Alternate Locations for a Vietnam-style Conflict During the Cold War
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I'm rather ignorant of the Cold War era but maybe Cuba, Angola or Ethiopia? Or the Congo?
The problem with those places is that the insurgents wouldn't be getting the huge amount of weapons and supplies that North Vietnam was getting from over the border and by ship.
How about Communist insurgents in Kashmir wanting an independant state ? That could cause a political clusterfuck on its own ,et alone once other powers start to pile in.
The US did virtually everything possible to assist the KMT short of actually sending troops to the front line. Arms, money, training, logistical support, you name it, the KMT were multiple times better than the Communists. The sheer size of China would turn direct US military intervention into Operation Unthinkable, and the decisiveness of the Communist victory speaks more about the KMT's incompetence than about lack of support.
Anyways, another scenario would be an attempted coup by Tudeh following the 1979 revolution. Resistance by the Ayatollahs turns Iran into a much larger and bloodier Afghanistan.
Iran instead of Vietnam and America learning the meaning of Jihad 30 years earlier? Sounds like a possibility. Like the CIA in Afghanistan the Soviets would provide aid to the jihadis but probably not as much as they gave to Vietnam. However that should be cancelled out by the aide they'd get from the rest of the Islamic world.
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Angola. Savambi is this timelines Ky. Allied with South Africa.
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Angola. Savambi is this timelines Ky. Allied with South Africa.
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Yikes, you're right. Especially given black American soldiers will be fighting alongside the South African Apartheid regime!
On the other hand, keep in mind that Savimbi's UNITA were black Africans also, as were many of the South African troops. Some of the Cubans were black, while others were white, and still others, cafe au lait. It wasn't a clear-cut black vs white conflict.
I wonder if this war could have escalated into something wider? As I recall, Zambia and the Peoples' Republic of the Congo supported the Cuban efforts to aid the Angolan government, while Mobutu's Zaire favored Savimbi.
I wonder if this war could have escalated into something wider? As I recall, Zambia and the Peoples' Republic of the Congo supported the Cuban efforts to aid the Angolan government, while Mobutu's Zaire favored Savimbi.
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Of course it isn't black-and-white (stupid pun). But the thought of poor black Americans being forced to fight alongside the Apartheid regime for no clear purpose is (literally) revolting.
Continuing the focus about a Vietnam-style conflict, how about guerilla warfare in South Korea or Taiwan? I know there were massacres in South Korea, but I'm not sure about Taiwan. Maybe Communist guerillas, whether supplied by tunnels from North Korea or boats from China, rise up and the US decides to send soldiers to support the RoK or RoC.
Just throwing out countries here, but what about US participation in the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, or Malaysia too if a full Vietnam-style war were to break out in any one of them.
Just throwing out countries here, but what about US participation in the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, or Malaysia too if a full Vietnam-style war were to break out in any one of them.
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Good points. What the racial compostion of Holden Roberto's FNLA, a major player during the 1970's also, was I am not sure.
The Mpla, had largely been mixed in membership and made up of assimlados, africans and mesitato mixed race solders who had been allowed some degree of autonomy by the portuguese as "civilised" africans. Paternal drum roll, please.
Good points. What the racial compostion of Holden Roberto's FNLA, a major player during the 1970's also, was I am not sure.
The Mpla, had largely been mixed in membership and made up of assimlados, africans and mesitato mixed race solders who had been allowed some degree of autonomy by the portuguese as "civilised" africans. Paternal drum roll, please.
No different from being drafted to serve in a racially segregated army in WW2!
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In a shooting war withAngolan and Cuban troops (who for once can claim to completely hold the Moral high ground.) Throwing every mistake of the Cold War in the American leadership's faces, along with their failures in domestic policy?
Can we get the Rhodesians involved?