Why no, of course this isn't ASB! What on earth gave you that impression?
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Considering how it played out, this probably is the most likely outcome.
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Considering how it played out, this probably is the most likely outcome.
If this kind of stuff happens so much, why hasn't the Empire rip itself apart and falling by now?
The whole 'giant interstellar empire' thing really reduces the impact of any one incident in one system, especially when it takes days or weeks at FTL to move from one place to another. Economically, politically, socially, simply because of the basic situational geography/astronomy, an interstellar body is almost always going to be a loose confederation more than a real, well-defined state- and I don't believe this empire is much different. Asking why it hasn't fallen apart is like asking why the UN didn't fall apart in spite of all the various international crises of the 50s and 60s.
There was a Thomas Anderson who was an Ambassador to some countries in the Caribbean during the Reagan administration. He's living and only 70 years old
It's pretty clear that a lot of the New Deal has been struck down by the TTL Supreme Court, which doesn't seem cowed by the court-packing scheme as in OTL, and future presidents will be bound by precedent not to expand the power of the federal government. So it doesn't seem as though that's a sure thing.
I wouldn't set my ATL clock by OTL business cycles, especially since the recession could be avoided by a lack of cuts to the work programs or by industrial leaders feeling more confident about investment because FDR and his regulatory schemes were out.
And yes, I agree that it will be interesting, but it's foolish to assume that the New Deal and Republican failure in the 1930s are historically inevitable. There's no clear direction for the TL to take, and I'm eagerly awaiting the next entry.
His positions were indeed difficult to pin down. He spoke against the New Deal's encroachment on the rugged individualism that was popular with Republicans then, and he also implemented a number of similar progressive reforms as governor and supported the Great Society later in life. At the very least, he could plausibly govern either way: Roosevelt ran on a pretty conservative platford in 1932 and didn't govern as one.
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Considering how it played out, this probably is the most likely outcome.
Oh, the effects seem pretty plausible, but the base PoD of Internet MANA getting another 20% of the vote? Hmmmm.
The tool I linked to is ridiculously fun, by the way.
You know that the Court's striking down of New Deal legislation before the court-packing scheme is the same as OTL, right? This is just preserving the Lochner-era a bit longer, since we're assuming that Landon won't fight back when the Court continues to strike down New Deal programs. Or that the justices don't realize that it might be better to uphold some New Deal programs since, say, axing Social Security would play right into the hands of people like Huey Long.
The POD is in September 1935 and you have an ATL administration that, if anything, is more likely to cut spending on work programs than the OTL administration. A tightening of the budget and subsequent recession is almost inevitable.
No one ever said that they were.
But I don't get why you're arguing this, since the POD was in 1935 and most of the New Deal has already occurred by that point. Plus, it's almost unthinkable to argue that the odds aren't stacked against a Republican Party that regains the White House only four short years after Hoover left, even with someone like Landon who it seems would make a good president under normal circumstances.
Roosevelt was also a progressive governor prior to running for the presidency on a more conservative platform. He, unsurprisingly, governed as a liberal once he got into the Oval Office.
Also, Landon's railing on the New Deal's attack on "rugged individualism" might have something to do with the fact that he was the Republican nominee and a large part of his party hated (and still hate) the New Deal.
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I love how you organized all the titles.
Man, that last infobox just drives home how Solid the south was between the end of Reconstruction and the beginning of the civil rights era. The Republicans can win by a crushing 24% margin in the national popular vote and the Democrats still take all but two of the former Confederate states.
The write-up doesn't say that it's the same, and the fact that the explanation of the POD begins with the 1935 court term could fairly be taken (as I took it) to suggest that the Supreme Court strikes down even more of the New Deal even more completely than in OTL. That's what prompts FDR to consider court-packing earlier than in OTL.
I think that's a fair assumption. Landon, after all, opposed Roosevelt's seeking a third term as an overreach and didn't seek the presidency to expand government, so it would be rather odd for him to go to war with the Supreme Court over programs that weren't even his being struck down.
As for SCOTUS, there's no reason to think there'll be the stitch in time that saved nine, since Landon was a moderate who espoused no big plans for expanding the government (to say nothing of the possibility of things being passed over his veto), FDR's court-packing plan went down in electoral smoke, FDR got to appoint no justices his first term and Landon might appoint one or two, and SCOTUS doesn't usually tailor its rulings to suit political circumstances.
Most of the New Deal had indeed been passed by 1936, but the Supreme Court heard cases on it into 1937, and an emboldened conservative bloc might strike more down. I see no reason, as a conservative, to have qualms when my candidate wins and the Supreme Court acts the way I'd like it to. But again, let's see what happens.
I know this is dragging on inappropriately long, so that's the last I have to say about this. All I meant to do initially was express my approval of what had happened in the TL and where it seemed to be going. I await the next entry so that these questions can be settled.
You can always use a placeholder image, then paste your desired image over it in MS Paint or an equivalent program.
But you should be able to still use "inspect element" if you make sure that the image's URL has "https" in it instead of "http".
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Yeah. A similar thing happened with the parties reversed in the post-war era. In 1964, LBJ smashed Goldwater with a supermajority, but the South turned red. Meanwhile, in 1984, Ronald Reagan won with two percentage points less than LBJ, but came extremely close to pulling a fifty-stater. I think in general the South votes as a bloc.
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