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It's been done. Ever read John Ringo and Tom Kratman's Watch on the Rhine?
Alternate SS Divisions
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It's been done. Ever read John Ringo and Tom Kratman's Watch on the Rhine?
I know thats where I was getting that from, I gave it to a friend sadly and he's a dumb ass and I'm sure he lost it
I loved that book so very muchI know thats where I was getting that from, I gave it to a friend sadly and he's a dumb ass and I'm sure he lost it
As did I. Most of the rest of the board however....
As did I. Most of the rest of the board however....
it's brain candy any one who reads too much into is too up-tight for the real world, If I a gay-Jewish Socialist can get over the SS come back so can every one else.
Hercule Poirot
Banned
Probably the Kuomintang (there was lots of Chinese-German cooperation for a while). Considering Nazi ideology I suspect it'd be called "Qin Shi Huangdi" or "Tsao Tsao".
MarshalBraginsky
Banned
What about an "SS Division Yamato" consisting of Japanese volunteers? I'm sure they'd be able to fight somewhere, although I may have read somewhere that when the Allied forces invaded Normandy, they may have captured some Korean soldiers wearing German uniform. Of course, these Korean soldiers were pressganged into German service while fighting for the Red Army. How about an SS Division Hanguk/Joseon/Gouryeo?
RousseauX
Donor
Hitler thought Americans were barbarians too: something about how Germany has so many opera houses and America has decadent culture or w/eSoldiers of Anglo-Saxon stock are one thing, but the actual countries were seen as 'people without space' because the population density was too small (why this mattered so much to the Nazis shows how logical their world view was
Well, I imagine if the US had gone after Japan first, perhaps if Germany and Italy don't declare war on the US (or any other POD/circumstance), there would be quite a few Japanese soldiers that would want to fight for a winning power. Of course, such an event would almost certainly require the Germans to defeat the Soviet Union which opens up a whole 'nother can of worms.
MarshalBraginsky
Banned
The Japanese did have its own version of the SS in the form of the Gyugun, although I know a bit about a Filipino volunteer corps that fought for the Japanese, called the Makapili. On the other hand, there is a reason why there were only a few Asian volunteers in the SS, and that is probably because they were a part of a country that is occupied by the Germans (ie: the Netherlands and the Indonesian volunteer)
You know what we've been forgetting?!?
Freiwilligen SS Division "Robert E. Lee" (CSA volunteers)
Freiwilligen SS Division "Stonewall Jackson" (CSA volunteers)
Freiwilligen SS Panzer-Grenadier Division "Nathan Bedford Forrest" (CSA volunteers)
Been playing Mississippi Banzai?
A unit from the game is the SS Nightrider (KKK) Legion
The Waffen-SS is what your looking for, they were the ones who really put together the foreign brigades. But as to Asiatic, I don't see the Germans getting involved in East Asia if they manage to survive WW2, which is almost impossible.
OTL "Legion" was used to cover how small they actually were. And could in the end be of any size.
The Waffen-SS had a distinction between those divisions that were seen as "Germanic" and those which weren't. For example:
2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" was a completely German division.
11th SS Freiwilligen Panzer-Grenadier Division "Nordland" was a foreign volunteer division seen as Germanic, thus the term "Freiwilligen", or "freewill".
33rd Grenadier Division der SS "Charlemagne" was considered non-Germanic, and so the SS was applied at the end of the division's function (Panzer, Panzer-Grenadier, Grenadier, Gebirgs, etc).
This type of organization translated to ranks as well. a German or Germanic SS Major would be an "SS-Sturmbannführer", while a non-Germanic SS Major would be a "Sturmbannführer der SS".