a post-election deal with Wallace, who agrees his electors will vote Humphrey in exchange for a lot of concessions. Then Humphrey is assassinated by Bremer and the Democratic electors rally behind Vice President-elect McKeithen.
The Elections of 1964 and 1968
Humphrey makes a post-election deal with Wallace, who agrees his electors will vote Humphrey in exchange for a lot of concessions. Then Humphrey is assassinated by Bremer and the Democratic electors rally behind Vice President-elect McKeithen.
The Elections of 1964 and 1968
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The Democratic electors are unbound after Humphrey's death (as they were when Horace Greeley died in 1872). The party from both sides applied serious pressure to unite in giving John McKeithen their collective 276 presidential votes because everyone in it supported him over four more years of Barry "I literally nuked Vietnam" Goldwater. The northerners get Vice President Bobby Kennedy to cheer them up.
I think in a case like this, McKeithen should be listed as his own presidential candidate, in addition to the other three tickets so like
McKeithen(a) Humphrey(b) Goldwater Wallace
Kennedy McKeithen Percy McKeithen
276 (rec.) 0 (rec) 262 (rec) 0 (rec)
0 (won) 267 (won) 262 (won) 9 (won)
My two cents, cause having McKeithen bolded as the VP candidate seems...odd? And it highlights how odd the circumstances are for this ITTL election
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I don't disagree! It's something I considered when making the infobox and imagine the people making it ITTL would stress over. I spent a while looking at the 1872 box where Greeley is still listed and given his 66 votes even though they were divided between his veep and other candidates, but I do imagine it would be different if he'd won! I mostly just didn't do it because I liked having them all on one row
Henry the Young King being the successor to William has been retconned away. He gets to be Duke of Anjou instead. Meanwhile, William dies of a seizure at the age of 43, leaving his only legitimate child, Princess Rohese, to accede to the throne. She and her supporters point to the precedent of Matilda as justification for Rohese becoming queen.
Géza of Hungary is her husband? Does this mean we get Árpád kings of England? I like it
A small request ... I'm taking my first small steps into the world of wikibox editing... I'm starting to get the hang of it, but I don't know how to change the Electoral College Map that comes with the American Election inboxes (I can delete it, but I can't seem to upload a replacement). This is what I have so far...
It's Géza (c. 1151 - c. 1210), youngest son of King Géza II of Hungary.
From the Bite of a Mosquito, The World Went Mad
Arthur William Patrick Albert Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was born at Buckingham Palace on 1 May 1850c, the seventh child and third son of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. At birth he was third in line to the throne, however as he got older and more children were born, he was moved further from the throne, before the death of Edward VII, Prince Arthur was 30th in line of the throne, however he hit many criteria that the British government wanted as Regent of King Edward VIII, such as being male, an acceptable age (being 60 years old) living in Britain, not having links to a foreign throne, as well as having military experience.
On the death of Edward VIII, 16 year old, Edward, Prince of Wales, became the new King of the United Kingdom and the British Dominions, Emperor of India, Prime Minister H. H. Asquith, called an emergency council, and appointed the former king's brother as Regent of the country.
The regency lasted two years between the young kings succession and Edward's coronation which coincided with his 18th Birthday, during his reign, Prince Arthur, would keep King Edward VIII, up to date with all the running of the country and empire, similar to the wishes of his brother King Edward VII who had wished to prepare his son for his future role as king, unlike his own upbringing, when Queen Victoria had deliberately excluded Edward from state affairs.
Edward VII had hoped to train his grandson once he reached maturity, however his ill health not let this happen. King Edward VIII was given wide access to state documents by his great uncle, Prince Arthur.
The funeral of King Edward VII took place on Friday, 20 May 1910, the funeral was the largest gathering of European royalty ever to take place, with representatives of 70 states, many bringing their respected suitors for the young bachelor king, including but not limited to:
- 14 year old, Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia, eldest daughter of the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, Emperor Nicholas II, and of Empress Alexandra of Russia (great-grandaughter of Victoria, through Princess Alice)
- 15 year old Elisabeth of Romania, daughter of Ferdinand I of Romania and Marie of Edinburg (herself a daughter of Prince Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh (later Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) and Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia)
- 12 year old, Princess Marie Louise of Schaumburg-Lippe, daughter of Prince Friedrich of Schaumburg-Lippe and Princess Louise of Denmark
- 16 year old, Princess Maud, Countess of Southesk, his cousin and daughter of Alexander Duff, 1st Duke of Fife and Louise, Princess Royal
Events during the Regency:
- The Republican Revolution erupted in Portugal, on 5th October 1910, forcing King Manuel II of Portugal and his wife, Princess Augusta Victoria of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, to flee and take residency in exile in Twickenham, Middlesex.
- In November 1910, conflict between striking miners and police forces in the Rhondda, South Wales, leads to the Tonypandy Riots.
- December 1910 United Kingdom general election, the political context was the effort of the new Liberal government to pass its budget, with higher taxes on the wealthy. It was blocked by the House of Lords. The Government called an election to get a mandate for the Parliament Act 1911, which would prevent the House of Lords from permanently blocking legislation. After the Liberals, together with the Irish Nationalists and Labour, retained their Commons majority, the House of Lords gave way and the budget was passed.
- 3 January 1911, in London, in what becomes known as the Siege of Sidney Street, the Metropolitan Police and the Scots Guards engage in a shootout with a criminal gang of Latvian anarchists holed up in a building in the East End. The Home Secretary, Winston Churchill, attends in person.
- 13 August 1911, the centre of Liverpool is rocked by violence when a meeting of striking transport workers is broken up by police and soldiers. A number of policemen and many strikers are seriously injured in what will become known as 'Bloody Sunday.' Two days later, two men are shot dead on Liverpool's Vauxhall Road by mounted troops during continued unrest following Bloody Sunday.
- 19 August 1911, the Llanelli riots, during demonstrations in support of the national railway strike, two men are shot dead by soldiers of the Worcestershire Regiment in Llanelli. Magistrates' homes are attacked and four more of the crowd are killed outright when explosive material stored on railway property ignites.
- February - April 1912, The national coal strike of 1912 was the first national strike by coal miners in the United Kingdom. Its main goal was securing a minimum wage. After 37 days, the government intervened and ended the strike by passing the Coal Mines Act, establishing a minimum wage for the first time.
- 11 April 1912, Irish Home Rule Bill introduced in the House of Commons, but fails to receive the support of the House of Lords. There are talks between Home Secretary, Reginald McKenna, Prince Arthur and King Edward VIII about performing a royal visit from the King in Ireland.
- 14–15 April 1912, the RMS White Star Liner Titanic following a strike against an iceberg and sinks on her maiden voyage from the United Kingdom to the United States, losing the lives of 1,635 men, women and children.
- In May 1912, Liberal Unionist Party formally merges into the Conservative And Unionist Party.
- 23 June 1912, Edward VIII, turns 18. In a grand ceremony, Westminster Abbey sees a coronation and joint wedding.
Following his term as Regent, Prince Arthur, did not want to he was appointed Governor General of Canada as well as receiving these honours:
- Imperial Field Marshall of British Empire
- Honorary Admiral of the Fleet
- Personal Aide-de-Camp for Life (Having being Personal Aide-de-Camp to his mother and brother, as well as his great nephew, Edward wanted his personal aide for life)
- Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Army, Royal Canadian Navy and Canadian Militia
- Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order
- Extra Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle
- Bailiff Grand Cross of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem
Line of succession to Edward VII on 19th January 1910 (their ages and connection to Edward VII)
1 - Edward, Prince of Wales (Aged 16 and grandson) Became King Edward VIII
2 - Prince Albert of York (Aged 14 and grandson) was given his fa
3 - Prince Henry of York (Aged 10 and grandson)
4 - Prince George of York (Aged 7 an grandson)
5 - Prince John of York (Aged 4 and grandson)
6 - Princess Mary of York (Aged 12 and granddaughter)
7 - Louise, Princess Royal (Aged 43 and daughter)
8 - Princess Arthur of Connaught, Duchess of Fife (Aged 18 and granddaughter)
9 - Princess Maud, Countess of Southesk (Aged 16 and granddaughter)
10 - Princess Victoria (Aged 41 and daughter)
11 - Maud, Queen of Norway (Aged 40 and daughter)
12 - Olaf V, King of Norway (Aged 6 and grandson)
13 - Marie of Romania (Aged 34 and niece)
14 - Carol II of Romania (Aged 16 and great nephew)
15 - Elisabeth of Romania (Aged 15 and great niece)
16 - Maria of Yugoslavia (Aged 10 and great niece)
17 - Prince Nicholas of Romania (Aged 6 and great, great nephew)
18 - Princess Ileana of Romania (Aged 1 and great niece)
19 - Princess Victoria Melita of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Aged 33 and niece)
20 - Grand Duchess Maria Kirillovna of Russia (Aged 3 and great niece)
21 - Grand Duchess Kira Kirillovna of Russia (Aged 0 and great niece)
22 - Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Aged 31 and niece)
23 - Prince Gottfried, 8th Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 12 and great nephew)
24 - Princess Marie Melita of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 11 and great niece)
25 - Princess Alexandra of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 9 and great niece)
26 - Princess Irma of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 7 and great niece)
27 - Princess Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Aged 26 and niece)
28 - Infante Alvaro, Duke of Galliera (Aged 0 and great nephew)
29 - Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (Aged 60 and Brother)
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1 - Edward, Prince of Wales (Aged 16 and grandson) Became King Edward VIII
2 - Prince Albert of York (Aged 14 and grandson) was given his fa
3 - Prince Henry of York (Aged 10 and grandson)
4 - Prince George of York (Aged 7 an grandson)
5 - Prince John of York (Aged 4 and grandson)
6 - Princess Mary of York (Aged 12 and granddaughter)
7 - Louise, Princess Royal (Aged 43 and daughter)
8 - Princess Arthur of Connaught, Duchess of Fife (Aged 18 and granddaughter)
9 - Princess Maud, Countess of Southesk (Aged 16 and granddaughter)
10 - Princess Victoria (Aged 41 and daughter)
11 - Maud, Queen of Norway (Aged 40 and daughter)
12 - Olaf V, King of Norway (Aged 6 and grandson)
13 - Marie of Romania (Aged 34 and niece)
14 - Carol II of Romania (Aged 16 and great nephew)
15 - Elisabeth of Romania (Aged 15 and great niece)
16 - Maria of Yugoslavia (Aged 10 and great niece)
17 - Prince Nicholas of Romania (Aged 6 and great, great nephew)
18 - Princess Ileana of Romania (Aged 1 and great niece)
19 - Princess Victoria Melita of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Aged 33 and niece)
20 - Grand Duchess Maria Kirillovna of Russia (Aged 3 and great niece)
21 - Grand Duchess Kira Kirillovna of Russia (Aged 0 and great niece)
22 - Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Aged 31 and niece)
23 - Prince Gottfried, 8th Prince of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 12 and great nephew)
24 - Princess Marie Melita of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 11 and great niece)
25 - Princess Alexandra of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 9 and great niece)
26 - Princess Irma of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (Aged 7 and great niece)
27 - Princess Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Aged 26 and niece)
28 - Infante Alvaro, Duke of Galliera (Aged 0 and great nephew)
29 - Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (Aged 60 and Brother)
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Death of George, Prince of Wales and Duke of York
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Yes, I figured it out myself with a little googling. I was just saying that Árpád kings of England sounds cool
Link to the timeline
Eastwood’s nomination remained heavily controversial once state Republican parties objected to placing a pro-choice candidate on the ballot. The activist-controlled local parties took Eastwood’s name off the ballot in favor of President Miller. Miller, who had initially expected to enjoy a nice retirement in Georgia, eventually decided to put his hat in the ring as the only candidate who wasn’t a Hollywood elitist liberal. While he initially expected to be a centrist unity candidate, Miller ironically ended up largely as the staunch socially conservative candidate with endorsements from Newt Gingrich and Ann Coulter. On the ballots where he wasn’t a Republican, Miller used the Constitution Party or temporary “McCain 2004” parties. Eastwood secured a joint nomination with the Libertarians in order to get himself and Andrew Napolitano on every state’s ballot.
The campaign was fought over who had the best solution to the ongoing economic collapse and who would have the best solution to ending the various post-9/11 wars. Shakur proposed an expansion of the welfare state, a national health service, a universal basic income, and staunchly opposed bailouts on Wall Street. Shakur and Eastwood had similar plans on the military; both would cut defense spending roughly in half. Eastwood felt that cutting the defense budget, privatizing Social Security, and instituting a flat tax was the best solution to the budget. Miller’s plans largely represented a continuation of the status quo, with an expansion of funding to the military to more effectively protect US allies like Israel and Ukraine.
The presidential debates remained some of the most memorable in history. Shakur didn’t hold any punches, attacking Eastwood’s budget cuts as “a boot stomping on the poorest of the poor” and compared Zell Miller to Southern segregationist politicians for his support of the War on Drugs. Miller became so outraged at his Democratic opponent that he challenged him to a duel, to which Shakur responded that “it would be no contest.” After the debates, the President was ordered by the Secret Service to call off the duel. If the proposed battle had taken place, it would have been the first battle between two Western politicians since Gaston Defferre and René Ribiere in 1967. Eastwood embarrassed himself, bumbling about the economic effects of his budget plan and awkwardly sprinkling in movie quotes. The first debate was largely seen as a draw between Eastwood and Shakur, with Miller as the main loser - the statesman cracking under pressure being seen as unprofessional.
Zell Miller’s supporters countered that the actions Eastwood and Shakur took in show business were not very professional either. Ads brought up Tupac’s controversial 1993 rape conviction or Clint Eastwood’s unknown number of illegitimate children. While Zell Miller himself wanted the campaign to be one about “the issues”, his supporters and campaign largely resorted to personal attacks. As the campaign progressed, Miller’s numbers went down. Quite ironically, when voters became more aware of the specifics of Shakur’s policy program, they supported his radical proposals. Whilst his agenda was branded as extremist, it made the “mainstream” plans of Eastwood and Miller look far-right in comparison.
By the third debate, it was clear Shakur would win the election. Democrats who had reservations about his candidacy or even called him a “cancer on liberalism” pledged their support, despite hoping that most of his policies were watered down when he took office. The scale of Shakur’s victory came as quite a shock when Tim Russert announced the election results. By the end of the night, Shakur won 496 electoral votes, the most since Franklin Roosevelt in 1936, and 55% of the popular vote (the most since Reagan in 1984). The ballot access disputes within the Republican Party and Shakur’s victory being announced before polls closed on the West coast were key factors; but even ignoring the split vote, Tupac Shakur clearly had a strong mandate coming into January 20th, 2009. This gave him the ability to cement his legacy and change American democracy for good by calling a Second Constitutional Convention.
Eastwood’s nomination remained heavily controversial once state Republican parties objected to placing a pro-choice candidate on the ballot. The activist-controlled local parties took Eastwood’s name off the ballot in favor of President Miller. Miller, who had initially expected to enjoy a nice retirement in Georgia, eventually decided to put his hat in the ring as the only candidate who wasn’t a Hollywood elitist liberal. While he initially expected to be a centrist unity candidate, Miller ironically ended up largely as the staunch socially conservative candidate with endorsements from Newt Gingrich and Ann Coulter. On the ballots where he wasn’t a Republican, Miller used the Constitution Party or temporary “McCain 2004” parties. Eastwood secured a joint nomination with the Libertarians in order to get himself and Andrew Napolitano on every state’s ballot.
The campaign was fought over who had the best solution to the ongoing economic collapse and who would have the best solution to ending the various post-9/11 wars. Shakur proposed an expansion of the welfare state, a national health service, a universal basic income, and staunchly opposed bailouts on Wall Street. Shakur and Eastwood had similar plans on the military; both would cut defense spending roughly in half. Eastwood felt that cutting the defense budget, privatizing Social Security, and instituting a flat tax was the best solution to the budget. Miller’s plans largely represented a continuation of the status quo, with an expansion of funding to the military to more effectively protect US allies like Israel and Ukraine.
The presidential debates remained some of the most memorable in history. Shakur didn’t hold any punches, attacking Eastwood’s budget cuts as “a boot stomping on the poorest of the poor” and compared Zell Miller to Southern segregationist politicians for his support of the War on Drugs. Miller became so outraged at his Democratic opponent that he challenged him to a duel, to which Shakur responded that “it would be no contest.” After the debates, the President was ordered by the Secret Service to call off the duel. If the proposed battle had taken place, it would have been the first battle between two Western politicians since Gaston Defferre and René Ribiere in 1967. Eastwood embarrassed himself, bumbling about the economic effects of his budget plan and awkwardly sprinkling in movie quotes. The first debate was largely seen as a draw between Eastwood and Shakur, with Miller as the main loser - the statesman cracking under pressure being seen as unprofessional.
Zell Miller’s supporters countered that the actions Eastwood and Shakur took in show business were not very professional either. Ads brought up Tupac’s controversial 1993 rape conviction or Clint Eastwood’s unknown number of illegitimate children. While Zell Miller himself wanted the campaign to be one about “the issues”, his supporters and campaign largely resorted to personal attacks. As the campaign progressed, Miller’s numbers went down. Quite ironically, when voters became more aware of the specifics of Shakur’s policy program, they supported his radical proposals. Whilst his agenda was branded as extremist, it made the “mainstream” plans of Eastwood and Miller look far-right in comparison.
By the third debate, it was clear Shakur would win the election. Democrats who had reservations about his candidacy or even called him a “cancer on liberalism” pledged their support, despite hoping that most of his policies were watered down when he took office. The scale of Shakur’s victory came as quite a shock when Tim Russert announced the election results. By the end of the night, Shakur won 496 electoral votes, the most since Franklin Roosevelt in 1936, and 55% of the popular vote (the most since Reagan in 1984). The ballot access disputes within the Republican Party and Shakur’s victory being announced before polls closed on the West coast were key factors; but even ignoring the split vote, Tupac Shakur clearly had a strong mandate coming into January 20th, 2009. This gave him the ability to cement his legacy and change American democracy for good by calling a Second Constitutional Convention.
I don't disagree! It's something I considered when making the infobox and imagine the people making it ITTL would stress over. I spent a while looking at the 1872 box where Greeley is still listed and given his 66 votes even though they were divided between his veep and other candidates, but I do imagine it would be different if he'd won! I mostly just didn't do it because I liked having them all on one row
For what it's worth, for awhile the wiki box listed him as having zero, then under that in parenthesis was "(66 elected)". I was the one who edited it that way and was surprised when I read your comment saying it just said 66. I see it was undone a couple of months ago, with no discussion or explanation, by some rando, as were my notes about Grant winning two states whose votes weren't counted. Think I'll just fix that now that its been brought to my attention.
In my opinion though, the way you did it for this scenario is perfect
Well, without the Red Bull buyout, Minardi went bankrupt during the winter of 2005 and 2006. Eventually, the team got sold to Spyker, but the Dutch company shut down its F1 project after running out of money at the end of 2007. There were rumors about an Indian investment group led by Vijay Mallya who wanted to buy the outfit, but they instead choose Jordan/Midland to enter the sport.
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