Alternate Foods and Drinks

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While rabbit is tasty and cheap to grow, the meat is too lean to make it a staple food (google search "rabbit starvation"). That being said, wild cows are a lot different from domestic cows... maybe a concerted breeding program could have produced plumper rabbits which would be healthier for human consumption and make up a larger part of the western diet.
Have you seen some of these rabbits lately?
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Flemish Giant Belgium 14–25 lb (6.4–11.3 kg) Tall Upright Steel, Light Grey, Sandy, Fawn, White, Black, Blue
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These dam things are the size of turkeys
 
  • acorn
  • Bracken/Fern fiddlehead
  • Maroi fern root
  • Beechnut
  • Horse Chestnut

Acorn is broadly dependent the variety of oak. Except for a few varieties, acorns need a large amount of processing to remove all the tannins to make them palatable. That said, they are positively packed with protein, and a relatively small acorn biscuit fills you up quite surprisingly. And it's very tasty.
 
My mother was a subsistence farmer and with all the subsistence farmers I have ever met chicken was a rare and very special meal because they were too important for their eggs. I'd go so far as to say it was a delicacy whereas the backbone of cookery for many populations is pork because the caloric density of lardy meat.

Having grown up on a farm (though far from a subsistence farm), I can agree with this. Pigs are just so easy to raise, compared with all other animals. They'll eat anything (including pork, disturbingly enough), they'll scrounge their own food quite happily, they'll reproduce very quickly, and they're not nearly as vulnerable to predators as chickens are. Just think of the idiom 'fox in the henhouse.' There is no 'wolf in the pig pen' idiom, because pigs can be pretty damn mean and scary on their own. Even the meanest of poultry (geese) are nothing compared to predators like coyotes. I've lost track of the number of times I saw dead chickens or geese on the farm (well, technically, feathers and blood where the kill happened; except that one time the coyotes killed our entire flock of geese mafia-style, and just left them there). I don't recall one time that our pigs, even the little piglets, were victims of predators. Hell, they'd get out and wander in the woods for a week, and we'd still find them, happy as can be, out in the wilderness.

TLDR: Pigs are tough. Chickens are not.
 
I'll have to take your word for it. I tried it, being from West Virginia several times. I would prefer to never do it again.

Maybe the worst meat I have ever tried was bear.
Late fall bear can be very delicious, when fattened properly and not eating human refuse also again not too old. Belly is best from what I'm told, like pork belly. There is a red cooked Chinese bear belly on the web apparently!
 
Not really. The bioavailability of plant protein is only marginally less than that of animal protein - and come to that, not all animal protein is the same. There are vegan body-builders. By dry weight, there's more protein in 100g of most pulses than in the average beefsteak.

That said, it's easier to have animal products from eggs or dairy for some of the protein, and Vitamin B12 is essentially available only from animal sources, so some animal products are necessary. Just not for protein.

Sure, but you need to get the protein out in supplement for this to work. That's only possible in recent times.


Pigs are just so easy to raise, compared with all other animals.

If the climate is up to it. You can't keep pigs in Southwest Asia without special shelters, which contributed to making them forbidden.
 
Sure, but you need to get the protein out in supplement for this to work. That's only possible in recent times.

If the climate is up to it. You can't keep pigs in Southwest Asia without special shelters, which contributed to making them forbidden.

Wait, what? Even if they weren't ideal, people in that part of world clearly perservered with pig farming regardless, hence why Jewish archaeological sites are noted for the lack of pig bones (and Abrahamic religion's dislike of pork). Clearly pork isn't the best meat, but people would eat it. Remember during the swine flu epidemic a few years back when Egypt ordered all pigs in the country to be killed--most all were owned by Copts who don't have the kneejerk opposition to pigs a Muslim might. Pig farming has a long, long history in the MENA region. It's even in the Bible. Jesus never condemns any group of pig farmers, and the worst thing regarding pigs is Jesus casts out some demon into a horde of swine (which then dies). That's a sign that pigs were a lesser meat for the people, but an important meat regardless. Pig farming was widespread in Jesus's time, and going by the Copts who lost their flocks to the swine flu epidemic, widespread since then. Pigs are dirty, but nothing aside from religion prevents pigs from being widespread in North Africa, the Middle East, etc.

Non-meat protein, lentils and buckwheat, among various crops, clearly sustained many people throughout history. Both are rich in nutrients (and highly tasty). East Asian nobility tended to prefer rice over other crops (and polished rice--white rice--at that), which led to the odd scenario where the peasants tended to have better nutrition than the nobles, because, at least in Japan and I believe Korea too and possibly China, they were eating more buckwheat.
 
Actually, pigs are one of the cleanest livestock animals. They are one of the few that will actually attempt to keep their living arrangements clean (shit in one corner of a stall and sleep in the opposite).
 
Sure, but you need to get the protein out in supplement for this to work. That's only possible in recent times.
Vegan bodybuilders have no more need for protein supplements than meat-eating body-builders. As I said, there's as much or more protein in the same dry weight of pulses as there is for beefsteak.

If the climate is up to it. You can't keep pigs in Southwest Asia without special shelters, which contributed to making them forbidden.
Que? Wild boars were native to, and domesticated in, SW Asia. Wild ones are still found there today.
 
Late fall bear can be very delicious, when fattened properly and not eating human refuse also again not too old. Belly is best from what I'm told, like pork belly. There is a red cooked Chinese bear belly on the web apparently!

I've had black bear that was very good. I would describe as being like a pleasantly gamey beef


On another note, you could make Jerusalem Artichokes popular. They grow in poor soil, grow abundantly, and are tasty.
 
What about having Yaupon tea become popular during the civil war when Southerners couldn't get coffee or tea due to the blockade?
 
What about having Yaupon tea become popular during the civil war when Southerners couldn't get coffee or tea due to the blockade?
You can buy it still but it's associated with poverty and crushing defeat. It'll be impossible to separate tea culture for anything else amongst the elite and aspiring classes
 
You can buy it still but it's associated with poverty and crushing defeat. It'll be impossible to separate tea culture for anything else amongst the elite and aspiring classes

That hasn't stopped other southern things associated with poverty from becoming popular
 
You can buy it still but it's associated with poverty and crushing defeat. It'll be impossible to separate tea culture for anything else amongst the elite and aspiring classes

Poverty and crushing defeat when? Poverty, certainly, a poor substitute for tea, certainly, but there's no reason the status of yaupon can't rise, although the Civil War is rather late for that. I think the Boston Tea Party scenario I posted earlier is probably yaupon's best chance.

Still, Southerners did change their preferred tea to black tea during World War II, so I guess it isn't too implausible to have yaupon be adopted as a part of southern culture.
 
I just want to say that as an aspiring chef, I really appreciate this thread being around, it offers a lot of inspiration and ideas to try out. Hopefully I'll be able to share some of my ideas here. :)
 
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