Alternate Weapons of War thread...

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Franz Josef II, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    Madsen LMG with a Pistol Grip
     
  2. Musketeer513 Member

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    Cool.
     
  3. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    The Sten Gun with a Mauser Style Buttstock
     
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    A quickie Valkyria Chronicles stuff before I got back doing my Red Alert "Iron Storm" scenario.

    Here's the Gallian Light Tanks and its international variants.
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  5. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    A De Lisle Carbine meets a Mauser Rifle
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    An Obrez Mauser
     

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  6. EmperorMcDagger Well-Known Member

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    What is this? A Mauser for ants?!

    In all seriousness, awesome job!
     
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    I remember the Wolfenstein game had MK II Stens chambered for .357 Magnum(the round came out in 1935). If you built a high quality Sten in that caliber with a 2-3 round burst control I think it could be viable.
     
  8. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    I made this for shits and giggles, but this is an obrez Gewehr-43
     
  9. Alpha-King98760 Aku's most favorite assassin, babe!

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    Oh my God! It’s adorable!
     
  10. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    I doubt that I would ever be very practical, and it looks like a Prop from Mad Max or Star Wars
     
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  11. BelfastBrawler Also known as Pub Pal Pete

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    The Sten was never viable.
     
  12. Kevin Renner Well-Known Member

    I can just see a rimmed cartridge in a stick magazine. Of course a lengthened 9mm case might work.
     
  13. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    Some more Alternate Obrez Guns
     
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    A Revision to my previous post of Gallian Light Tank from Valkyria Chronicles.

    The changes includes the turret design and some role variants
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  15. xt828 Well-Known Member

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    I hate to be that guy, but you've misspelled "Captured".

    Is the Federation model meant to be just a sheet metal skirt or armour plate?
    What's the rationale for the GEI and Yamatai ones having the armour plates so low, and how are they attached? Does the Yamatai one use a different suspension system?
    I would have thought that the CAA model would have the superstructure built up a little to accommodate the elevation needed for the AA role.
    For the flamethrower, it might be worth considering the Soviet approach and having it externally identical to another model with the flamethrower either in the hull or inside a false barrel.
     
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  16. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    The St. John Submachine-Gun, which was designed and used by the Crusadist Army of Georgia.
     
  17. BelfastBrawler Also known as Pub Pal Pete

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    looks like a UD42 minus the double stick mag
     
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  18. S. Marlowski Writer of an upcoming fantasy series

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    and an Early Mauser Stock
     
  19. Petike Sky Pirate Extraordinaire

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    The sequel to my previous artwork of various trick arrows used in my RPG fantasy setting. Also the completion of that series. Finally !

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    I consider this the definitive version. As with the previous illustrated sheet, these are more civilian weapons or even equipment, rather than weapons, but as we don't have another adequate weapons-themed thread for these types of artworks, I'm posting it here. ;)

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    Complete overview of what is what:
    Grappling bolt - available in crossbow-launched and speargun-launched variants, the special arrowhead is pushed backwards on impact and activates a mechanism that unreals the climbing rope from the spool; the grappling bolt can stick itself or bore itself only into softer materials, such as wood or packed earth, ineffective against very hard surface such as stone, tiles, bricks, or metal
    Grappling hook - available in crossbow-launched, speargun-launched and hand-thrown variants; once the anchorhead gets anchored into place (against a static obstacle) in a firm and stable way, it unreels a spool of rope (simpler and cheaper versions only have the rope attached even while shooting, as not all spools come equipped with this sort of mechanism)
    Spearbolts - rare and only usable with the equally rare speargun, a special spring-loaded rifle; originally a naval weapon, they are basically short metal javelins (in several typical variations) that can do damage every bit as nasty as a well-shot arrow or bolt, if not moreso (let's just say getting a spearbolt in your gut can ruin your day rather quickly)
    Spiked dart - darthead that fulfills the exact same role as the broadhead and bodkin arrowheads fulfill on bow-shot arrows and crossbow-shot bolts; it is particularly similar to a miniature bodkin arrow, with the only difference being it is shot from a dartgun (a rare spring-loaded handgun) or one of the very small (and very rare) types of teeny-tiny mini-crossbows
    Blunthead dart - cheapo darthead that's incapable of sticking into targets; can be used to hit switches, daze enemies on impact, drop objects (including small light sources like candles) or deliver scraps of paper with messages (concealed in a hollow darthead)
    Ruckus dart - sound-based decoy darthead, but with far simpler inner workings than the ruckus arrows or bolts; it's a very small metallic version of the "whistling arrow" concept, creating a whistling and slightly rattling sound during flight (scooping up air while flying, the air swiftly flowing through its hollow darthead, rattling tiny metal pinheads and causing a whistling sound to occur via the slits on the sides)
    Knockout dart - incapacitating darthead (as the name implies); after the button sets off the trigger, knockout gas, or sleeping gas, etc., is pushed out of the gas cylinder inside through small openings
    Dousing dart - dousing as in "putting out an open fire"; glass darthead, filled with water or special extinguishing liquid, with multiple possible uses (the main one being enhancing shadows at night)
    Bullets - I use this as a collective name, as they're bullets usable not only in firearms, as pistol balls or musket balls, but also in early airguns (again, as musket balls) and even as projectiles for slings and for pelletbows (bullet-shooting crossbows); lead and stone bullets can be used as musket balls and as projectiles for pelletbows or slings, but clay bullets can only be used for pelletbows or slings (as they are too fragile for any guns)

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    I'll note that this is, once again, fairly inspired by the Thief series and other prominent uses of the concept of the "trick arrow". That said, I wanted to once again make these arrowheads and projectiles as plausible as I could, deemphasizing the need for magic to make them work. Therefore, they weigh heavily on the tech side in terms of design (while in Thief, one of the inspirations, it was always more 50:50). As the characters who use these arrows and bolts wouldn't have a steady access to magic, I thought it made more sense if the arrowheads and projectiles were mostly grounded in reality, built only with technologies available in an early modern-esque society with emerging industrial era technology. Speaking of similar works, Thief's spiritual cousin Dishonored includes the use of specialised darts for a small, pistol-sized crossbow, and though that wasn't really my inspiration in this case, some people might be reminded of that when looking at the darts. I actually planned to have the knockout dart be more like a modern tranquiliser dart, with 19th century metal syringe stylings, but the existing mechanism used for the arrowheads won out. Who knows, I might still tweak it in the future.
     
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  20. BelfastBrawler Also known as Pub Pal Pete

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    Militz-Karabiner 48 (tl: Militia Karabiner)
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    East Germany, cca 500 produced and converted in total

    After the end of WW2 a large stockpile of VG 1-5 parts are found in East Germany. While the VG 1-5 was a sub par carbine, Militia and Border patrol were in dire need of fire arms. The remaining parts are use to asemble a new batch of rifles which are put in service with the border patrol and the militia. However the 8mm Kurz was an obsolete cartridge and it was a hassle to procure. After the AK47 begins mass production and the USSR gladly exports it to its sattelites, the East German VG 1-5 rifles are converted to much more available 7.62x39mm.

    Externally the barrel has been leghtened the front handguard has been improved with an indentation to allow a better grip. The magazine well has also been heavily enlarged to accept the much bigger AK mags. The ejection port is also visibly longer than on the VG 1-5. A serial number an East German crest are stamped on right side of the mag well.
    Internally the bolt has been modified by increasing it's weight. This due to the gas delaying system being unable to work reliably with 7.62x39mm. Very little gas engages the mechanism and instead the action is delayed predominantly by the bolt. The action has been refitted to allow it to use 7.62x39mm cartridges.

    By 1949 the production and conversion stops and the remaining parts kits and complete rifles are scrapped. A handful are kept as museum pieces. They are replaced by the much better SKS.
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    PS: I know it's not officially called the VG 1-5 but I wasn't gonna write Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr every time i was reffering to it.