Alternate german invadion of soviet ubion

[General Von Baileys]

Could a Germany allied with Poland ,Romania,Hungary,Finland,Bulgaria have defeated. Soviet Union if they were to at war with West?(pod: Germany and Poland becomes allies instead of Germany invading poland)
Had this idea after I read johnboy an extremely reluctant fuhrer

 

[Tonrich]

There's NO way Poland can exist along side of Hitler's Germany. Hitlers dream was to expand Germany to be self supporting and independent. Poland WAS Germany prior to the end of WWI so most of the Polish land was part of what Hitler was trying to restore. Not sure how you can get an alliance between those two in any which way!

 

[Hoplophile]

One can imagine a scenario in which, in the absence of French and British support for Poland, the Danzig crisis of 1939 is resolved without war. In such a timeline, a combination of Soviet "salami tactics" (operations against Finland, the Baltic States, and Romania) and mounting evidence of Soviet plans for an invasion of Europe, cause Poland and Germany to put their (admittedly considerable) differences aside for the sake of dealing with the immediate danger.

In 1942, the Soviets feel strong enough to attempt the occupation of Romania. This convinces both the Germans and the Poles that their only choice is between fighting now (with the help of the Romanian armed forces and Romanian oil) and later (without such advantages.) They opted for the first.

(The trick now is to find some reason for the British and French to get involved. Having declined to go to war for the sake of Poland, it is hard to imagine them going to war in 1942 for the sake of the USSR.)

 

[iron]

What ever you read was false.
There is no possible way that this POD gets legs.

It does not work because Hitler NEEDS to acquire the National Treasure of Poland to keep the German economy afloat.
Read "The Wages of Destruction" by J Adam Tooze for further clarity in this regard.

 

[DrakonFin]

One can imagine a scenario in which, in the absence of French and British support for Poland, the Danzig crisis of 1939 is resolved without war.

IOTL, Poland was still ready to negotiate when the war broke out. The Germans were not. It might be fair to say that the "crisis" was a manufactured one, and that Hitler was determined to escalate it into a war to take over his agreed-upon share of Poland, as per the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Looking at it from this angle, France and Britain staying out of it would not have prevented a war between Poland and Germany. It might well have at least delayed a war between Germany and the Anglo-French alliance, though.