Alternate Politicians - After 1900

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The Arkansas Duo, the Tennessee Friend, and the Kentucky Acquaintance.

David Hampton Pryor
Born: 29 August, 1934 (Camden, Arkansas)
Party: Democratic

Arkansas State Representative (1961-1967)
U.S. Representatives from Arkansas (1967-1973)
Class 2 Senator from Arkansas (1973-1997)
Governor of Arkansas (1975-1979)

William Jefferson Blythe III
Born: 19 August, 1946 (Hope, Arkansas)
Party: Democratic

U.S. Representative from Arkansas (1975-1977)
Attorney General of Arkansas (1977-1979)
Governor of Arkansas (1979-1995)
His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties (1985-1993)

Albert Arnold "Al" Gore Jr.
Born: 31 March, 1948 (Washington, D.C.)
Party: Democratic

U.S. Representative from Tennessee (1977-1985)
Class 2 Senator from Tennessee (1985-20 January, 1989)
Vice-President of the United States (1989-1993)
His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties (1993-2001)

Walter Darlington “Dee” Huddleston
Born: 15 April, 1926 (Burkesville, Kentucky)
Died: 16 October, 2018 (Warsaw, Kentucky) (92)
Party: Democratic

Kentucky State Senator (1965-1973)
Class 2 Senator from Kentucky (1973-1991)

 

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Texas if it were based (20th century)

James Frank Dobie
Born: 26 September, 1888 (Live Oak County, Texas)
Died: 28 September, 1964 (76)
Party: Democratic

Governor of Texas (1945-1947)

Ralph Webster Yarborough
Born: 8 June, 1903 (Chandler, Texas)
Died: 27 January, 1996 (Austin, Texas) (92)
Party: Democratic

Attorney General of Texas (1939-1941)
Governor of Texas (1953-1959)
Class 2/1/2 Senator from Texas (20 January, 1957-1979)

Enrique Barbosa González
Born: 3 May, 1916 (San Antonio, Texas)
Died: 28 November, 2000 (San Antonio, Texas) (84)
Party: Democratic

San Antonio City Council member (1953-1957)
Texas State Senator (1957-1959)
Class 2 Senator from Texas (3 January, 1959-1967)
Governor of Texas (1959-1961)
U.S. Representative from Texas (1967-1999)

Don Yarborough
Born: 15 December, 1925 (New Orleans, Louisiana)
Died: 23 September, 2009 (Houston, Texas) (83)
Party: Democratic

Lieutenant Governor of Texas (1961-1963)
Governor of Texas (1961-1967/1969-1971)

Mary Frances Tarlton “Sissy” Farenthold
Born: 2 October, 1926 (Corpus Christi, Texas)
Died: 2 October, 2021 (Houston, Texas) (95)
Party: Democratic

Texas State Representative (1969-1973)
Governor of Texas (1973-1979)

Mark Wells White Jr.
Born: 17 March, 1940 (Henderson, Texas)
Died: 5 August, 2017 (Houston, Texas) (77)

Secretary of State of Texas (1973-1979)
Attorney General of Texas (1979-1983)
Governor of Texas (1983-1991)

Dorothy Ann Richards (née Willis)
Born: 1 September, 1933 (Lakeview, now Lacy Lakeview, TX)
Died: 13 September, 2003 (Austin, Texas) (73)
Party: Democratic

Travis County Commissioners’ Court Judge (1977-1983)
Treasurer of Texas (1983-1991)
Governor of Texas (1991-1999)

Minnie Fisher Cunningham
Born: 19 March, 1882 (New Waverly, Texas)
Died: 9 December, 1965 (New Waverly, Texas) (82)
Party: Democratic

Class 1 Senator from Texas (1929-1935)

Lyndon Baines Johnson
Born: 27 August, 1908 (Gillespie County, Texas)
Died: 22 January, 1973 (Gillespie County, Texas) (64)
Party: Democratic

U.S. Representative from TX (10 April, 1937-9 April, 1941)
Class 2 Senator from Texas (9 April, 1941-20 January, 1957)
His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties (1957-1961/22 November, 1963-1969)
VPOTUS (1961-22 November, 1963)

 

[glenn67]

The Arkansas Duo, the Tennessee Friend, and the Kentucky Acquaintance.

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David Hampton Pryor
Born: 29 August, 1934 (Camden, Arkansas)
Party: Democratic

Arkansas State Representative (1961-1967)
U.S. Representatives from Arkanssas (1967-1973)
Class 2 Senator from Arkansas (1973-1997)
Governor of Arkansas (1975-1979)

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William Jefferson Blythe III
Born: 19 August, 1946 (Hope, Arkansas)
Party: Democratic

U.S. Representative from Arkansas (1975-1977)
Attorney General of Arkansas (1977-1979)
Governor of Arkansas (1979-1995)
President of the United States (1985-1993)

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Albert Arnold "Al" Gore Jr.
Born: 31 March, 1948 (Washington, D.C.)
Party: Democratic

U.S. Representative from Tennessee (1977-1985)
Class 2 Senator from Tennessee (1985-20 January, 1989)
Vice-President of the United States (1989-1993)
President of the United States (1993-2001)

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Walter Darlington “Dee” Huddleston
Born: 15 April, 1926 (Burkesville, Kentucky)
Died: 16 October, 2018 (Warsaw, Kentucky) (92)
Party: Democratic

Kentucky State Senator (1965-1973)
Class 2 Senator from Kentucky (1973-1991)

David Pryor cannot serve as US Senator and Governor of Arkansas at the same time.
Bill Clinton cannot serve as Governor of Arkansas and President of the United States at the same time.

 

[Rafi_T]

David Pryor cannot serve as US Senator and Governor of Arkansas at the same time.
Bill Blythe III cannot serve as Governor of Arkansas and President of the United States at the same time.

They can serve at the same time. Federal law allows for those officials to serve at the state level. (It's why John Jay was able to be Governor of New York while also Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.)

The Supreme Court has already decided that states can't bar someone from dual office holding when it comes to the federal-state divide at the federal level, but you can ban it at the state level. (So a Governor can become a Senator, and the state say that he can't run for reelection as governor, or perhaps even demand that he resigns as governor, but they can't do the same for the Senate seat,

So ITTL, the idea is that Pryor beats that PoS McClellan (a segregationist) in '72 and enters the Senate 6 years earlier (becoming the senior senator once Bumpers gets elected in '74), and people like him enough to elect him governor.

It's the same for Blythe III. Arkansas just loves him so much they re-elect him governor even while he's President (while the Lt. Governor will take care of the day to day). (ITTL, he keeps his original name, and so does his wife, Hillary Diane Rodham.)

 

[glenn67]

They can serve at the same time. Federal law allows for those officials to serve at the state level. (It's why John Jay was able to be Governor of New York while also Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.)

The Supreme Court has already decided that states can't bar someone from dual office holding when it comes to the federal-state divide at the federal level, but you can ban it at the state level. (So a Governor can become a Senator, and the state say that he can't run for reelection as governor, or perhaps even demand that he resigns as governor, but they can't do the same for the Senate seat,

So ITTL, the idea is that Pryor beats that PoS McClellan (a segregationist) in '72 and enters the Senate 6 years earlier (becoming the senior senator once Bumpers gets elected in '74), and people like him enough to elect him governor.

It's the same for Clinton. Arkansas just loves him so much they elect him governor even while he's President (while the Lt. Governor will take care of the day to day).

Constitutionally, they cannot serve in a Federal and state office at the same time. And it is impossible for a POTUS to serve as his state's Governor simultaneously.

 

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Constitutionally, they cannot serve in a Federal and state office at the same time. And it is impossible for a POTUS to serve as his state's Governor simultaneously.

Constitutionally, it's allowed. I just gave examples. The Founding Fathers didn't prohibit federal-state dual-office holding because there could come a time where the state could call upon the federal official to serve, and it would make no sense to restrict that. (Back when the states were viewed as being as, if not more important than the Federal Government.)

From the Dual Mandate wiki: The United States Constitution prohibits members of the Senate or House from holding positions within the Executive Branch (Art. I, Sec. 6, cl. 2), and limits the president to his salary as chief executive, saying he may not "receive... any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them" (Art. II, Sec. 1, cl. 7). However, the Constitution places no restrictions that would prevent state or local office holders from simultaneously holding office in any branch of the federal government. (So as long as Blythe III donates his governor's salary, or something similar, it's ok.)

Historically, the U.S. inherited many basic political traditions from Great Britain, which in the eighteenth century tolerated several different forms of dual mandate. Following the establishment of the original Continental Congress and later Confederation Congress, the states possessed absolute discretion in regards to how delegates were chosen to serve, and it became common for state legislatures to appoint members from within their own ranks to Congress. A ban on dual mandates would therefore have been widely seen as unnecessary and unwelcome as it would have effectively barred Congressional delegates from what were perceived to be more important political posts, thus making election to the national Congress (already seen as a considerable burden due to the difficulties of eighteenth century travel) quite undesirable.

During the convention that established the present U.S. constitution, attention was primarily given to designing a federal government with branches that would be able operate independently of each other and free of undesirable foreign influence, which resulted in the aforementioned prohibitions. Barring state and local officials from federal office was not seriously debated. If it had been, it would likely have been fiercely opposed especially by the nascent anti-Federalist movement, many of whose members were keen to ensure that state officials with a vested interest in defending states' rights would be allowed to also serve simultaneously at the federal level, especially in Congress.

In time, the vast majority of states banned dual state and federal mandates. Today, the practice is forbidden by many state constitutions of many U.S. states, but as of January 2018 it was still legal in Connecticut, only for municipal offices. Unlike many other attempts at the state level intended to place additional restrictions besides those in the U.S. Constitution regarding who can represent them in Congress, most of which have been ruled unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court, state-originated bans on dual mandates are constitutional because their prohibitions technically restrict who is allowed to serve at the state and/or local level (i.e. they typically place some sort of de jure prohibition barring federal officials from simultaneously serving at the state and/or local levels, resulting in a de facto prohibition on the reverse arrangement occurring).

 

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Louisiana if it were based. (20th century)

John Milliken Parker
Born: 16 March, 1863 (Washington, Louisiana)
Died: 20 May, 1939 (Pass Christian, Mississippi) (76)
Party: Democratic

Governor of Louisiana (1916-1924)

Huey Pierce Long Jr. "The Kingfish"
Born: 30 August, 1893 (Winnfield, Louisiana)
Died: 10 September, 1970 (Baton Rouge, Louisiana) (77)
Party: Democratic

Louisiana Railroad Commission (1918-1924)
Governor of Louisiana (1924-1932)
Class 2 Senator from Louisiana (1931-1937)

Earl Kemp Long
Born: 26 August, 1895 (Winnfield, Louisiana)
Died: 5 September, 1964 (Alexandria, Louisiana) (69)
Party: Democratic

Governor of Louisiana (1932-1952/1956-1964)
U.S. Representative from Louisiana (1961-1963)

Edwin Washington Edwards
Born: 7 August, 1927 (Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana)
Died: 12 August, 2021 (Gonzales, Louisiana) (94)
Party: Democratic

Crowley City Council (1954-1964)
Louisiana State Senator (1964-1965)
U.S. Representative from Louisiana (2 October, 1965-1973)
Governor of Louisiana (1972-1981/1985-1997)

Cleo Fields
Born: 22 November, 1962 (Baton Rouge, Louisiana)
Party: Democratic

Louisiana State Senator (1989-1991)
U.S. Representative from Louisiana (1991-1997)
Governor of Louisiana (1997-2001)

Mary Loretta Landrieu
Born: 23 November, 1955 (Arlington, Virginia)

Louisiana State Representative (1981-1988)
Treasurer of Louisiana (1 January, 1988 – 1997)
Class 2 Senator form Louisiana (1997-2027)

 

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Prepare for trouble! And make it double!

Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
Born: 27 October, 1858 (New York City, New York)
Died: 30 October, 1925 (Oyster Bay, New York) (67)
Party: Republican

New York State Assemblyman (1882-1884)
Speaker of the New York State Assembly (1884)
Member of the United States Civil Service Commission (1889-1901)
Mayor of New York City (1895-1897)
Governor of New York (1899-1902)
His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties (1901-1925)

Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Born: 30 January, 1882 (Hyde Park, New York)
Died: 12 April, 1964 (Hyde Park, New York) (82)
Party: Democratic

New York State Senator (1911-1913)
Class 3 Senator from New York (1915-1921)
Governor of New York (1919-1920/1929-1932)
Vice-President of the United States (1921-1925)
His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties (1925-1929/20 January, 1933-26 June, 1945)
Secretary-General of the United Nations (26 June, 1945-February, 1964)

 

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[SomeGuyOnline]

Name: Henry John Deutschendorf Jr.
Date of Birth: December 31, 1943 (age 80)
Political Party: Democratic

List of Offices Held:
Lieutenant Governor of Colorado (January 14, 1975 - January 13, 1987)
Governor of Colorado (January 13, 1987 - December 21, 1996)
President of the United States (January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2005)

 

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For the record, this thread is for non-wiki box posts.

 

[SomeGuyOnline]

Name: Lawrence Weiss
Date of Birth: January 2, 1925
Date of Death: July 3, 2008 (age 83)
Political Party: Independent

List of Offices Held:
President of the United States (January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1993)