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From the same universe as my last couple of boxes- the currency and the peace obelisk

I'm still not well

The mental image I want you to have here is 'fireforce, but with orbital bombardment'

I'll explain things one day, maybe, but for now you'll have to let your imagination fill in the gap of alien worlds filled with vaguely-defined cultures and people, like France


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I don't get the "I hate House of Cards because it isn't realistic" argument. It's not meant to be a polisci graduate thesis, it's a TV show. Its aim is to entertain, not to talk about the Obama presidency with changed names so that it's "plausible", or to be an actual alternate history experiment.
 
I don't get the "I hate House of Cards because it isn't realistic" argument. It's not meant to be a polisci graduate thesis, it's a TV show. Its aim is to entertain, not to talk about the Obama presidency with changed names so that it's "plausible", or to be an actual alternate history experiment.
The original managed to be both excellently written and make sense.

The American version fails at both.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
I don't get the "I hate House of Cards because it isn't realistic" argument. It's not meant to be a polisci graduate thesis, it's a TV show. Its aim is to entertain, not to talk about the Obama presidency with changed names so that it's "plausible", or to be an actual alternate history experiment.
...because the turns it takes breaks the immersion of the viewer by doing things that aren't logically consistent within the established universe.
 
I don't get the "I hate House of Cards because it isn't realistic" argument. It's not meant to be a polisci graduate thesis, it's a TV show. Its aim is to entertain, not to talk about the Obama presidency with changed names so that it's "plausible", or to be an actual alternate history experiment.

The fact that in this universe a husband and wife ticket is rather plausible, tells you everything. You also have a President who checks in with the Chotiner Rule, yet will probably win, despite having enough baggage and literal skeletons in his closet to make Nixon blush.

The original HoC was a gem and managed to stay rounded in reality without going all needlessly dramatic, nor was it a mere rehash of the source material.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
The fact that in this universe a husband and wife ticket is rather plausible, tells you everything.

The original HoC was a gem and managed to stay rounded in reality without going all needlessly dramatic, nor was it a mere rehash of the source material.
The bit where the House demands his resignation has been burned into my brain, and for good reason.
 
You guys are looking back at the original HoC with very rose tinted glasses. Urquhart got into a fight with the he king that resulted in a General election. He gutted the welfare state and reinstated military service without a peep form the British public. Not to say that a twenty-year old show that is based on the power play post-Thatcher is obviously going to be very different from a show that drifted into Shakespearean storytelling, which is where the nepotism comes from.

The fact that in this universe a husband and wife ticket is rather plausible, tells you everything. You also have a President who checks in with the Chotiner Rule, yet will probably win, despite having enough baggage and literal skeletons in his closet to make Nixon blush.

The original HoC was a gem and managed to stay rounded in reality without going all needlessly dramatic, nor was it a mere rehash of the source material.

It's not rather plausible. They make it seem crazy and work because the guy is so manipulative that it works. At no point is it meant to be a realistic political play.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
You guys are looking back at the original HoC with very rose tinted glasses. Urquhart got into a fight with the he king that resulted in a General election. He gutted the welfare state and reinstated military service without a peep form the British public. Not to say that a twenty-year old show that is based on the power play post-Thatcher is obviously going to be very different from a show that drifted into Shakespearean storytelling, which is where the nepotism comes from.
It's worth noting that the bolded is the point, and is the point of many British Political shows.

I mean, the issues you've citied actually work in the shows favour if you view it as a modern attempt at Shakespeare and a satire of then contemporary British Politics- Urquhart fights with the King over his harsh social policies, the King dissolves Parliament but Urquhart wins the election, forcing the King to abdicate because he has violated his constitutional authority. Given the concern surrounding Charles and Diana's political involvement, that wasn't mental. Gutting the welfare state and reinstating the military, again, isn't mental, because those were hard-right Tory policies during the period, and we are shown the effects of these policies in The Final Cut. Granted, not seeing protests is strange, but again on the bolded, that's a truth in British Politics. And the rebellion against Urquhart in the Commons was meant to symbolise the people turning against him, because that's what the Commons represents.

You are right though, it is a post-Thatcher power play and it's firmly entrenched in its time, but it was also deliberately and obviosuly Shakespearean, drawing blatantly form Richard III and Macbeth. House of Cards US tried to do something similar, but screwed the pooch by taking a logical leap that never actually made sense within the established universe or in this Shakespearean notion.

I mean, the most unrealistic thing about House of Cards UK was that Urquhart won two elections with a majority, not that he was able to put forward plans to gut the welfare state (which to be frank wasn't much by the time he guts it) or reinstate national service.
It's not rather plausible. They make it seem crazy and work because the guy is so manipulative that it works. At no point is it meant to be a realistic political play.
But it breaks the logical consistency that the series has built up to that point, throwing the baby out with the bath water. Even if we ignore it as a political play (which is what is was going for initially, given the pains it takes to be grounded in the 'real' world), the move breaks with the consistency of the world, which is why so many people rally against it. It'd be like if in Agent Lavender Thatcher or Powell were actually Soviet Spires. It wouldn't be that far flung, but it would fragment with what came before that point.
 

Deloria

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The Elizium Broadcasting Society is an independently operated radio broadcast station that affiliates itself voluntarily with the Mandate of Elizium. Elizium is a sovereign post-national entity located in Cis-Mercurian space, where all man may exercise his natural right to live freely and harmoniously in spiritual and material union with society while heroically resisting the vestiges of archaic national colonialism and naked cultural imperialism.

The following announcement was collected from the Office of the Board of Truth at 319 hours by correspondent Y Zhunusov, based on reports variously compiled by the Board of Harmony, Elizium Mandate Council, Elizium Health Commission, the Daily Regimen Monitoring Committee, and the Office of the Protector's Residence (abridged vers.):

It is with bitterest grief and shock that the Board of Truth must notify the residents and pensioners of Elizium that Djumash Bakiyevich Shaukanov, Progenitor, Protector of Elizium, Chairman of the Mandate Council, Chief Military Strategist and Tactician, Uncontested Mister Elizium for 19 Years in a Row, and Our Beloved and Venerable Father, passed away in his sleep at 015 hours 5 August 2236 Earth Coordinated Universal Time. We were made aware of this tragic and sudden event by the Board of Harmony, and facts were confirmed at a later time by the Office of the Protector. It was his 141st birthday a mere four days prior to his passing (alternative phrasing recommended here).

Father Djumash dedicated the last eight decades of his waking life to the protection and nurturing of what would become Elizium, and by his guidance, wisdom, and strong judge of character alone did Elizium prosper and blossom into a great family and an upright society. The riches of the glory of his inheritance are in the air we breathe and the water we drink. His gift to us is Elizium itself, and we are eternally grateful for his hard work and the deep sense of self-reliance he has instilled in us, his children. He passed too soon and too suddenly, to our profound regret, leaving us with a legacy we can only hope to fulfill. We mourn deeply his loss, and hope his successor, Revered Brother Djumash Shaukanovich Shaukanov (add '9th Iteration' here), will be an adequate example (ambiguous language encourages existential anxiety and loss of faith; strongly suggest revision here) be as the helmsman of society, a shining example to all his brothers and his children.

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From Pax Imperium: F-111M Aardvark for the RAF, also Aardvark Mk V. These are new-build, heavily upgraded* Varks designed for colonial missions, based at Habbaniya, Nanyuki and Timehri. (IRAF/RYAF Reserve also use their older Fencers in a similar way in Central Asia). First flew in 1993 and IOC reached in 1999, based on its American F-111S brother.



*based on this OTL Aussie proposal. http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-F-111-Supercruise-2001.htmlView attachment 302183
Nice! Is the Aardvark still in service with the USAF?
 
Esterházy Attila is the controversial former Secretary-General of the Association of Altaic Nations. An outsider candidate nominated by the Hungarian regime, Esterházy soon attracted the support of a coalition of Association members eager to counteract the Turkish domination of the cultural bloc. But, once in office, the quirky little man proved more difficult to manipulate than many had hoped.

A phrenologist by trade, Secretary-General Esterházy began to coopt the organization with his own agenda. Craniometry was in --- linguistics and history were out. He surrounded himself with a clique of science-minded men and women from across Eurasia with two common goals in mind --- the taxonomic classification of the human races and the end of the Jewish grip on world power. While the former agenda was widely popular, Secretary-General Esterházy's obsession with the Jews was considered by most delegates to be a waste of time and resources. In addition to coming under scrutiny for his frequent and bizarre anti-semitic rants, further controversy emerged following the resurfacing of an essay assignment from his undergraduate days in Budapest titled Adolf Hitler Did Nothing Wrong. While it expressed an opinion hardly outside of the mainstream among contemporary Europeans, it was the fact that a large portion of the paper had been plagiarized from an obscure early 21st century Slovenian Hegelian philosopher that drew calls for resignation.

But in the end, it wasn't dialectics that did the Secretary-General in. And it wasn't the Jews, either. After a particularly passionate speech in Ashbagat against a supposed American plot to re-establish the state of Israel, a female Turkish agent seduced the leader and, during a steamy one night stand at a hotel in the Turkmen city, managed to collect a sticky sample of skin cells to send back to Ankara for genetic testing. While news of the affair was shocking in and of itself in the devoutly Christian nation, the results of the test were even more devastating for the Hungarian people, revealing that the Secretary-General was, in fact, 1/16 Romani. Although he initially denied the results, Esterházy caved as demands for a second genetic test grew, admitting the accuracy of the test and immediately resigning from his office.

Calls for further action, including Esterházy's expulsion from the All-Magyar Union of Anti-Zionists could be heard across the nation. But the ruling party declined, citing the fact that their constitution, which banned Jews and Roma from joining, only defined those races in the Hitlerian sense. Furthermore, they explained, a precedent of expulsion over 1/16 ancestry would lead to a witch hunt of genetic testing for party members. As a result, rumors continued to spread of party leadership being composed of crypto-Jews. The refusal to expel Esterházy also led to the entire party youth league ---- the Little Horthys, to walk out from the Union in protest, forming a new party called the All-Magyar Union of Anti-Zionists (Identitarian-Nationalist).

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In addition to coming under scrutiny for his frequent and bizarre anti-semitic rants, further controversy emerged following the resurfacing of an essay assignment from his undergraduate days in Budapest titled Adolf Hitler Did Nothing Wrong. While it expressed an opinion hardly outside of the mainstream among contemporary Europeans, it was the fact that a large portion of the paper had been plagiarized from an obscure early 21st century Slovenian Hegelian philosopher that drew calls for resignation.

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While it expressed an opinion hardly outside of the mainstream among contemporary Europeans, it was the fact that a large portion of the paper had been plagiarized from an obscure early 21st century Slovenian Hegelian philosopher that drew calls for resignation.

Jesus H. Christ

Is this part of that larger future world you've been creating? Because if so!
 
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