Alternate United States in 30s and 40s.

Consider The Following....

In terms of race relations, remember that the United States would have seen some protests earlier. By 1933, lynchings in the South had fell into mainstream disfavor. But it was a harsh time for African-Americans, in 1935 and 1943, Harlem was struck by race riots. In 1938, in OTL, FDR was forced to withdraw support for ant-lynching legislation because of South Democrat filibustering. In 1941, A. Philip Randolph and Paul Robeson were prepared to launch a March on Washington D.C., to call for civil rights. It was only the insistence of FDR, and the supply of Lend Lease and war-production jobs that prevented the march.
 
Thus for a union of european states, you'd need quite an appeasement of Germany: end of reparations, negotiations about new borders, Austria and Sudetenland to Germany, maybe some colonies back...
Would the French accept such things? If not, I doubt that Germany would be willing to cooperate that much with the western powers. Just to give an example: without nazism, jewish scientist would stay in Germany, German universities would stay among the best in the world. Einstein might point Hindenburgh to the possibility of an atomic bomb. Germany could easily be the world's first nuclear power.

I just don't see how German politics could be so fundamentally changed that they do not only accept the Treaty of Versailles to preserve, but also start a close cooperation with the victory powers of 1918.
Great Britain and France accepted appeasement with Hitler,why not with a democratic Germany (that also would have been very much reasonable that Nazists) And one democratic Germany super power with Hegemony on Europe is very different affair that a nazist Germany.Is probable that United States would not have been interested to European affairs.
 
In case of War Japan would have fight aganist USA,British Commonwealth,France,Germany,Italy,Netherlands..is very improbable.
 
In case of War Japan would have fight aganist USA,British Commonwealth,France,Germany,Italy,Netherlands..is very improbable.
Why all of them? The USA wouldn't necessarily be allied with any of them, and even sans Germany being taken over by the Nazis, Italy became Fascist on its own back in 1921.

What German interests are in the Pacific, anyways?
 
In case of War Japan would have fight aganist USA,British Commonwealth,France,Germany,Italy,Netherlands..is very improbable.
Who says everyone would rush to our aid? The only one of those who I see having a major problem with Japan would be the Dutch (since Japan will need oil if there is an embargo by the US) and maybe the Aussies and New Zealanders if Japan's getting too close to them.
 
Great Britain and France accepted appeasement with Hitler,why not with a democratic Germany (that also would have been very much reasonable that Nazists) And one democratic Germany super power with Hegemony on Europe is very different affair that a nazist Germany.Is probable that United States would not have been interested to European affairs.

Well, Britain accepted it - for some time. France accepted it because Britain wasn't willing to stop the Germans in a war. That's not really "accepting".

Yet would they accept appeasement without the Great Depression?

And then you have to remember that Munich 1938 wouldn't be the last case that Germans demand something! IOTL, Hitler demanded Danzig and West-Prussia. This would be the case in this Timeline, too. And then the colonies...

Finally, the French would never accept hegemony of Germany over continental Europe - democratic or not. The good relations between France and Germany required a second World War that crushed German ambitions and French pride and again it required decades. Even 1990 the French were anxious about German unification - after 40 years of democracy in Germany and 35 years in NATO. ITTL, Germany would be significantly more powerful, and its only about ten years after the Great War, 10 years of democracy - probably with Hindenburg in charge, the old enemy. Why on earth should the Franch accept German dominance ITTL?
 
Why all of them? The USA wouldn't necessarily be allied with any of them, and even sans Germany being taken over by the Nazis, Italy became Fascist on its own back in 1921.

What German interests are in the Pacific, anyways?
All of them,less Germany,had possession in Pacific,in south east asia or in China (Italy had Tien Tsin possession).You are right on Germany.Germany lost its pacific possessions after WW-I.But a new war with Japan could given the occasion to return in
in those places .
 
All of them,less Germany,had possession in Pacific,in south east asia or in China (Italy had Tien Tsin possession).You are right on Germany.Germany lost its pacific possessions after WW-I.But a new war with Japan could given the occasion to return in
in those places .

Of any former German colonies, I think that the Nazis had the least amount of interest in those in the Pacific.
 
Well, Britain accepted it - for some time. France accepted it because Britain wasn't willing to stop the Germans in a war. That's not really "accepting".

Yet would they accept appeasement without the Great Depression?

And then you have to remember that Munich 1938 wouldn't be the last case that Germans demand something! IOTL, Hitler demanded Danzig and West-Prussia. This would be the case in this Timeline, too. And then the colonies...

Finally, the French would never accept hegemony of Germany over continental Europe - democratic or not. The good relations between France and Germany required a second World War that crushed German ambitions and French pride and again it required decades. Even 1990 the French were anxious about German unification - after 40 years of democracy in Germany and 35 years in NATO. ITTL, Germany would be significantly more powerful, and its only about ten years after the Great War, 10 years of democracy - probably with Hindenburg in charge, the old enemy. Why on earth should the Franch accept German dominance ITTL?
In 30s the horrors of World war I were again in minds of all Europeans.I think that with an democratic Germany would have been possible arrive to a compromise.Repubblic of Germany have had a pubblic opinion,free press,political opposition party.And not nasty nazis nuts between the feets.
 
In 30s the horrors of World war I were again in minds of all Europeans.I think that with an democratic Germany would have been possible arrive to a compromise.Repubblic of Germany have had a pubblic opinion,free press,political opposition party.And not nasty nazis nuts between the feets.
So the key to preventing another war is to make Germany, the country at that time thought of as the sole cause of the first one, stronger? I doubt the Anglo-French leaders will see it that way, unless they're appeasers like Chamberlain (which might not happen with no Depression).
 
Repubblic of Germany have had a pubblic opinion,

which was nationalistic and aimed at regaining the power Germany had before the war and regaining the territories Germany had before the war.

free press,

which, again, promoted nationalism and reversal of the "dictate of Versailles".

political opposition party.

Yes. And what were the major opposition parties? Communists, Nazis and far-right conservatives.

Germany was democratic in the twenties, but it was consensus that the "dictate of Versailles" must end, hence Germany must regain its place as a major power. People wanted a united "Reich", hence Danzig, Sudetenland, Austria, Memelland, Eupen-Malmedy, Posen and West-Prussia. Furthermore they want a military upbuild, colonies, fleet...
Neither the French nor the British can accept all these demands.
 
Something else to consider. With no Depression, Europe might return to treating China like pre-WW1, & we see a "scramble for China". Certainly Japan & U.S. had ambitions. It's conceivable, in that situation, there could be interference by Germany, SU, France, & Italy in India (to destabilize British interests in the area), & by U.S., Britain, Germany, SU, France, Italy, & Japan in China... Which has some interesting potential side effects: greater industrialization in India & ROC (thanks to greater investment), and in Japan & Australia (greater investment, & easy access to Indian & ROC marktes...) Also, I'd presume SU would be stronger, & a potential threat to Eastern Europe, Afghanistan, Mongolia, China, & Japan...
 
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