Alternate super-heros/comics

I suspect a surviving CSA wouldn't have Westerns (less frontier) but would have a strong surviving Southern genre (per "Gone With the Wind").

I do agree, in a Nazi world, Xmen ("zhmen":p) would rep the dominant group: Avengers or Justice Machine, not oppressed minority. In fact, they'd probably be more like "Teen JM" than Xmen as we know them. Sentinels as good guys?:eek:

It's also true the U.S. (& less so Canada) were virtually unique in creating superheroes. I have a hunch that's both because the creators were, in the main, Jewish, & because they had the freedom to imagine minority (ie, Jewish) heroes: not for nothing does Superman blend in so easily & nobody notices...:rolleyes: Nor, I suspect, is the oppressed minority theme entirely accidental.

That said, what about Iron Man-type heroes in Germany & Russia? Seems to me the internal market of Russia is big enough.
Batman without his sense of morals.
That's GA Bats, isn't it? Or Rorschach?

I suspect a Nazi-controlled country wouldn't tolerate freelances, even less so than the U.S. (where there are actually mask laws in quite a few places, to prevent people going out in public in disguises; they were enacted to counter KKK...)
 
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Well,
i tell you a secret......

Superman came in Italy in 1939 (July 2 1939),in full fascist era, only a year after Action comics #1 (June 1938).
We called it "Ciclone,l'uomo d'acciaio" ( "Cyclone,the man of steel").
The publication ended in september 29 1940.

http://www.metropoliscomics.com/load_feature.php?article_id=223&type=feature&action=view

http://www.glamazonia.it/board/t-generazioni-70-anni-di-superman-in-italia-2

http://www.glamazonia.it/old/articoli/archeo1.htm

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In a surviving nazi Germany, superhero comics would be outlawed (if they even forbid Walt Disney, what will they do with comics drawn and written by Jews?), and only some high-rank nazis will secretly read them. Although, in the long run...

Obligatory Chaos TL mentioning: For TTL I invented an unnamed superhero fighting against three villains: The Froschbär [1], the Sk'x'x [2] and the X-Phantom [3].

[1] lit: frog-bear. He's supposed to look like a short man with a fat, hairy body, a big mouth and long fingers. Kinda Penguin-like.
[2] An extraterrestrial villain, looking like an attractive woman in a black-yellow speckled fire salamander costume. (The name's pronounced like "Skixix".)
[3] A rather conventional comic villain, with a black mask and a costume in black and yellow too. I have no idea whether there's a connection to the Sk'x'x.
 
I would kill for a Red-Son style take on a true Nazi Superman. Not a Superman-ish asshole, but, say he landed in Bavaria instead of Kansas..

Best part is that we get to keep the S on his chest. Well, maybe more than one S, if you catch my drift..

Batman...hm. Batman would also, I think, be a good Waffen-SS agent. What's scarier than Batman? Batman without his sense of morals. Have fun sleeping tonight.

Actually, that IS one of the world's in the new DC Multiverse. Superman is Ubermensch, Batman is Fledermaus, etc. etc.

Superman is still Superman though. He understands that this 'utopia' was built on the suffering of millions and has resigned himself to just trying to make this world as decent as he can.
 
In a surviving nazi Germany, superhero comics would be outlawed (if they even forbid Walt Disney, what will they do with comics drawn and written by Jews?), and only some high-rank nazis will secretly read them. Although, in the long run...

Obligatory Chaos TL mentioning: For TTL I invented an unnamed superhero fighting against three villains: The Froschbär [1], the Sk'x'x [2] and the X-Phantom [3].

[1] lit: frog-bear. He's supposed to look like a short man with a fat, hairy body, a big mouth and long fingers. Kinda Penguin-like.
[2] An extraterrestrial villain, looking like an attractive woman in a black-yellow speckled fire salamander costume. (The name's pronounced like "Skixix".)
[3] A rather conventional comic villain, with a black mask and a costume in black and yellow too. I have no idea whether there's a connection to the Sk'x'x.
Hitler loved Disney comics, so they'd be quite popular, plus the "Aryan' archetype would be represented in superhero comics as a sort of propaganda tool.
 
I don't know, couldn't you just alter her mythological origin a tad? Give Wonder Woman more of a Norse influence?

I doubt there'd be very many female superheroes in a Nazi world, given how much they want women to stay in the kitchen. The idea of a strong, independent woman who fights against injustice side by side men.. wouldn't really work, no?
 
I doubt there'd be very many female superheroes in a Nazi world, given how much they want women to stay in the kitchen. The idea of a strong, independent woman who fights against injustice side by side men.. wouldn't really work, no?

Well, I imagine that there would probably be some superheroines who took the classic hostage-bait for the man to rescue/romantic interest route.
 
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