Alternate timeline plan, Jewish exodus to Australia fleeing the Romans.

I am planning to do an alternate timeline on a group/extended family of Jews fleeing the Romans and by somehow getting western Australia. To make this timeline possible we'll just say they had a lot of luck, and make it to Australia and have the supplies to survive and start agriculture.


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I am planning to do an alternate timeline on a group/extended family of Jews fleeing the Romans and by somehow getting western Australia. To make this timeline possible we'll just say they had a lot of luck, and make it to Australia and have the supplies to survive and start agriculture.

First Chapter coming 01/06/15.

Looking forward to it, but it's just as likely as the Carthaginians getting to Brazil escaping the Romans. You have to create some realistic PODs.
 
Looking forward to it, but it's just as likely as the Carthaginians getting to Brazil escaping the Romans. You have to create some realistic PODs.

Well my plan involves this group having some wealth and trying to flee to Ethiopia but due to either pirate of bad weather are blown into the indian ocean and get to Australia.
 
Maybe go to India instead? A bit closer so it's less "Welp, they just spent two months at sea they're dead."

Well I thought of India at first but in this timeline I wanted this group to have a clean slate and start anew and for the Jewish culture to keep going as a temple religion.
 
I don't think a ship in Roman times could make it to Australia. Keep in mind that they have no knowledge of the winds in the that area, the geography, or the capacity for the amount of supplies that would be needed for a viable group.

India is a possibility however. A Roman-era ship could probably reach India by accident.
 
I don't think a ship in Roman times could make it to Australia. Keep in mind that they have no knowledge of the winds in the that area, the geography, or the capacity for the amount of supplies that would be needed for a viable group.

India is a possibility however. A Roman-era ship could probably reach India by accident.

Roman merchant sailing vessels were capable of sailing the length of the med from Beirut to Gibraltar which is 3732km, and this is with a full cargo and without needing additional supplies. The distance from Eilat to Perth is 10924km which is about 3 times the distance, so with a bit luck they would be able to get to Australia with some supplies left.

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It's borderline unrealistic- getting to Australia in that era requires a fair amount of luck - but seems like an interesting idea. I look forward to seeing where this goes. Subscribed!
 
It's borderline unrealistic- getting to Australia in that era requires a fair amount of luck - but seems like an interesting idea. I look forward to seeing where this goes. Subscribed!

No, it's not, It requires butterflies the size of fricking Mothra. Outside the Aborigines no-one knows that Oz exists and the chances of getting there on a Roman-era ship are exactly zero. That's because the prevailing winds in the Southern Hemisphere tend to be East to West. Plus there is no way that there can be enough food on board to cross the Indian Ocean. Now, a Jewish settlement in Kenya or somewhere South of there, no problem. Oz? Nope.
 
I agree with those who say Australia would be ASB. Too, too far. You want someplace far away (but not ASB far), isolated and with a decent climate for Jewish refugees to settle and rebuild, I say Madagascar. It would be uninhabiterd or barely inhabited at this time.
 
No, it's not, It requires butterflies the size of fricking Mothra. Outside the Aborigines no-one knows that Oz exists and the chances of getting there on a Roman-era ship are exactly zero. That's because the prevailing winds in the Southern Hemisphere tend to be East to West. Plus there is no way that there can be enough food on board to cross the Indian Ocean. Now, a Jewish settlement in Kenya or somewhere South of there, no problem. Oz? Nope.

You haven't taken the monsoon into your calculations, during the monsoon period the wind direction changes to a easternly one. Combined with the southerly oceans currents around the equator a ship could go to Oz.
 
For all those saying its ASB there was/is a timeline about the Mongols reaching Central America which was allowed to continue. I'm looking forward to seeing which direction this timeline goes in.
 

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No, it's not, It requires butterflies the size of fricking Mothra. Outside the Aborigines no-one knows that Oz exists and the chances of getting there on a Roman-era ship are exactly zero. That's because the prevailing winds in the Southern Hemisphere tend to be East to West. Plus there is no way that there can be enough food on board to cross the Indian Ocean. Now, a Jewish settlement in Kenya or somewhere South of there, no problem. Oz? Nope.

It's been done...;)

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Give Ameck16 a chance, it may not have happened in otl but could have done, with luck and the right conditions.
 
It's a unique idea, but Europeans didn't reach Australia until the 1600s. Even the idea of "Terra Australis" wasn't even accepted with everybody believing there were dragons on the unexplored (to Europeans) parts of Earth, until the Age of Exploration and Columbus' voyage inspired others to navigate the globe : you have to have an unrealistic advancement in navigation for this to be possible, and a sudden discovery of the New World to inspire these voyages.
 
For all those saying its ASB there was/is a timeline about the Mongols reaching Central America which was allowed to continue. I'm looking forward to seeing which direction this timeline goes in.

How did they reach Central America?


Anyway, I also think this is ASB, at least in its current format. The best way to do with I think is to A. have better improvements in naval technology. This would require an earlier POD. Say, the Ptolemies get more interested in the sea trade with India for example, and attempt to set up some trade outposts there (not ASB, Roman and Greek sea merchants did frequent the area). So when the Romans come along, there's a budding network and outposts in India, and naval technology is at least slightly improved.


From there have these Jews decide fleeing to these outposts and setting up proper colonies there is the best course of action. Have them maintain some kind of maritime tradition, and over time expand their connections to Indonesia and from there it wouldn't be too hard for them to discover Australia.
 
Wasn't there a TL which featured some pre-Christianity Hebrews suddenly teleported to Australia (or Oceania, I can't recall) and developed in this circumstances?
 
Wasn't there a TL which featured some pre-Christianity Hebrews suddenly teleported to Australia (or Oceania, I can't recall) and developed in this circumstances?

New Zealand, as they are entering the promised land. Culture stagnates for several centuries due to lack of bronze, but when iron is discovered, Yisreal (aka "Jew Zealand") begins to advance pretty rapidly. It hasn't gotten much farther that that, but is still active.
 
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