Isn't that the middle versions of the North American Fury? The FJ-2 and FJ-3 not so much the FJ-4.
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Actually, there was a real life Sea Sabre but it went by he name of North American Fury, Navy designation FJ-1 through -4. North American developed the P-86/FN in 1944 as a joint project for the Army and Navy. Originally with straight wings. Curiously, the navy FN-1 flew first -with the straight wings- while the Army upgraded their order as the F-86 to include the newest (German) Research on swept wings. By the time the first F-86 flew 31 straight-wing FN-1's were already delivered to the navy. They were followed by the FN-2 Fury, which was basically a F-86 with arrester gear, the stronger FJ-3 and finally the FJ-4 Fury which had a redesigned larger but thinner wing and a cockpit that was raised and moved forward to make carrier landings easier.
Canadian Car and Foundry "Irate" fighter has Grumman Bearcat flying surfaces wrapped around a Whittle jet engine. This was a result of Whittle's test cell getting bombed once too often, so he accepted an invitation to Montreal. Whittle was able to hire several assistants to run new test cells while Canadian Vickers and Montreal Locomotive Works produced parts for prototype engines.
Ps, my top 5 military planes, as a model builder, going purely by esthetics:
World War I: for the quintessential WWI fighter look, I go with the Hanriot HD.1. Runner up: the Gotha G.V bomber as a quintessential example of WWI tech
Interwar years/1930's: either the Devoitine D.500/D.501/D.510 series or the Gloster Gladiator.
WWII: the Mustang is a classic, but as a model so common you get bored of it. So my vote goes to the late-war Japanese fighters: Nakajima Hayate, Mitsubishi A7m and Kawanishi Shiden-Kai. Choosing between those three, I go with the Shiden-Kai
Postwar/Early jet age: North American B.45 Tornado. It takes some skill to make a 4-engined jet bomber look sleek and beautiful. This one nailed it. Runner up: English Electric Lightning. Leave it to the Brits to throw out all the common wisdom about how a fighter plane is supposed to look, make up their own rules on the fly and still get the result to look stunning nevertheless.
Modern age: The F.16, especially the early version has the looks, but.... See North American Mustang above. So I'm torn between the Sukhoi Su.33 and the Dassault Rafale. Preferably the Rafale A prototype/demonstrator but the Single-Seat Rafale C fighter will do as well. Ideal of course would be a Rafale with Russian Navy two-tone blue paint job.
World War I: for the quintessential WWI fighter look, I go with the Hanriot HD.1. Runner up: the Gotha G.V bomber as a quintessential example of WWI tech
Interwar years/1930's: either the Devoitine D.500/D.501/D.510 series or the Gloster Gladiator.
WWII: the Mustang is a classic, but as a model so common you get bored of it. So my vote goes to the late-war Japanese fighters: Nakajima Hayate, Mitsubishi A7m and Kawanishi Shiden-Kai. Choosing between those three, I go with the Shiden-Kai
Postwar/Early jet age: North American B.45 Tornado. It takes some skill to make a 4-engined jet bomber look sleek and beautiful. This one nailed it. Runner up: English Electric Lightning. Leave it to the Brits to throw out all the common wisdom about how a fighter plane is supposed to look, make up their own rules on the fly and still get the result to look stunning nevertheless.
Modern age: The F.16, especially the early version has the looks, but.... See North American Mustang above. So I'm torn between the Sukhoi Su.33 and the Dassault Rafale. Preferably the Rafale A prototype/demonstrator but the Single-Seat Rafale C fighter will do as well. Ideal of course would be a Rafale with Russian Navy two-tone blue paint job.
I like a lot of those planes too. BTW did you know we have a scale model thread? I can't recall if I've seen you post over there, here's a link in case you didn't - https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-official-kit-building-thread.394654/
Feel free to post pics of your models or any cool pics you might have found on the internet.
Everyone else here should check it out too if love you planes, tanks, trains ect.
Here's a Hayaschmitt (or a Messerbusa, whatever what want to call thus bird) Fighter, which is essentially a Ki-43 III Ko fighter fitted with the 20mm gun pods and a nose from the Bf-109 G-6/R-6 variant. To be honest, she's one ugly looking bird.
Yeah the front half looks right but the rear seems off. I think you should've gone with a razorback.
I like it, it looks good with the long thin fuselage, like a pencil.
Thanks for telling about the thread. I came across it on several occasions and I got to follow it intermittently. However I gave up on plastic models somewhere in my puberty as I discovered I spent more time reading about the planes then I spent actually building them. Lately I started building model planes again, but I now make them out of wood and if I have the choice between making them look like toys and making them look like scale models, I choose toys anytime. So I really don't have anything to post.
Well if you change your mind you know where to the thread.
I once tried to build a balsa wood model, it was a total disaster.
Makes you think....
1) I wonder how a Ki-43 would look like if for an experiment it was fitted with the engine of the Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien... Which was a Japanese licenced version of the Daimler-Benz engine used in the Messerschmitt 109-E . I would go with two variants: a drooping nose like on the Ki-61 and a genuine BF-109E nose....
2) Then I wonder if Kawasaki somehow had a direct link to Daimler-Benz and Messerschmitt and decided for their next generation Ki-61 to use the engine and nose of the Bf-109G, complete with cannons and bulges.....
I got a few alternate Ki-61's posted here including one with Me-109K nose and a jet powered version.
Don't remember what pages there are on though.
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Not a new design, but I liked it in this livery. This one's from the obscure wanked-Thailand shared world I toy with offsite sometimes. Albion is basically a Pacific Northwest-centred alt-Canada and this aircraft was on deployment with the soon-to-be-retired carrier Her Majesty's Royal Alban Ship Kodiak to defend fellow Commonwealth member Guyana, the British having secured both French Guiana and Suriname during the mid-1700s and early 1800s as parts of various war concessions.
I'm a sucker for the Crusader and I thought it looked awesome in Canadian-style Cold War colours.
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Another original-ish:
The Fleet AA-214 Strike Talapus, a light attack and COIN variant of the Fleet Talapus trainer.
The Fleet AA-214 Strike Talapus, a light attack and COIN variant of the Fleet Talapus trainer.