Yes, they did inytend to land planes on, eralier trials with kites had suggested issues with trying to land on in the face of funnel exhaust and superstructure eddies but they dont seem to have been listened to
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Question about three turrets forward layouts.
So there is the Atlanta/Dido triple superfiring ones, that's obviously the best for forward firepower, but is probably the worst ones as far as stability is considered (unless you go for destroyer scale armament as in the examples).
The cBa ones, like in Nelsons and a bunch of Japanese heavy cruisers.
And the Cba ones, like the Mogamis.
What are the pros and cons between the latter two? I think the Mogami layout gives better firing arcs.
So there is the Atlanta/Dido triple superfiring ones, that's obviously the best for forward firepower, but is probably the worst ones as far as stability is considered (unless you go for destroyer scale armament as in the examples).
The cBa ones, like in Nelsons and a bunch of Japanese heavy cruisers.
And the Cba ones, like the Mogamis.
What are the pros and cons between the latter two? I think the Mogami layout gives better firing arcs.
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As you say it's the ideal layout all around but has severe limitations when it comes to topweight.
That layout shortens the citadel a bit, but also gives the superfiring gun superior rearward arcs versus having the aft turret superfiring as it is farther away from the bridge superstructure and so can turn back farther. Though your aftermost gun has quite limited arcs.
It's probably the best all around IMHO as it still gives you all guns forward at most angles and all your turrets have useful arcs of fire, though your after arcs aren't great with the aft gun and has a longer citadel as a result of the added length to accommodate the center turret.
Hope that helps
Which begs the question what about abc with no superfiring?
Requires a longer ship as the barrels can't overlap turrets.
Lower top weight without a rased turret as less metal needed and third turret is lower on deck.
Firing arc reduction and gain seems a wash (better at long range, worse at short range)
Requires a longer ship as the barrels can't overlap turrets.
Lower top weight without a rased turret as less metal needed and third turret is lower on deck.
Firing arc reduction and gain seems a wash (better at long range, worse at short range)
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Given that Agincourt managed 7 centre-line turrets and both the Russians and Italians produced dreadnoughts with 4 non-superposed triples, I think abc would have been possible if anyone had wanted it. But by this point the citadel is probably longer than in a conventional aBy and the firing arcs are significantly worse except (maybe) for directly ahead at long range, so it's hard to see why anyone would.
the Midway class had several design proposals (CV-A through I). My Google Fu has failed me and I can't find the designs. USS Midway is proposal CV-E not to be confused with an escort carrier. But I'm still wondering what if the US had gone with a different proposal.
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Midway class fleet aircraft carriers (1945)
The midway class were armoured fleet aircraft carriers with very large air groups designed in 1942 and completed after WW2 has ended. They served for entire cold war as well, fully modernized
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USS Midway Specifications
www.midwaysailor.com
S-511-42
Photo #: S-511-42 Aircraft Carrier Study - Scheme CV-E Preliminary design plan prepared for the General Board during the process that led to the armored flight deck Midway (CVB-41) class. This plan, dated 22 September 1941, depicts a 45,000-ton (standard displacement) 900-foot (between...
thank you, I can't find schemes f through I. can you point me to them?Hello,
Midway class fleet aircraft carriers (1945)
The midway class were armoured fleet aircraft carriers with very large air groups designed in 1942 and completed after WW2 has ended. They served for entire cold war as well, fully modernizedUSS Midway Specifications
www.midwaysailor.comS-511-42
Photo #: S-511-42 Aircraft Carrier Study - Scheme CV-E Preliminary design plan prepared for the General Board during the process that led to the armored flight deck Midway (CVB-41) class. This plan, dated 22 September 1941, depicts a 45,000-ton (standard displacement) 900-foot (between...www.history.navy.mil
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Despite my best efforts, I cannot locate any further references for the USS Midway preliminary designs beyond E. If your local library carries it, I recommend...
U.S. Aircraft Carriers
This companion volume to Friedman's U.S. Destroyers assembles material on the history of the American aircraft carrier from the Langley of 1922 to the controversial nuclear-powered giants. Includes numerous black-and-white photographs and excellent ship plans. ISBN 0-87021-739-9 : $44.95.
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Anyone have any decent alternatives to Navypedia since it is shut down in the US?
One of the players in the 1906 Navies Game dug it up on the wayback machine so you can still access most of it.
It's shut down all over, I guess its in Russia or Ukraine.
It's a great naval weapons resource but in terms of all the ships in one place I have yet to hear of a comparable source to Navypedia on the web.
Its really useful, just for different things than a quick search of the capabilities and outfitting of x ship from y nation like Navypedia.
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MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare
Website about modern warfare, military equipment and defense technology. Information on armored vehicles, tanks, artillery systems, military trucks, aircraft, helicopters, and navy.
www.military-today.com
Navy News Naval Defense Maritime industry equipment - Navy Recognition
Navy Naval News Defense Maritime industry equipment - Navy Recognition
Warships by Decade
Showcasing the various military warship and submarine types organized by decade of commission.
www.militaryfactory.com
Naval News - Global Naval Defense News Coverage
Naval News brings you coverage of the latest naval technology, naval defense shows and events from all over the world.
www.navalnews.com
Haze Gray & Underway - Naval History and Photography
www.hazegray.org
Also, these sites have links, so they could provide more information
