Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes V (Do Not Post Current Politics Here)

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Done With Dick: The Elections of 1972 (Revised) and 1976

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The expected front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 1980 is Vice President Carey, though other dark horses might emerge. The Republicans meanwhile are faced with a choice between Chuck Percy's message of moderation and Eisenhower/Anderson-style politics or diving deeper into conservatism with a nominee who doesn't get caught hiding his cancer diagnosis. Can the natural party of government make a comeback after eight years?
 
Michael Bennet is an Indian politician, best known for serving as the Minister of Human Resource Development under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Bennet was born in New Delhi, India, while his father, Douglas Bennet, was serving as an aid to the U.S. Ambassador to India. Douglas Bennet reportedly fell in love with the country, and ended up moving there full time, raising his children there. In 2004, Bennet ran for a seat in the Lok Sabha, and managed to win it. His political career reached its highest point in 2012, when he was appointed by Manmohan Singh to head the Ministry of Human resource development. He kept this position until the 2014 elections, in which he lost his seat in the Lok Sabha, and Narendra Modi became Prime Minister.
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Before we risk another thread closure, may we make a suggestion to actually place date limits (and possible exceptions), to avoid such an issue again?
 
If we are talking about a divergence set in 2004, I think 2016 and 2020 are sufficiently far enough to be altered. I'm pretty sure that was established previously.
 

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Even if the PoD was in 2004?
If it will require discussing CURRENT POLITICS in order to have a conversation (like, oh, Barrack Obama as a possible 2020 President and his polices) it is current politics.

Seriously, why is is this so difficult to understand? The rule exists to prevent political catfights outside of Chat, prevent political screeds in the "main" forums, and to generally keep the peace. Things that folks routinely say or they regularly act in Chat WILL get someone kicked on the rest of the Board. That is how Ian has designed things.
 
If it will require discussing CURRENT POLITICS in order to have a conversation (like, oh, Barrack Obama as a possible 2020 President and his polices) it is current politics.

Seriously, why is is this so difficult to understand? The rule exists to prevent political catfights outside of Chat, prevent political screeds in the "main" forums, and to generally keep the peace. Things that folks routinely say or they regularly act in Chat WILL get someone kicked on the rest of the Board. That is how Ian has designed things.
Execpt it wouldn't be current politics thought still wouldn't it? This Obama wpuld almost certainly have different views in an ATL where Mcain became a dem.
 

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Execpt it wouldn't be current politics thought still wouldn't it? This Obama wpuld almost certainly have different views in an ATL where Mcain became a dem.
Would he? Would every bloody poster in the thread think so? Would no one say "well he didn't do that in 2014!"?

Would everyone stay with the concept? I can say, based on many other threads that they would not.
 
Execpt it wouldn't be current politics thought still wouldn't it? This Obama wpuld almost certainly have different views in an ATL where Mcain became a dem.
Let me answer that with a rhetorical question: if someone were to use a picture of Donald Trump in a wikibox calling him Fred Bligs, First Minister of Westwater, would that provoke a discussion of CURRENT POLITICS?
 
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It's A Popularity Contest!
Down in the state of Arkansas in the midst of the cold war, stood a little high school which operated normally to nearly every other high school in the country, with decision being made by a principal which was elected by the members of the Student Grand Assembly with their votes being cast at the begining of each school term. Launched as part of Calvin Coolidge's Interactive Democracy initiative in the 1920s, it would spark long debates about politics around many dinner tables and have homework assignments sloppily copied in exchange for a bribe to a faculty member. The cash for A's scheme was near to a mad dash on your parents' bank accounts for political favors and illegal hit jobs, often with the assistance of the Chicago gang and the Capone led white house for the rich, and the hobo with a shotgun for the more destitute of students.

This blatant corruption within the school system would lead Principal Herbert Hoover to lament that it "Was nothing more than a goddamn popularity contest with the one with the thickest bank account." However, despite cries for reforms of the corrupt system by more progressive principals, such as Thomas Dewey and Theodore Roosevelt and his cousins, congressional legislation would be stalled and killed in committee after committee by politicians who had much to lose with the reforms that the more younger members were proposing. With an explosion in pride, nationalism and anti communist propaganda within the american classroom, a single lone high school in the deep south would usher in large, slow, changes with a singular election.

As Winter Break would wind down and students would begrudgingly drag their feet through the snow to Little Rock Arkansas, a foreign exchange student by the name of Alex Trebek would charm his way through the social elites of the nerds and geeks respectively, hobbling a coalition of seats to win his way to become head of the Homework Party by the snowy fall of 1959.

By that time, a large flu had swept the town of Little Rock, forcing school cancellations and his breif unemployment and furloughs for a short time, blamed on a nasty chicken pox epidemic that would see the Student Grand Assembly brought forcefully into session to think of solutions. Around that time, another crisis struck, which was a strike by the volunteer janitors, demanding actual paychecks, shorter working hours and the right to unionize.

Thinking fast, Principal Bob Dole would deploy the Student Guard out, with a bloody conclusion of ten dead (two guards and eight janitors) drawing public support for left wing and right wing responses to the boost respectively. The names of the eight killed janitors would be named on a plaque in December of 1959. Trebek would lead the loudest shouts for Doles' impeachment as principal, wanting immediate elections to be held. This point was relented by Dole, who officially dissolved the Student Grand Assembly via intercom on December 15th,1959 for immediate elections to be held within one month.

Bill Clinton's Liberty and Burgers party would hastily begin to mobilize it's membership, with a large demand of huge sweeping reforms planned, from shortening the school days and meetings of the 'working lunch' SGA to half an hour less, to the increase in paychecks for those families which were struggling to pay the school taxes in order to allow student representation. However, it would also demand stricter segregation laws and offered up bills that would disenfranchise black students in the school, which made up just 4% (198) of the school's entire population.

He would also have to answer for several 'tutoring' sessions that had gotten the local authorities involved revolving his many abusive relationships towards several female students. When asked about the allegations during the gym debates, he would deny having them with a certain Rosa Parks, a black woman which was the most incendiary of the allegations to surface during the campaign.

JFK Populist Students
By far one of the most outside candidates to the race save for Nixon, most students would wonder what any business the money and looks of a north easterner would be doing in the deep south of all places. The young and charming adolescent would answer with a swing to the populist and disgruntled voters that had previously ousted the former chairman of Stuart Symington. He would be the very first candidate to use the radio as a means of communication between his allies and listeners, spreading their populist campaign of raising the pay for the members of the assembly and offering to execute the very top principals. In these speeches his main promise would be to abolish the position in favor of a council system of various members from his own political party, and others too.

Ronald Reagan Conservative Patriot
The young and good looking Reagan proved to be nearly a copy paste response of the right's response to the soaring success in JFK. He would promise the students a new era away from the brain dead Veteran Faculty,which he declared was out of touch with the angers of the students, such as long lines at drinking fountains and during lunch, restrictions on travel to and from the various rooms within the school and limited tutor times per student. Reagan would mark a path clearly in the minds of the voters: He was the future, and all other candidates seemed to be offering up a solution of a more nostalgic past, instead of a realistic future.

Hillary Clinton School Pride
One of the more right wing of the left wing members, the soul female party leader of School Pride would want to push for radical changes such as the legalization of gay relationships within the school, with herself coming out as gay only a day before the election, one of the many factors that would lead to their parties loss of 8 seats. Besides the new stance on social issues, her party platform was essentially a cookie cutter copy of the largely unpopular Dole candidacy, using a line of thinking that if the most popular candidate is doing this, I'll have these in my campaign too. While attempting to draw candidates that were both attracted to the Dole campaign and disappointed at the lack of social issues addressed by the Dole campaign.

However, she was clumsy and blunt when Reagan and Trebeck hammered her at being a copy of the unpopular Dole and wanting to "ruin traditional relationship within the school". Along with her forcing of friends that made her personal circle shrink more and more, it was an absolute shock that only 8 seats switched hands from School Prides' grasp. Clinton even had a resignation letter proposed to the School Pride leadership, but never sent it off after seeing things weren't as bad as they were, in her words: "We're up shit creek, but we can still find the paddle, we just dropped it somewhere in the creek and now have to look through the shit to find it. We'll find it."


Bob Dole Veteran Faculty
While normally having the power and advantage of the incumbent political party in office would work to the benefit, it would be an out of touch misery for Bob Dole's candidacy and the VF party as a whole. Decried as the party of the "man" and declared to be "filled with goddamn commies" There was more of a reaction in comparison to say the man that was actually running as a communist in the election due to Doles' name recognition as the former Vice Principal before abolishing the post in the early 50s.

Along with his blunt and heavy handed strategies in dealing with the working class and ring of spies that had been discovered in the halls of Reagan's campaign, he was unpopular. He alienated both sides of the political spectrum and was left with wooing moderate voters into supporting his candidacy as a last resort, of which he could only grab a handful of delegates and actual voters come election day. Veteran Faculty would see one of it's largest defeats in the history of school politics, with a staggering loss of 90 seats to the other parties. Upon hearing news of the results, Dole would retire to his quarters before celebrating with the other victorious political members in various vandalizing pranks as part of inaugural hijinks.

Gerald Ford Classroom Populist
Stuck in the classroom because of bad behavior, Ford's campaign was nearly sunk with various detentions and nearly an impeachment and expulsion from the SGA, narrowly avoiding punishment after punishment by the aging Andrew Johnson teacher lookalike. His promises on the campaign trail throughout room to room was a message of populist charm and charisma, though with noticeable gaffes along the way, with a notably bad one being the last minute declaration during a final debate that 'pearl harbor was the best thing to happen to the united states' on a purely industrial level. This would poison the well for several candidates who had hoped to drink to Representatively constituent success in the election.

Richard Nixon Communist
Narrowly avoiding both an assassination attempt and undercover threats to dismantle and divide the communist party's three amigos of the revolution, Nixon would take the party to it's largest left wing sentiment, decrying almost everything to the right of Stalinism, becoming a staunchly hardline member of the party. Being on the local Football team enabled him to convince some of his best friends to both spread the news and attend meetings of Marxist-Leninist thought (With the meetings bugged of course).

He would monitor his friends very closely, watching for almost any sign of betrayal to the "school revolution" he was hoping to bring upon Little Rock, then the Arkansas School Districts. His performance in the debates was seen to be one of his defining moments in clashing with the outsider, though being slightly humiliated in the fact that the foreigner was able to go toe to toe with the skilled debater. This effect would not harm the party's chances at losing seats, with the opposite occurring on election day of two more friends to talk to.
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The 2012 United States presidential election was the 57th quadrennial American presidential election. It was held on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. The Socialist nominee, President Elizabeth Lee, and her running mate, Representative Jamal Harris of Illinois, rode a wave of popularity to the White House. They defeated the Center ticket of former President Richard J. Stokes of Kansas and businessman Ronald Brock of Connecticut. The American Union ticket led by Governor James Gray of Mississippi and Governor William Justice of Arkansas received 2.6% and 16 electoral votes.

As the incumbent president, Lee secured the Socialist nomination with no serious opposition. Stokes easily won the Center nomination, but he faced competition from Governor John Clinton of California and Senator Peter T. Smith of Maine. Gray won the American Union nomination for the second time, facing no opposition.

The campaigns focused heavily on the ongoing Chinese Civil War, with Stokes favoring intervention and Lee favoring neutrality. Other issues included long-term federal budget issues, Lee's universal healthcare plan (later known as AmeriCare), the nuclear weapons treaty with the Soviet Union, and immigration.

Lee defeated Stokes, winning a majority of both the popular vote and the Electoral College. Lee won 52.7% of the popular vote compared to Stokes' 43.3%. Lee was the first incumbent since Ronald Reagan in 1980 to win reelection with fewer electoral votes and a lower popular vote percentage than had been won in the previous election, and was also the first two-term president since Dwight D. Eisenhower to win both her presidential bids with a majority of the nationwide popular vote.

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The 2016 United States presidential election was the 58th quadrennial American presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. The Center ticket of Governor Danny Turner of New Hampshire and Georgia Senator John C. Clayborn defeated the Socialist ticket of Vice President Jamal Harris of Illinois and Mayor David Wasserman of Washington, D.C., the Libertarian ticket of Colorado Governor Angelo Alvarez and Kansas Governor Thomas Pence, and the American Union ticket of Mississippi Governor James Gray and Tennessee Governor Robert Stanton.

Turner defeated Governor Ronald Brock of Connecticut, Representative Leah Kasich of Vermont, and Governor Thomas Markley of Illinois to win the Center nomination. Harris won the Socialist nomination with little opposition and ran a campaign far to the left of President Lee's. Alvarez narrowly won the Libertarian nomination, defeating businessman John Hoover of New York. Gray won the American Union nomination for the third time with no opposition. The campaigns focused heavily on abolishing the Electoral College, with all nominees except Gray being in favor. Other issues included AmeriCare and the economy. Foreign policy was also discussed with the ongoing Turkish Civil War and Harris's support for Palestine becoming major campaign issues.

Turner easily won the popular vote and Electoral College and was sworn in as the 41st President of the United States on January 20, 2017. A number of proposals have been submitted in Congress for abolishing the Electoral College, but as of January 1, 2019, Turner is "adding final touches" to a bipartisan bill that would get rid of the Electoral College. Turner held summits with Soviet Premier George Zherovsky during his first term and ratified President Lee's controversial No More Nuclear Weapons Treaty. He lowered the federal minimum wage from $15 to $12 an hour, reversing a decision Lee made the week before he was sworn in.
 
Let me answer that with a rhetorical question: if someone were to use a picture of Donald Trump in a wikibox calling him Fred Bligs, First Minister of Westwater, would that provoke a discussion of CURRENT POLITICS?
Probably depends on the context. Like, if you write it so that Bligs is a Trump analogue (i.e. wants to build a wall or something) then it’d be current politics, but if all you’re doing is using the picture then you’re probably good.
 
I'll let YOU choose the 2020 Socialist nominee HERE

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Candidate bios:

Mayor David Wasserman of Washington, D.C. is a former journalist who, at one point, called himself a Marxist-Leninist. He would be the most polarizing candidate as he's the farthest left out of all of them.

Governor Jospeh Cobb of Washington is the most popular candidate among the youth. He's a Democratic Socialist (as President Lee was) and would likely beat President Turner.

Former Secretary of State David Weston of California has the most name recognition. Although is isn't the most popular, he'd be able to appeal to both Independents and his own party's base. As Secretary of State he helped negotiate an end to a conflict between Iran and Iraq.

Representative David Chu of New York is running to the right of Wasserman and left of Cobb. A millennial, he's campaigning for a "new generation of leadership." He wouldn't be the best general election candidate, but he has some big ideas such as building enough solar panels in Utah to power the entire United States for years.

Governor Stephen Reeding of Kentucky is the most conservative out of all the candidates. A moderate from a southern state, he would likely help win over Independent voters, but he'd lose some support from the Socialist base.​
 
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