Alternate Spanish East Indies

I was thinking when the Spanish arrive in the Philippines, what would happen in the Spanish colonization and what areas would they colonize and incorporate in the Spanish East Indies, if both OTL Luzon and Sulu were both not conquerable to the Spanish?
 
Maybe they fall to the Bruneians, Japanese, Manchu Chinese or Ottoman Turks? (Ottoman expedition to Aceh being a possible factor in Aceh helping Brunei reconquer Luzon and Sulu?)
 
Maybe they fall to the Bruneians, Japanese, Manchu Chinese or Ottoman Turks? (Ottoman expedition to Aceh being a possible factor in Aceh helping Brunei reconquer Luzon and Sulu?)
Actually, OTL Luzon was backwater for the Asian Powers while Sulu was a center of trade, Brunei acquired OTL Luzon because the Bruneians want the city of Manila which was also called Selurong which became a trade center like Sulu and also because they were Pagans, I think a stronger Tondo dynasty will be able to survive a war against the Bruneians and they might only give Kota Selurong/Maynila to the Bruneians, I am just think how this backwater country will fare since it wouldn't be conquerable to the Spanish...
I think Sulu will be targeted by the Spanish but they will survive as OTL.
 
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I also had a written plan for a thread where the Ottoman expedition to Aceh became more successful, resulting in the Ottoman colonization of present day Indonesia and possibly Luzon, Visayas and Sulu.
 
I also had a written plan for a thread where the Ottoman expedition to Aceh became more successful, resulting in the Ottoman colonization of present day Indonesia and possibly Luzon, Visayas and Sulu.
But the POD I mentioned butterflies that attempt.
 
I see. I proposed some sort of tribe which would conquer Luzon and adopt either the Nestorian Christian faith or the Muslim faith. Either a Turkic tribe migrating through the Cholas after the Gokturk Civil War or the Mongol invaders for Java had somehow end up in Luzon.
 
I see. I proposed some sort of tribe which would conquer Luzon and adopt either the Nestorian Christian faith or the Muslim faith. Either a Turkic tribe migrating through the Cholas after the Gokturk Civil War or the Mongol invaders for Java had somehow end up in Luzon.

It is ASB, the Tondo Dynasty could use the Mongols as mercenaries actually.
 
Tondo Empire using Mongols would be a bit better, though I also wonder if the Mongols themselves could potentially create a better Tondo Empire. Even better, most of those Mongols could be Nestorian Christians.
 
Tondo Empire using Mongols would be a bit better, though I also wonder if the Mongols themselves could potentially create a better Tondo Empire. Even better, most of those Mongols could be Nestorian Christians.

Ma-I could harbor Mongol exiles actually.
 
Kasumi, this quote was written from one of my older threads. I'm not sure if this could be useful or not.

Grumpy young Man said:
1) During the Yuan dynasty mongols makes efforts for concentrating oriental christians, nestorians etc. in the coastal China, reasons unimportant (let's say they believed that they are more skilled in trade and finances, aka. Jews of Asia)
2) Red Turban Rebellion starts, Yuan starts to fall, and the said christians simply transport their entire communities to the Phillipines, to escape the chaos.
3) By late 16 cent when Spain enters the area the culture of the islands is already assimilated in the unique, ethiopian like version of orthodox christianity, and cordial relations with trade benefits start. Spain makes no effort of conquest.
4) Vitus Bering, danish explorer in the employment of Peter the Great that discovered Alaska has heard about the stated christian society, and goes down to establish relations.
5) Thus came 19 cent, Russia got Vladivostok and Japan starts to get frisky in the region so who will be better protector of the island nation than the Rodina.

Although this was originally going to be used for a PoD in a Russian Philippines.
 
Buddhist Pagan. Well, I was going to redo Ivangorod Prosperous and the idea of Luzon being difficult to conquer is necessary so the Russians could be able to integrate it a bit easier.
 
Buddhist Pagan. Well, I was going to redo Ivangorod Prosperous and the idea of Luzon being difficult to conquer is necessary so the Russians could be able to integrate it a bit easier.

Russians could turn it into a protectorate and the Russians might also turn Korea to a protectorate as well or the russians and japanese do to Korea what Austria, Prussia and Russia did in OTL to Poland.
 
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