Alternate Stargate TV spinoffs

Corbell Mark IV · Jan 25, 2010

WI in the Sci-fi channel produced national franchise shows of Stargate?

Specifically I was imaging a Japanese show based on a Japanese team(s). Or even whole gate/base.

How would the show likely be altered inorder to be more appealing to the Japanese audiance?

Based on my limited exposure to Japanese aimne I was wondering about:

Armor (powered or not)

Cyborgs (sexy and not)

Robots (perhaps gaint)

Younger cast?

More ship based action?

What type of differant aliens?

Any ideas on national/regional teams/franchises for other markets welcome, also (England, Russia, China, Korea, Nato?)

Comments?

A.M. Turtle · Jan 25, 2010

Perhaps have it be like the Atlantis expedition only instead of it being run by Americans have the (insert nationality) be in charge.

varyar · Jan 25, 2010

A show about a British SG team would be pretty cool. Themes would be playing second fiddle to the Americans (without being obnoxious about it from either angle) and adjusting to the tremendous changes in the galaxy with the fall of the Goa'uld and extinction of the Asgard. Exploration is still important, but now the real game is establishing a solid human presence (commercial, military and diplomatic) across the stars. Around season 2 or 3, full disclosure.

Possible team make-up:

The Leader: a RAF Flight Lieutenant. Wanted to be an astronaut until she found out about the Stargate. Now her dream is to be captain of Britain's first starship. One day... The by-the-book type (within reason) of the group.

The Big Guy: A former Ori footsoldier who's gone completely native. The others are constantly working to make sure he doesn't turn into a caricature of a chav. Hiding some kind of sorta-sinister secret.

The Humanities Person: a Cambridge educated anthropologist. More interested in the advanced human off-shoot cultures than former Goa'uld slave societies based on Ancient Culture of the Week.

The Science Person: another civilian, this one an Oxford doctorate holder. Fixated on putting to use all the alien gizmos SGC teams have been bringing back for the last 10+ years. Often butting heads with the Americans and the IOC and their slowly-slowly-slowly approach to alien technology.

Redem · Jan 25, 2010

A show where the stargate program is revealed to the public

Johnestauffer · Jan 25, 2010

Who will the next 'bad guy' be?
We have already beaten the G"oald and the Ori.

Maybe on approach - Alpha Site loses contact with Earth and is left on it's own (Oops - we are already doing that in the Universe)

yourworstnightmare · Jan 25, 2010

I think both Atlantis and Universe are good, so I don't care for any Stargate alt. shows.

A.M. Turtle · Jan 25, 2010

Redem said:
A show where the stargate program is revealed to the public

Why? The Air-force has hid it quite well and as soon as this is known about by the public you know for a fact some congressmen are going to say the program is pork and more efforts should be in the middle east.

The Doctor · Jan 25, 2010

I can see where other governments would probably disclose something like this before the U.S. ever would.

Corbell Mark IV · Jan 25, 2010

varyar said:
A show about a British SG team would be pretty cool. Themes would be playing second fiddle to the Americans (without being obnoxious about it from either angle) and adjusting to the tremendous changes in the galaxy with the fall of the Goa'uld and extinction of the Asgard. Exploration is still important, but now the real game is establishing a solid human presence (commercial, military and diplomatic) across the stars. Around season 2 or 3, full disclosure.

Possible team make-up:

The Leader: a RAF Flight Lieutenant. Wanted to be an astronaut until she found out about the Stargate. Now her dream is to be captain of Britain's first starship. One day... The by-the-book type (within reason) of the group.

The Big Guy: A former Ori footsoldier who's gone completely native. The others are constantly working to make sure he doesn't turn into a caricature of a chav. Hiding some kind of sorta-sinister secret.

The Humanities Person: a Cambridge educated anthropologist. More interested in the advanced human off-shoot cultures than former Goa'uld slave societies based on Ancient Culture of the Week.

The Science Person: another civilian, this one an Oxford doctorate holder. Fixated on putting to use all the alien gizmos SGC teams have been bringing back for the last 10+ years. Often butting heads with the Americans and the IOC and their slowly-slowly-slowly approach to alien technology.

I like the characters!

Oh, and I put it in post 1900 and used past tense because I was thinking more of what they might have done during Stargate, before spinoffs, just because they seem to have written themselves into somewhat of a corner with the over the top tech they have at the end of Alantis.

Sorry I wasn't clearer on that, but if your ideas/comments are more Stargate Universe timeframe please don't hold back on that account.

Redem · Jan 25, 2010

TimelineExplorer said:
Why? The Air-force has hid it quite well and as soon as this is known about by the public you know for a fact some congressmen are going to say the program is pork and more efforts should be in the middle east.

Well I was thinking more along the line of Earth being stuck in somekind of major conflict with some aliens powers and that one strike directly and sucessfully at earth to the point that hiding the whole stargate thing or at least the technology can't be done anymore

Sargon · Jan 25, 2010

If it's British, it'll probably be the Royal Navy, not the RAF that runs the first starship. You can bet at least the navy will lobby very heavily to be the ones to run it.

And it ideally should be called HMS Warspite (like in my Stargate/Star Wars crossover story).

Oh yeah, and no bloody Asgard die-off cop out by the damn writers.

We'll find a way to bring them back in the British version.

Sargon

A.M. Turtle · Jan 25, 2010

Redem said:
Well I was thinking more along the line of Earth being stuck in somekind of major conflict with some aliens powers and that one strike directly and sucessfully at earth to the point that hiding the whole stargate thing or at least the technology can't be done anymore

Wasn't there a episode where in SG-1 Daniel goes to an alternate reality where a G'oald fleet (can't remember who) enter Earth's orbit so the government comes clean about the program and causes panic?

Redem · Jan 25, 2010

TimelineExplorer said:
Wasn't there a episode where in SG-1 Daniel goes to an alternate reality where a G'oald fleet (can't remember who) enter Earth's orbit so the government comes clean about the program and causes panic?

Well if I recall the Goa'uld ship where blowing the crap out of Earth in that world, so I think that was the cause of the panic

and well the complication from going to public would make a good show if you ask me

Corbell Mark IV · Jan 25, 2010

Sargon said:
If it's British, it'll probably be the Royal Navy, not the RAF that runs the first starship. You can bet at least the navy will lobby very heavily to be the ones to run it.

And it ideally should be called HMS Warspite (like in my Stargate/Star Wars crossover story).

Oh yeah, and no bloody Asgard die-off cop out by the damn writers.

We'll find a way to bring them back in the British version.

Sargon

Agreed!

Perhaps the English could have a faction of Asgardians in stasis (using the virtual reality community software we saw in that one alantis episode).

GreatScottMarty · Jan 25, 2010

TimelineExplorer said:
Wasn't there a episode where in SG-1 Daniel goes to an alternate reality where a G'oald fleet (can't remember who) enter Earth's orbit so the government comes clean about the program and causes panic?

yes, end of the first season. also Sam goes to alternate universe in season 9 or 10 playing around with that Merlin's cloak thingy.

I like the British idea. The Russians would be good too. I think the SG series operated in some kind of alt world anyway. I recognize its fiction so anything game and its sci-fi so really anything is game. But it I mean how did Russians operate an SG program anyway? The sort of cold war rivalry they have going with Russians in the background of SG-1 was always kind of odd. Granted the movie came out in 93? and the show is set starting at +1 year from the movie but always struck me as kinda weird.

yourworstnightmare · Jan 25, 2010

A French SG team full of cowards that surrender all the time would be amusing parody.

Yeah, I know I am trolling. I will end now...

alphaboi867 · Jan 25, 2010

Redem said:
A show where the stargate program is revealed to the public

That would be interesting. Maybe instead of focusing on military/scientific/diplomatic it could focus on newly authorized "tourist" program that would take uber-rich Taur'i on off-world holidays.

Sargon · Jan 25, 2010

Corbell Mark IV said:
Agreed!

Perhaps the English could have a faction of Asgardians in stasis (using the virtual reality community software we saw in that one alantis episode).

Yep, there's that, and there's also the Asgard Core given installed on the Odyssey in Unending. As that contains all Asgard knowledge, and we know the Asgard are capable of uploading and downloading in order to transfer clone bodies, it's reasonable to assume they uploaded all of themselves to the Core. Restricted to being avatars within the Core, we only need to be able to solve the cloning issue, perhaps using the Ancient Database, then downloading them into new bodies, and they will be back. With use of the Time Dilation device, they can rebuild their civilisation in the blink of our eyes, and be back as they were with a short time in relative terms.

Thor shall rise again!

Besides, we must have Hermiod in the British version. His sarcasm would go well with ours.

Sargon

Corbell Mark IV · Jan 25, 2010

GreatScottMarty said:
yes, end of the first season. also Sam goes to alternate universe in season 9 or 10 playing around with that Merlin's cloak thingy.

I like the British idea. The Russians would be good too. I think the SG series operated in some kind of alt world anyway. I recognize its fiction so anything game and its sci-fi so really anything is game. But it I mean how did Russians operate an SG program anyway? The sort of cold war rivalry they have going with Russians in the background of SG-1 was always kind of odd. Granted the movie came out in 93? and the show is set starting at +1 year from the movie but always struck me as kinda weird.

Really? Rivals forced to work together against an evil that threatens them both? While still jockeying for postion and/or advantage?

I mean the US and the USSR have played that game before.

How would you have that present that alliance?

Corbell Mark IV · Jan 25, 2010

Sargon said:
Yep, there's that, and there's also the Asgard Core given installed on the Odyssey in Unending. As that contains all Asgard knowledge, and we know the Asgard are capable of uploading and downloading in order to transfer clone bodies, it's reasonable to assume they uploaded all of themselves to the Core. Restricted to being avatars within the Core, we only need to be able to solve the cloning issue, perhaps using the Ancient Database, then downloading them into new bodies, and they will be back. With use of the Time Dilation device, they can rebuild their civilisation in the blink of our eyes, and be back as they were with a short time in relative terms.

Thor shall rise again!

Besides, we must have Hermiod in the British version. His sarcasm would go well with ours.

Sargon

Mmm, uploading/downloading technology...

I have a soft spot for such.

For obvious reasons of course!