Alternate Territorial Disputes

North West Frontier Province/State: Afghanistan, India and Pakistan

Timeline: 1947 -

History:

In 1947, the North West Frontier Province voted by a slim margin of 50.1% to become a part of Pakistan. But Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and the Pro India Red Shirts uncovered the Pakistani plan to not allow pro India people to vote in many places and this was sent to the Indian government and they contested the same in a war with Pakistan over Kashmir. Managing to take take Kashmir and nearly one-third of the NWFP, India was brought on the negotiation table by the British and the result was status quo post bellum. In 1950, the Afghans proclaimed that NWPF was Afghan area that was taken by the British unlawfully and they demanded the same back Going to war with with Pakistan, they managed to make some inroads and managed to take nearly 25000 sq.km of wilderness before being stopped.
From that time the area has been under occupation of all three nations.

Below a map:
Orange - India
Red - Pakistan
Green - Afghanistan

Disputed area:
Brown - India
Reddish Brown - Pakistan
Light Green - Afghanistan

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That sir, is quite beautiful.

I especially like the revelation that MS Paint has taken such a partisan position on the Danzig question


Thanks :D

and as for my German Danzig Plans, well, in the words of every Scooby Doo villain ever "-and I would have got away with it had it not been for those meddling fonts!"

I am surprised you did not mention the issues with the Oder-Neisse line and whether the Czechs, Poles, or Germans get Silesia.

To be honest, since Germany today pretty much accepts the Oder-Neisse line, I doubt that this ATL would radically change that. and I didn't want to have too big of a POD from what we had in OTL. If Stalin didn't expel any Germans from the areas of eastern Germany that were to go to Poland then I think there would be issues in regards to Silesia, but after reading some of the posts on this forum about that very question, I just don't see Stalin not driving the Germans out. However, a small change in regards to Kaliningrad is not out of the question, so I just focused on that.
 
War of Northern Liberation (in IR), Northern Ireland Conflict (In UK), The Struggles (in NI) 1920-1973

Territory disputed: Northern Ireland (known as Ulster, the Occupied Counties, and the Six Counties)

Parties Disputing: The Irish Republic and United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

History:
The Irish Civil War is won by the IRA, a government under de Valera backed by military strong men Liam Lynch and Frank Aiken. They claim that as long as Northern Ireland is part of the UK there will be no peace there for a need for a military emergency government. The IRA operates a Northern Branch as a part of the National army, while shootings and bombings are intense the UK government is unwilling to invade Ireland. UK did not recognize the Irish Republic and in a spite of them the UK keeps "and Ireland" in their formal name. In Northern Ireland the loyalists are given a free hand to deal with IRA terrorism, the RUC becomes basically a military force filled with nearly all healthy protestant male of military age. The RUC uses overwhelming force crushes the IRA over a 3 year war and pushes a large number of Catholics out. de Valera never gives up the claim on Northern Ireland, launching cross border raids and supporting terror attacks in Ulster. The force of the RUC keeps the IRA from ever reforming in any real way in Northern Ireland. The IRA-Sinn Fein Government is at first radically Socialist, attacking the rich and violently redistributing land, leading to Anglo-Irish, upper class Irish and Moderates/Free-Staters to leave for the UK and the USA. During the 1940s-50s de Valera swung to the right voicing support for Germany and becoming Isolationist after the war


outcome: in 1973 aging Irish Dictator de Valera launched a full out attack on Northern Ireland, the attack was disorganized and clearly poorly planed. The heavy armored units of the RUC mostly hold the IRA off, an enrages UK Government launches major counterattack. The IRA falls apart and the Royal Army finds itself driving deep into the South finding a poor and underdeveloped state with de Valera's face nearly every where. after Occupying Ireland the UK bends to public opinion in the UK and Ireland and hold a referendum on status, in the UK 67% of Brits vote to bring Ireland back into the Union and 92% of Irish vote for it. To this date it is unclear why the Irish Republic attack Ulster, though many Historians place the blame at the feet of Neil Blaney
 
North West Frontier Province/State: Afghanistan, India and Pakistan

Timeline: 1947 -

History:

In 1947, the North West Frontier Province voted by a slim margin of 50.1% to become a part of Pakistan. But Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and the Pro India Red Shirts uncovered the Pakistani plan to not allow pro India people to vote in many places and this was sent to the Indian government and they contested the same in a war with Pakistan over Kashmir. Managing to take take Kashmir and nearly one-third of the NWFP, India was brought on the negotiation table by the British and the result was status quo post bellum. In 1950, the Afghans proclaimed that NWPF was Afghan area that was taken by the British unlawfully and they demanded the same back Going to war with with Pakistan, they managed to make some inroads and managed to take nearly 25000 sq.km of wilderness before being stopped.
From that time the area has been under occupation of all three nations.

Below a map:
Orange - India
Red - Pakistan
Green - Afghanistan

Disputed area:
Brown - India
Reddish Brown - Pakistan
Light Green - Afghanistan

That is almost a OTL territorial dispute. :D
Didn't King Mohammad Zahir Shah claim the NW Territories of Pakistan as part of Afghanistan?
 
The Busoga Dispute (1879-1963)

Territory disputed: Busoga Province (~70x30 mile strip on north shore of Lake Itasca)

Parties Disputing: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Republic of the French; Republic of Kenya and Republic of Bugande

History:
The Treaty of Paris in 1879 established the boundary between British East Africa and the French protectorates in Bugande and Somalie (in part) as "a line sixty miles due north of Kismayo, proceeding due west until its intersection with Lake Itasca; thence proceeding south along the shore of said lake". Unfortunately, as was later discovered, that line did not, in fact, intersect Lake Itasca, rather passing a few miles north of it. Following the War of the Brazilian Succession (1903-1909), the former British East Africa was transferred to French sovereignty, but it retained its separate administration.

With both sides of the unclear border under French rule, the impetus to divide the territory definitively was lessened, and so the status of the seventy-mile-long "Busoga Province" was ignored for some fifty years.

Outcome:
In 1962, the French pulled out of Kenya, having already granted Bugande independence. The elected Chief Executive of Kenya, Charles Mboya, lost no time in centralizing power, and soon sent the army into the disputed region. Maximal Kenyan claims reached the Nile, and Mboya took advantage of weak Bugandan resistance to make good on those claims. The Bugandan government signed away the entirety of Busoga in the 1963 peace treaty, and although various successors have made noise sabout the seizure being illegal the actual Bugandan interest in the territory has long since waned away.
 
Orkney / Shetland

How about a Orkney & Shetland Liberation Army, trying to get union back with ancient ties to Norway?

The islands were part of a dowry back in the middle ages(?).

OSLA take action by disrupting oil supplies into and out of both sets of islands. UK Govt (either OTL or an ATL one) takes action. Conflict spirals.

Noticed a previous post mentioned Dal Riadans speaking Norn. This is the name of the dialect spoken by the Orcadians as well.

Total lunacy I know but there you go...:eek:
 
How about a Orkney & Shetland Liberation Army, trying to get union back with ancient ties to Norway?

The islands were part of a dowry back in the middle ages(?).

OSLA take action by disrupting oil supplies into and out of both sets of islands. UK Govt (either OTL or an ATL one) takes action. Conflict spirals.

Noticed a previous post mentioned Dal Riadans speaking Norn. This is the name of the dialect spoken by the Orcadians as well.

Total lunacy I know but there you go...:eek:

You know, that would make a very interesting TL
 
Well, presumably the dispute should not be one that exists or existed in OTL already.

A few suggestions:

Italian nationalists claim the Italophone Swiss canton of Ticino as part of "Italia Irredenta". Oops, they actually did.

Try again.

...

Sweden disputes with Russia and later Finland over the Aland Islands.

Sorry... but the dispute between Sweden and Finland for the Aland Islands is historical. It's also relatively famous, being one of the few examples of peaceful arbitration by the League of Nations that ended successfully.

Try again.
 
Republic of Newfoundland and Republic of Quebec

In 1949 Newfoundland's pro-confederation politician, Joey Smallwoood, was dealt a devastating defeat when Newfoundland voted against confederation with Canada by the slimmest of margins (50.001 voted for dominion status as opposed to confederation). The defeat infuriated London, which had already promised it would not offer any financial assistance to what it saw as an economic backwater if they voted against confederation. However, angered at the refusal to "listen to reason", several politicians in London and Ottawa indicated that the vote opened up renegotiation in regards to the 1927 border resolution between Quebec and Labrador. The threat badly weakened the confederation movement and infuriated Smallwood, who saw the tone of the discussion in Newfoundland radically change after the perceived "bullying from London and Toronto." Newfoundland began to lash back with incendiary counter threats, including the threat to "leave the Commonwealth". A handful of Newfoundland politicians even suggested admission into the United States, much to the chagrin of London. With tensions rising between Canada, Britain, and Newfoundland, the United States intervened on behalf of the Newfies. Angry that a minor dispute involving a fishing colony was turning into the biggest threat to the western shores of NATO, President Truman authorized a "Marshall-esque" aid package to Newfoundland in return for guarantees of the use of military airfields and NATO support. The tensions quickly cooled after that, and Newfoundland and Canada soon returned to friendly relations (although confederation would never again be on the table). But the damage had been done: in the course of the anti-confederation fervor in Newfoundland, both Canada and Newfoundland agreed on one thing: the 1927 border dispute resolution was no longer valid. It would open the door to radical claims from the extreme fringe in both Canada and Newfoundland, but widely was downplayed by the central government in Ottawa and St. John's, even after Newfoundland formally declared independence in 1960. When Quebec voted to cede from Canada in 1980 the border dispute began to resurface. Quebec claimed large portions of Southern Labrador, while Newfoundland claimed that the 1912 Quebec Boundary Expansion Act was also invalid and that much of Northern Quebec (which made up the formet district of Ungava) should be allotted to Labrador. Although the border dispute has never flared up into any serious hostilities, remaining a “disagreement between friends" (as it was famously called by Joe Clark in 1980), it still has proved to be a sticking point in regards to relations between Quebec and Newfoundland. Most notably, the Lower Churchill Project, a hydro electric deal that Newfoundland turned away from at the last minute in 1982, citing the refusal of Quebec to renounce claims on southern Labrador.

Border claimed by The Republic of Quebec:

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Border claimed by the Republic of Newfoundland, with the disputed former District of Ungava in red:

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