Alternate WC : Continental Cups are Qualifiers (1962-?). A Football TL

Host for WC 1970 ?

  • Argentina

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Australia

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Colombia

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Japan

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Mexico

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Peru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Five

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
Ah thanks I see, well that messes up things slightly. Let's just say I am not an English football specialist x)
As for England, it wasn't the right time for them to win, let's leave it at that.

1974 :
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USSR (titleholders) and Australia (hosts) are qualified automatically
Via Euro 1968 :
Italy (1st)
Yugoslavia (2nd)
England (3rd)
Bulgaria (QF)
Hungary (QF)
Spain (QF)
France (QF)
Scotland (Top QL - beat Belgium in European Playoff)

Via Copa América 1967 :
Uruguay (1st)
Argentina (2nd)
Chile (3rd)

Via Gold Cup 1969 :
Costa Rica (1st)

Via Asian Cup 1968 :
Iran (1st)

Via African Cup 1970 :
Sudan (1st)

Ohhhhh i realized the mighty Brazil has not qualified to 1970 World Cup ( well, West Germany neither but at that time they dimiss Euro competitions, so they looked for that)
 
Brazil not going to the 1970 world cup is going to change football a lot from what we know it today OTL. Today there is almost no debate the 1970 Brazil team was the best in history, and we are not going to see that at all ITTL.
 
Brazil not going to the 1970 world cup is going to change football a lot from what we know it today OTL. Today there is almost no debate the 1970 Brazil team was the best in history, and we are not going to see that at all ITTL.

It is indeed a major departure point from OTL. Brazil not having won 1970 means one less star but also a lack of faith in the Brazilian squad. With that, many of the 1966-1970 generation will never be well known but that also means :

This can delay Pele's farewell from brazilian team AND perhaps we will have a Pelé vs Cruyff duel in 1974?

that a legend might indeed retire a bit later than expected.
 
Further updates coming tomorrow with the start of the 1970 WC. Also 1978 hosting results gave tie between Argentina and Mexico.
Therefore, RNG decides in Bo5 :
1-50 = Argentina
51-100 = Mexico
RNG1 = 69
RNG2 = 97
RNG3 = 37
RNG4 = 67

Mexico hosts WC1978
 
I just realized that Germany would miss two World Cups in a row. Also the Germans wouldn't dismiss the Euros if it is a qualifier for the WC. So I think the Germans would have played in the first Euros.
 
I just realized that Germany would miss two World Cups in a row. Also the Germans wouldn't dismiss the Euros if it is a qualifier for the WC. So I think the Germans would have played in the first Euros.

The West German football federation took the rule changes as a personal offense, thinking it was made to coerce them into participating and therefore forfeited their seeds for WC 1966 and 1970 as a result by not participating at the Euros on purpose. Ofc it was not welcomed by the players and Gösemann was fired after he made the decision not to send the West German team to Euro 1968.
 
It would be interesting to watch 1978 WC in Mexico and not in Argentina...for political reasons, military wanted to use the Cup as a curtain to hide their crimes, but became more visible than ever...without the WC in Argentina, i dare to say that Junta will have that image that they had in 1976...the "good Junta" , if they compare with Chile..

Footballistically speaking, because argentinian mánager César Luis Menotti was testing players from minor clubs as Kempes or Ardiles, Argentina did not make a good Copa America 1975, so ITTL Argentina, l'm afraid, won't qualify to Mexico 1978
 
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Group A 1970
Sorry for the delay, here comes WC 1970 !
And we start with Group A, where Australia inherit an incredibly weak group consisting of World finalists England, American champions Costa Rica and a weak Bulgarian side. The first game pitted hosts Australia versus 1966 finalists England, and resulted in a clear English victory.
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The second game pitted Costa Rica against Bulgaria, and shocked most as the Costa Rican squad maintained a draw till the final whistle.
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The English continued to roll over the opposition, slamming the Bulgarian squad and rolling to a new 3-1 victory, albeit with a shaky first half.
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Hosts Australia faced Costa Rica in a decisive confrontation and managed to pull off a win, pretty much kicking out the costaricans out of the tourney and taking a first option on the quarterfinals. Only Bulgaria stands in the way of the host nation.
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England finished off their group stage campaign with another win, featuring many substitutes, and make their way towards the quarter-finals basically untested.
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In the decisive game, Australia looked bad against Bulgaria, having conceded two goals. However, a dangerous tackle by Zhechev led to him being sent off the pitch by Mr.Correzza and left Australia with a deficit of a single goal to breach. With reinvigorated spirits, the Australians pushed the Bulgarians over the edge to secure their first ever quarter-finals.
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Group B 1970
Group B was much more competitive, consisting of Euro finalists Yugoslavia, accompanied by south american power Chile, asian champions Iran and refreshed France. Yugoslavia was of course heavily favoured to top the group, but no one could know for sure who could take second.
The first game pitted Chile against Iran, and surprisingly, the Chileans had a hard time piercing the Iranian defense, only scoring one goal against the Persians.
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The second game had European finalists Yugoslavia play a French squad that swapped 5 coaches in less than 4 years. Specialists expected a landslide like one that happened two years prior at Belgrade, but this time France only conceded two goals to the yugoslavian squad.
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The next game had Chile and Yugoslavia play against each other. Again Yugoslavia were predicted to win by a landslide, and again did they win by only a slim margin.
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France also struggled against Iran but thanks to their effective strikers, knocked out Iran from the tournament.
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France and Chile faced each other in what would be known as "the most soporific game of the World Cup", with neither team coming with real chances. France surpassed Chile with a goal by ASSE striker Revelli to go through to the quarters, with little merit.
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In Melbourne the real big game happened. Yet again Yugoslavia was favoured to win by a landslide, and yet again after scoring early they slowed the game down. However, Iran fought back, scoring two goals before the end of the first half. With no options left, Yugoslavia attacked but couldn't stop Iran from coming back every time, resulting in an incredible 5-5 draw, with an epic moment where Yugoslavia finally took the advantage, and Iranese striker Behzadi scoring directly from the center circle after a pass by his teammate.
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And to end the day, we are late to choose the host for WC 1982. Who will it be ?
A. Spain
B. West Germany
C. Italy
Poll closes once the Group Stages finish, which should be by Thursday.
 
I would go for italy as a host. I just feel west germany wouldnt go for it so soon after the olympics in munich and with growing proplems with a left terrorgroup running around in the mid 1970s.
Spain maybe as some extra gift for joining the nato.

On another note the east melbourne cricket ground isnt available anymore in the 1970s it was demolished. The big Stadium is just the "Melbourne cricket ground(MCG)".
Also what i found strange is that group A plays all in one Stadium and group B is split between two cities. If you needed a second city for group B i would say go maybe for newcastle? That would keep each group in one state, if as i suspect you select brisbane and adelaide for the rest of the group games.
 

Coulsdon Eagle

Monthly Donor
A - both Italy and Germany have hosted World Cup Finals, whilst Spain have not and also have good international football history in the European Championships (& memories of that great Real Madrid side).
 
A - both Italy and Germany have hosted World Cup Finals, whilst Spain have not and also have good international football history in the European Championships (& memories of that great Real Madrid side).
Germany still hasn't hosted a WC ^^
1930 Uruguay
1934 Italy
1938 France
1950 Brazil
1954 Switzerland
1958 Sweden
1962 Chile
1966 England
1970 Australia
1974 Netherlands
1978 Mexico
The votes are as of now 2 for Spain A, 2 for West Germany B and 3 for Italy C. Polls closes once the post for Group D is up, which should be tomorrow or Thursday depending on the time I have on my hands. Happy new year everyone !
 
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