Alternate weapons after 1900

ESl was of the opinion it was a variation of a german liquid fuel bomb

liquid oxygen which is -230 degrees celcius and coal dust are mixed together. he said that as far he knew model testing showed it to be lethal for a 700 meter radius... this a similar process that propels the space shuttle or even the v2 rocket. although in the case of rockets the reaction is hypergolic producing intense heat... i don't know how you would have to change the reaction to have it be endothermic but the russians must have figured a way out to do it
 
ESl was of the opinion it was a variation of a german liquid fuel bomb

liquid oxygen which is -230 degrees celcius and coal dust are mixed together. he said that as far he knew model testing showed it to be lethal for a 700 meter radius... this a similar process that propels the space shuttle or even the v2 rocket. although in the case of rockets the reaction is hypergolic producing intense heat... i don't know how you would have to change the reaction to have it be endothermic but the russians must have figured a way out to do it

In that case, it would have been the most terrifying weapon ever built.

The uspide (for lack of a better term) to nukes wasn't just the immediate destruction wrought by the weapons, but the horrific after effects.

Big reason they were only used twice.

Something like this...weapons like this, I don't know if the immediate implications are readily apparent to the users; they think "No radiation contamination, no fallout, no permanent damage to the land or infrastructure, only the total elimination of our enemies."

It's a dangerous mindset; one that nuclear weapons, for better or worse, never afforded their owners.

This is a weapon, if they really did get one to work, was wisely cast aside.
 
In that case, it would have been the most terrifying weapon ever built.

The uspide (for lack of a better term) to nukes wasn't just the immediate destruction wrought by the weapons, but the horrific after effects.

Big reason they were only used twice.

Something like this...weapons like this, I don't know if the immediate implications are readily apparent to the users; they think "No radiation contamination, no fallout, no permanent damage to the land or infrastructure, only the total elimination of our enemies."

It's a dangerous mindset; one that nuclear weapons, for better or worse, never afforded their owners.

This is a weapon, if they really did get one to work, was wisely cast aside.

one of the problems one could find in an endothermic reaction would be how to stop the reaction... as far as i know something of that nature would consume the nitrogen and or oxygen in the air which would suck out the whole ozone layer and atmosphere and create snowball earth. the developers of the manhattan project feared something similar

assuming the soviets ran controlled experiments and were able to successfully weaponize the reaction it would have been a waste. Such a weapon would be almost impossible to deploy due to the cold temporatures needed to maintain the fuels... so i would imagine conventional bombers or submarines are out. the soviets also had no intention of occupying the united states with their weapons... maybe destroying it but not occupation... so why bother with a more complicated weapon that leaves the structures around
 
I dug this up from my files but I must stress I've never seen any credible sources refer to these devices. But if the Russians threatened gas warfare in retaliation there must be something to the whole story?

http://greyfalcon.us/restored/AN INVENTORY OF NAZI SECRET WEAPONS.htm


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D0CE1DC1339E733A2575BC1A9659C946197D6CF
1900 Article on German research into this ordnance.


http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5303653/claims.html

US patent on developing such a device?

Another reference

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/FAULKER FEUERSTURM.htm


This is from my buddy...about the reports of liquid air bomb and russian threats.

This exact story (literally, same wording) appeared initially in a Wunderwaffe book by a Polish intel guy which is expensive and hard to find on amazon for some reason. It is repeated in a book called 'SS brotherhood of the bell' which i have (eBay). I heard the same story, including russian threats to retaliate with gas, from some German guys who are no longer alive. Supposedly references to this thing exist in Nuremberg trial records. I heard of it referred to as 'compression grenade' and being implemented even in 88mm (why didn't they use it for AAA then ???). What i was told was that it destroyed the lungs of air-breathing creatures in 500m radius. I actually had some ideas about it but they are for coffee discussion. The multi-km damage radius described in the story is obviously in excess of even smaller nukes and does not seem realistic. Original refs have no mention of Tesla, who most likely had nothing to do with it.

My guess is that at the time no one could possibly even conceive of such level of destruction from what sounds like a chemical reaction and therefore if the thing happened to work by accident it would have wiped out everyone involved in the test because they would not have thought of keeping far enough away.
 
i meant like just an explosion of fire

You mean an incendiary or explosive weapon? Loads of those around, have been for centuries.

Again, very skeptical on any kind of 'cold bomb'. All the descriptions thus far have been quite physically implausible. Liquid oxygen and coal dust, mixed, should produce a powerful explosion if ignited, for example.
 
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