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1980: The Comeback Kid (Also Jesse Helms revives the AIP from the grave because Ford is too moderate)
This is a work of twisted genius...
Are you referring to me or Jesse Helms? Either way, you are correct about that.
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Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (/ˈhɪləri daɪˈæn ˈrɒdəm ˈklɪntən/; born October 26, 1947) is an American politician serving as the 45th President of the United States. She is the first Woman to hold the office, and the last President to be elected indirectly. She served as the 67th United States Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013, the junior United States Senator representing New York from 2001 to 2009, First Lady of the United States during the presidency of Bill Clinton from 1993 to 2001, and First Lady of Arkansas from 1983 to 1992.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (/ˈhɪləri daɪˈæn ˈrɒdəm ˈklɪntən/; born October 26, 1947) is an American politician serving as the 45th President of the United States. She is the first Woman to hold the office, and the last President to be elected indirectly. She served as the 67th United States Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013, the junior United States Senator representing New York from 2001 to 2009, First Lady of the United States during the presidency of Bill Clinton from 1993 to 2001, and First Lady of Arkansas from 1983 to 1992.
The Chief Secretary of the United States is a senior official of the federal government of the United States of America heading the Executive Office of the President. The Office, considered to be the U.S. government's equivalent of a Prime Minister, was created by the 28th Amendment and assumed the political roles formerly belonging to the White House Chief of Staff and to the Speaker of the House of Representatives (reformed into a Westminster-style non-partisan office); the Chief Secretary, usually the head of the majority party in the House of Representatives, serves as an intermediary role between the President and Congress and is generally responsible for handling the day-to-day operations of government and managing the Civil Service.
Made an update to the infobox that I posted yesterday.
I'm not really good with making back stories, but the premise here is that the Ford Administration finishes his term with a strong economic recovery from 1970s stagflation and the 1981–82 recession. Soviet-US relations are somewhat less tense due to there being no "Evil Empire" speech, and the shootdown of KAL 007 does not happen. However, tensions are still high due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, and the aging Soviet leadership. Due to the recovering economy, the Republicans have good prospects of winning in 1984, and Howard Baker wins the 1984 Republican Primaries against Bob Dole, Paul Laxalt, and Pete Du Pont. In the Democratic Primaries, Gary Hart narrowly wins against former Vice President Walter Mondale. Despite the electoral successes of the American Independent Party in 1980, Senator Jesse Helms declines to run for president again, and instead endorses Howard Baker after he picks Representative Jack Kemp as a more conservative option.
1980: The Comeback Kid (Also Jesse Helms revives the AIP from the grave because Ford is too moderate)
1980 Presidential Election
I'm not really good with making back stories, but the premise here is that the Ford Administration finishes his term with a strong economic recovery from 1970s stagflation and the 1981–82 recession. Soviet-US relations are somewhat less tense due to there being no "Evil Empire" speech, and the shootdown of KAL 007 does not happen. However, tensions are still high due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, and the aging Soviet leadership. Due to the recovering economy, the Republicans have good prospects of winning in 1984, and Howard Baker wins the 1984 Republican Primaries against Bob Dole, Paul Laxalt, and Pete Du Pont. In the Democratic Primaries, Gary Hart narrowly wins against former Vice President Walter Mondale. Despite the electoral successes of the American Independent Party in 1980, Senator Jesse Helms declines to run for president again, and instead endorses Howard Baker after he picks Representative Jack Kemp as a more conservative option.
1980: The Comeback Kid (Also Jesse Helms revives the AIP from the grave because Ford is too moderate)
1980 Presidential Election
1980: The Comeback Kid (Also Jesse Helms revives the AIP from the grave because Ford is too moderate)
This is great, but how does Jimmeh! lose Georgia?
To be fair, that map I posted was based off of a game of President Infinity that I edited (1980 scenario) and played, so I'm not too sure either.
I guess here is a somewhat plausible scenario: Despite the Moral Majority rallying behind Carter in 1976, they are extraordinarily disappointed in Carter, and thus Georgia narrowly turns to the firebrand, extremely conservative Jesse Helms in a three-way split between him and the moderate candidacies of Ford and Carter
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So in instead of reviving my old Wikibox TLs, I think I'm going to just do a FH prediction series of Wikiboxes, based on who I think is going to be the next LDS Church President, then the next after that, and after that, and so on until I don't have any current OTL LDS apostles left. Here's the first, Russell M Nelson, who is likely to become LDS Prophet/Church President fairly soon due to current president Thomas S Monson having extremely bad health and dementia.
Note, the current succession system is based on your seniority in the quorum: the longest serving apostle/member of the Quorum becomes church president at the death of the previous one, while the second most senior becomes President of the Quorum (not the church, just the Quorum of Twelve), and next in line.
Once the new church president dies, the President of the Quorum takes his place. And every time an apostle (including the church president) dies or is moved to the First Presidency (Church President plus two advisors, who also serve as members of the Quorum), a new apostle is ordained.
Its actually not as complicated as it sounds. Basically, most senior guy is next leader, and second most senior is leader-in-waiting. Any time an apostle is removed from the body of the quorum by death, excommunication, or becoming an advisor to the church president, a new apostle is ordained and moves to the back of the seniority line.
In any case, before he got into LDS leadership, Russell Nelson was a world-famous heart surgeon, who supervised the first open heart surgery on a human being. He also operated on apostle Spencer W. Kimball, who as Church President would later ordain him an apostle. I have no idea what he'd do as church president, but there you go.
Note, the current succession system is based on your seniority in the quorum: the longest serving apostle/member of the Quorum becomes church president at the death of the previous one, while the second most senior becomes President of the Quorum (not the church, just the Quorum of Twelve), and next in line.
Once the new church president dies, the President of the Quorum takes his place. And every time an apostle (including the church president) dies or is moved to the First Presidency (Church President plus two advisors, who also serve as members of the Quorum), a new apostle is ordained.
Its actually not as complicated as it sounds. Basically, most senior guy is next leader, and second most senior is leader-in-waiting. Any time an apostle is removed from the body of the quorum by death, excommunication, or becoming an advisor to the church president, a new apostle is ordained and moves to the back of the seniority line.
In any case, before he got into LDS leadership, Russell Nelson was a world-famous heart surgeon, who supervised the first open heart surgery on a human being. He also operated on apostle Spencer W. Kimball, who as Church President would later ordain him an apostle. I have no idea what he'd do as church president, but there you go.
Made an update to the infobox that I posted yesterday.
I'm not really good with making back stories, but the premise here is that the Ford Administration finishes his term with a strong economic recovery from 1970s stagflation and the 1981–82 recession. Soviet-US relations are somewhat less tense due to there being no "Evil Empire" speech, and the shootdown of KAL 007 does not happen. However, tensions are still high due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, and the aging Soviet leadership. Due to the recovering economy, the Republicans have good prospects of winning in 1984, and Howard Baker wins the 1984 Republican Primaries against Bob Dole, Paul Laxalt, and Pete Du Pont. In the Democratic Primaries, Gary Hart narrowly wins against former Vice President Walter Mondale. Despite the electoral successes of the American Independent Party in 1980, Senator Jesse Helms declines to run for president again, and instead endorses Howard Baker after he picks Representative Jack Kemp as a more conservative option.
1980: The Comeback Kid (Also Jesse Helms revives the AIP from the grave because Ford is too moderate)
1980 Presidential Election
Hopefully the failure of two moderates (Carter and Hart) kills the New Democrats in their crib.
Looks like his term will be quite short, at least the shortest since Howard W. Hunter.
Hopefully, because having both the GOP and the democrats be moderate is kinda boring.
Assuming I do an update for 1988, who would be some examples of electable but not moderate democrats?
Mario Cuomo (just look at this awesome speech), Michael Dukakis (though he more than a bit moderate), and Dick Gephardt.
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Well, he's pretty old, so I figured he wouldn't be around too long. Then again, he's in really good health for his age, so he could live past age 100. But I erred on the side of caution this time. He would be around longer than Harold B. Lee if I recall correctly.
Incidentally, I also finished the Wikibox for a LDS President Dallin H. Oaks. Oaks was a lawyer and a judge before becoming an apostle, and served on the Utah Supreme Court and as President of Brigham Young University. The delay between his ordination as an apostle and ordination as a Quorum of the Twelve exists because he had to finish things up at BYU and divest himself of secular conflicts of interests. He was ordained at the same time as Russell M Nelson, but when that happens, the older apostle has seniority. As Oaks is 83 and Nelson 91 in OTL right now, Nelson is the senior and would thus be the next church president. Oaks is a lot more openly politically conservative than Nelson, and has spoken many times about religious liberty and same-sex marriage, so I imagine his tenure would be pretty conservative politically, though his judicial and educational instincts could also ensure internal reforms in the church. He also may be the one who ends up in the head job when reforms and changes in the Church's political attitude are forced to happen by external events. Incidentally, his successor as church president is likely to be the guy who succeeded him as President of BYU.
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