Alternate/surviving states, kingdoms and empires

Anglo-Danish/Scandinavian realm would be pretty interesting if it could stay united after Cnut's death for a long time.
 

SinghKing

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One of the ones which I've never seen anywhere, but which I'd really like to see someone develop, would be a TL where the Kingdom of Nri survives, giving rise to an Nri Empire in which the eze-Nri effectively becomes West Africa's equivalent to the Pope. It'd be a lot easier if later eze-Nri elected to lessen their religious commitment to pacifism; but it'd be a very interesting and challenging AHC to pull this off while still maintaining their religious pacifism.
 
I think Coptic Egypt in general could be a lot of fun.

Rome, obviously. Of the Byzantine variant.

A Holy Roman Empire centered in Frankfurt encompassing French, German, and Italian lands.
 
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=335528

I got maps :) I think I'm going to do one more in this series, ~1890

How did the Byzantines get so screwed when they were doing so well up until Islam? Zoroastrianism was getting weaker and Persia would have rapidly become majority Christian sects without Islam. In fact, that's part of why Islam was able to convert so easily in the area, they were supported by Nestorians who adapted to Islam.
 

Delvestius

Banned
How did the Byzantines get so screwed when they were doing so well up until Islam? Zoroastrianism was getting weaker and Persia would have rapidly become majority Christian sects without Islam. In fact, that's part of why Islam was able to convert so easily in the area, they were supported by Nestorians who adapted to Islam.

In this TL the Arabs waste all their strength against Byzantium, making them week against Persian/Egyptian counter attack. Though I should read more into Nestorianism and the contemporary religious dynamics of Persia to see what is most likely. Thanks for your suggestions!
 
In this TL the Arabs waste all their strength against Byzantium, making them week against Persian/Egyptian counter attack. Though I should read more into Nestorianism and the contemporary religious dynamics of Persia to see what is most likely. Thanks for your suggestions!

That doesn't make all that much sense, considering the Arabs would have to fight Egypt or Persia before they could reach the Byzantines... but it's a cool idea, as long as you explain it fully.
 

Delvestius

Banned
That doesn't make all that much sense, considering the Arabs would have to fight Egypt or Persia before they could reach the Byzantines... but it's a cool idea, as long as you explain it fully.

Why's that? While Mesopotamia was under the Persian sphere, The Levant, as well as Egypt, were under control of the Byzantines themselves, and it was Byzantine Syria that the Muslims took first IOTL.
 
Why's that? While Mesopotamia was under the Persian sphere, The Levant, as well as Egypt, were under control of the Byzantines themselves, and it was Byzantine Syria that the Muslims took first IOTL.

How would the Arabs invade Anatolia, the part of Byzantium that really mattered, with a hostile Egypt and Persia on their flanks?
 

Delvestius

Banned
How would the Arabs invade Anatolia, the part of Byzantium that really mattered, with a hostile Egypt and Persia on their flanks?

Egypt isn't hostile from the star, they take advantage of the situation of an Arab-Byzantine war to declare independence. After a few more decades of the two belligerents meatgrinding away in Hatay after botched Arab offensives of Constantinople, the Parthians, who are in a precarious position but could probably hold on without the Bedouin threat, gain favor by defeating the Muslims in a series of skirmishes wresting control of gulf coastline. After the predominately nomadic zealots loose their advantageous mobility and fervor, an enterprising Coptic leader sizes the holy land and pays homage to Alexandria.
 
For China...

1) A surviving Xin Dynasty (OTL lasted for around 20 years in the 1st Century AD) would have been awesome. Wang Mang basically tried to implement a economic system in China that was a mixture of state property (all farmland was to belong to the state), proto-central banking (controlling the price of inflation by buying/selling excess goods), and free enterprise (low-interest state lending to entrepreneurs and merchants). Less-admirably, the guy also thought it was a good idea to issue 28 types of currency in the Empire. Truly a man born way before his times.

2) A Northern Song Dynasty under Wang Anshi would have been interesting as well. Again, the guy tried to redefine the role of the Song state in China by making it responsible for regulating wages/prices, promoting economic business and creating a mini-welfare state of sorts.

3) Any surviving Warring State of the Warring States period, which could have provided an alternate counterpoint, cultural and otherwise, to the Qin Dynasty (though not likely, considering the pressures of the international environment at the time).

4) A successful Taiping Heavenly Kingdom would also be interesting, if only to see how the 'Christian' zealot leaders handle themselves in the midst of a largely Confucian populace.
 

Delvestius

Banned
4) A successful Taiping Heavenly Kingdom would also be interesting, if only to see how the 'Christian' zealot leaders handle themselves in the midst of a largely Confucian populace.

This would be cool really cool. Maybe Hong could proselytize and create an independent Jiangsu.
 
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