Alternate Germany

I was thinking, seeing how well Germany has recovered from both world wars and various conflicts as being one of the best well off countries in Europe, what if Adolf Hitler (or someone else rising to power) was not some crazed lunatic looking to start a world war and commit genocide acts.

For Example, let's say Hitler or some other figure rises with rants of German pride, but not for revenge or destruction of the Jews and the unwanted. However there is a hate for communism, I don't see anything to stop that mind set in Germany at the time and military buildup with the soviets just a country over.

What would history look like if Germany had gone this route and confronted the allies diplomatically some years down the road and demanded lifting some terms of the treaty of Versailles and maybe get some German land back. (especially with Neville Chamberlain leading the UK).
 

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I was thinking, seeing how well Germany has recovered from both world wars and various conflicts as being one of the best well off countries in Europe, what if Adolf Hitler (or someone else rising to power) was not some crazed lunatic looking to start a world war and commit genocide acts.

For Example, let's say Hitler or some other figure rises with rants of German pride, but not for revenge or destruction of the Jews and the unwanted. However there is a hate for communism, I don't see anything to stop that mind set in Germany at the time and military buildup with the soviets just a country over.

What would history look like if Germany had gone this route and confronted the allies diplomatically some years down the road and demanded lifting some terms of the treaty of Versailles and maybe get some German land back. (especially with Neville Chamberlain leading the UK).

It really depends on how the POD changes the nature of France/UK. Note, however, that the Nazi's hated Communism because of its perceived failures. It was the counter-revolution to the revolution. For both to happen, however, the necessary conditions had to be met; economic depression. Economic depression is still going to happen IOTL, and the Germans will thus take a 'radical' approach in order to deal with what wasn't going away before contemporary Capitalism was overthrown IOTL's Germany.

Essentially, the point is that Germany is going to down a 'radical' path one wa or the other. When the system abjectly fails in its aggregate, people look for an answer wherever it can be found. A Germany that doesn't follow the route of Benito's Italy is going Communist, or even Socialist depending on the composition of the parliament. There isn't really a difference between the two aside from the means with which the system is implemented; i.e ones revolutionary.

In that, a France/UK that bears witness to the survival of the bourgeoisie would be far more hostile to a Communist Germany then they ever were to its Fascist anti-thesis. This is rooted in the status of the Capitalist in both systems. In one, their dead. In the other, they are afforded that which they actively strive for; a monopoly through the will of the state. In fact, a France/UK that sees a worsening of conditions whilst subsequently staring at a Communist Germany would probably go Fascist themselves. I say this because there isn't really another alternative to turn to. Keynes was in its infancy and was, and still is, irrelevant after a depression has occurred. Meanwhile, Roosevelt was afforded the opportunity to do what he did because the bourgeoisie of America still had wealth that could be extracted despite the depression. In France and the UK, the wealth of the elite was destroyed trying to finance the First World War; making any attempt to preserve the system all but impossible.

I say this because both the UK and France showed the same trend, the same downward spiral towards the tearing of the social fabric. This trend continued through and until the fall of France. It cannot be reversed without a World War. With a Communist Germany that doesn't attack, the UK/France would turn to the one ideology that offers perpetual warfare and sharp contrasts against their long-time, now Communist enemy; that ideology is Fascism.
 
Two ways to get Hitler out way

One, he died in World War 1.
Two, he died in Bierhalle putsch.

So a post WW1 Weimar Germany would become the coalition of Conservatives, veterans and Military, the biggest Political power, not NSDAP
There main goal would fight the Communist, restore Former glory of German empire and revenge for WW1.
It very plausibility that this coalition end the Weimar Republic and restore the monarchy, but not with former emperor Family.
because Wilhelm II had goofed up in OTL as the Conservatives ask his son to become candidate for Election,
He intervene threaten the former crown prince with expel him from the Family, the prince obeyed.
lucky Germany has other aristocracies house were coalition can choice
like the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
 
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