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I am making a map of a Perot victory using the County-BAM, inspired by @wilcoxchar.
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I've gotten through the Mountain West. I did not expect the Greens to win that many counties in Colorado, but they soaked up a lot of the usual Democratic vote in the areas other than Denver and the Hispanic part of the state. Also don't be fooled by the redness of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. A lot of those close counties had the Reform Party in second. New Mexico is also the first state where neither the Greens nor the Reform Party won a county.
On Alaska, I couldn't find the county data and the state district boundaries changed mid-decade in the 90s so I unfortunately wasn't able to do a county map for them. With the statewide numbers, however, the Green Party actually wins it with 34.01% of the vote. The closest the Reform Party has come to winning a state so far is in Montana. They have 26.49% to the Republicans' 30.61%.
On Alaska, I couldn't find the county data and the state district boundaries changed mid-decade in the 90s so I unfortunately wasn't able to do a county map for them. With the statewide numbers, however, the Green Party actually wins it with 34.01% of the vote. The closest the Reform Party has come to winning a state so far is in Montana. They have 26.49% to the Republicans' 30.61%.
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Well it seems they were certainly willing to put aside some of their principles back in 2000 in order to potentially attract a viable candidate. Let's see who we have here:
I'm running out of time just in jotting all these names down and who they were so I can't give my thoughts on all of them, but it seems they tried really hard to convince any African-American they could find to try and seek their Presidential Nomination, possibly in the hopes of wresting that bloc of voters from the Democratic Party or at least make it competitive. I don't think they would have had much success given the last movement that tried that approach, the New Alliance Party, folded after two cycles, but it would have been interesting to see. More than a few of the people listed seem like pipe-dream candidates who, while sympathetic to parts of the ideology surrounding the Green Party, were never ever going to entertain the idea of seeking their nomination (Woodrow Harrelson for one). Then there are those I might have expected to run like Daniel Hamburg given how he had already just run for Governor of California as a Green, but in saying that he might not have been ready or experienced enough to pull of a national campaign, nor was he a national figure.
An interesting list to be sure.
- Wendell Berry, an author/activist/farmer from Kentucky, then aged (66).
- His mix of Christianity with environmentalism would likely have turned away the more Modern Green Party these days, as well as his lackluster support for Abortion.
- Harry Belafonte, singer/actor/activist from New York, then aged (73).
- I think I can say that without a doubt Belafonte would find himself agreeable to just about all the Foreign Policy planks of the Modern Green Party, if not any of the Socialist Parties in the running, but I'm not sure if he would be able to bring into the Green Party the African American demographic in any big way as those who advocated for him might have hoped, and he seems to have an ability to alienate. A star candidate for sure, but not one I think that would have elicited much success.
- Julian Bond, Representative from Georgia (1967-1974) State Senator in Georgia (1975-1987) and Chairman of the NAACP (1998-Present), then aged (60).
- Like Belafonte there would be hopes he could bring African Americans into the Green Party, but unlike Belafonte he is younger, more experienced, could easily establish a national presence, and already was heading the most notable African American organization in the United States. Unfortunately I can't see Bond turning against the Democratic Party unless someone like Zell Miller were to somehow end up nominated, so a mirage candidate.
- Jerry Brown, Former SOS (1971-1975), Former Governor (1975-1983) and Former Democratic State Chairman of California (1989-1991), and Mayor of Oakland (1999-Present), then aged (62).
- This seems to have been a rather interesting period for Brown, as he had apparently left the Democratic Party and had been elected as an Independent, and added with the aura of a Progressive still about him from his earlier tenure as Governor and his campaigns for the Senate and Presidency it makes sense that the Greens would extend their hand towards a man who, while still being a national figure, was at a political low-point. That said, as Mayor he governed pragmatically which would have been off-putting for those who expected more, and I don't believe Brown ever really wanted to cut ties with the Democratic Party entirely. A mirage candidate.
- Lester Brown, environmental analyst and founder of the Worldwatch Institute, then aged (66).
- George Lee Butler, former General and Commander-In-Chief of Strategic Air Command and founder of the Second Chance Foundation, from somewhere, then aged (61).
- Noam Chomsky, Professor/ Linguist and Philosopher from Massachusetts, then aged (72).
- Ron Daniels, Civil Rights Activist and former Director of the CCR and the National Rainbow Coalition from New York, then aged (58).
- Ron Dellums, Representative from California (1971-1998), then aged (65).
- Jocelyn Elders, Surgeon General of the United States (1993-1994) from Arkansas, then aged (67).
- Lani Guinier, Civil Rights Activist/Theorist and Professor at Harvard University from Massachusetts, then aged (50).
- Daniel Hamburg, Representative from California (1993-1995) and Green Gubernatorial Candidate (1998), then aged (52).
- Woodrow Harrelson, Actor/Activist/Playwright from Ohio, then aged (39).
- Paul Hawken, Environmentalist and Entrepreneur from California, then aged (54).
- Jim Hightower, Columnist/Activist/Author and Commissioner of Agriculture in Texas (1983-1991), then aged (57).
- Molly Ivans, Columnist/Author/Commentator/Humorist from Texas, then aged (56).
- Winona LaDuke, Activist/Economist/Enviromentalist - Director of Honor the Earth - 1996 Green Vice Presidential nominee from Minnesota, then aged (41).
- Cynthia McKinney, Representative from Georgia (1993-Present), then aged (45).
- Carol Miller, author and sculptor from California, then aged (67)* - Unsure if correct person.
- Toni Morrison, Novelist/Editor/Professor at Princeton University from New Jersey, then aged (69).
- Ralph Nader, Lecturer/Author/Attorney and 1996 Green Presidential Nominee from Connecticut, then aged (66).
- Ronald Ouellette* - Phantom, no idea who he is.
- John Robbins, Author/Activist and founder of EarthSave from California, then aged (53).
- Jan Schlichtmann, Attorney at Law from Massachusetts, then aged (49).
- Kurt Schmoke, former State Attorney (1983-1987) and Mayor of Baltimore (1987-1999) in Maryland, then aged (51).
- Studs Terkel, Author/Historian/Actor/Broadcaster from Illinois, then aged (88).
- Myrlie Evers-Williams, Civil Rights Activist/Journalist and Chairwoman of the NAACP (1995-1998) from Mississippi, then aged (67).
I'm running out of time just in jotting all these names down and who they were so I can't give my thoughts on all of them, but it seems they tried really hard to convince any African-American they could find to try and seek their Presidential Nomination, possibly in the hopes of wresting that bloc of voters from the Democratic Party or at least make it competitive. I don't think they would have had much success given the last movement that tried that approach, the New Alliance Party, folded after two cycles, but it would have been interesting to see. More than a few of the people listed seem like pipe-dream candidates who, while sympathetic to parts of the ideology surrounding the Green Party, were never ever going to entertain the idea of seeking their nomination (Woodrow Harrelson for one). Then there are those I might have expected to run like Daniel Hamburg given how he had already just run for Governor of California as a Green, but in saying that he might not have been ready or experienced enough to pull of a national campaign, nor was he a national figure.
An interesting list to be sure.
1968, but with Nixon's votes everywhere outside of DC replaced with his votes in 1960:
Republican: Richard Nixon (California)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Massachusetts) - 45.16%, 389 EVs
Democratic: Hubert H. Humphrey (Minnesota)/Edmund Muskie (Maine) - 41.41%, 96 EVs
American Independent: George Wallace (Alabama)/Curtis LeMay (California) - 13.11% ,53 EVs
Republican: Richard Nixon (California)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Massachusetts) - 45.16%, 389 EVs
Democratic: Hubert H. Humphrey (Minnesota)/Edmund Muskie (Maine) - 41.41%, 96 EVs
American Independent: George Wallace (Alabama)/Curtis LeMay (California) - 13.11% ,53 EVs
Yeah, of those that didn't response, I would most expect Dan Hamburg to have responded. I also think that had Jerry Brown not just been elected mayor, he might have considered the offer but of course that would still be only a slight possibility.
Texas still goes Democratic? Didn't it only go Democratic by a few points IOTL?
Continuing with the DoD maps from here and here. (The election data for the two elections held under the 1870 census is sadly unavailable, so we're skipping past those)
The 1880 election saw a rather nicely-encapsulated "struggle of personalities" between candidates who very much personified the ideals of their respective parties. The Patriots ran Thomas Corbin, an old-school rural populist very much of the "born in a log cabin he built with his own two hands" school, who lived as a frontiersman in the West for a long time before striking silver in the eastern backcountry of North California (where Nevada would be IOTL) and becoming immensely rich. The Democrats ran Wade Hampton III, a fabulously wealthy planter from one of South Carolina's most established old-money families. Both men had their appeal with certain groups and regions, and the election was very close, but ultimately Corbin would come out on top by a margin of four electoral votes.
Corbin's years in office ended up highly eventful, with the Third Mexican War breaking out in 1881 after an incident on the Veracruz-Mexico City railroad line, which is believed by historians to have been a false-flag operation staged by rail magnate Brutus Junius Clay to embarrass President Corbin into declaring war. Mexico surrendered unconditionally within months, and the US annexed the country wholesale, but guerrilla warfare would linger for six more years, until the last commander with Mexican allegiance surrendered in January of 1888.
By this point, President Corbin had succumbed to the "twenty-year curse" that's killed every US President elected in a year ending with zero since Jefferson, and his Vice-President David Richards became President while the election race heated up. Richards was not a particularly skilled or interesting politician, but his Louisiana planter background was seen as an asset since it might allow the Patriots to cut into the core Democrat vote. For their part, the Democrats successfully courted General Edward Mahan, the Conqueror of Mexico City, who proved an immensely popular candidate. Both parties selected VP candidates from key battleground states: Richards' running mate was Senator Charles Ramsey of North Carolina, while Mahan ran with Senator Lewis Mitchell of Westylvania, a man just barely old enough to be eligible but who was already turning heads on the political scene with his eloquent promotion of American exceptionalism and anti-British sentiment. Mahan ended up winning by a solid margin in the electoral vote, though less so in the popular vote - the biggest surprise of the election was certainly the fact that, perhaps because of Mitchell's presence on the ticket, the Democrats captured Westylvania, ending the "Free Trio"'s history of consistently voting Patriot.
The 1880 election saw a rather nicely-encapsulated "struggle of personalities" between candidates who very much personified the ideals of their respective parties. The Patriots ran Thomas Corbin, an old-school rural populist very much of the "born in a log cabin he built with his own two hands" school, who lived as a frontiersman in the West for a long time before striking silver in the eastern backcountry of North California (where Nevada would be IOTL) and becoming immensely rich. The Democrats ran Wade Hampton III, a fabulously wealthy planter from one of South Carolina's most established old-money families. Both men had their appeal with certain groups and regions, and the election was very close, but ultimately Corbin would come out on top by a margin of four electoral votes.
Corbin's years in office ended up highly eventful, with the Third Mexican War breaking out in 1881 after an incident on the Veracruz-Mexico City railroad line, which is believed by historians to have been a false-flag operation staged by rail magnate Brutus Junius Clay to embarrass President Corbin into declaring war. Mexico surrendered unconditionally within months, and the US annexed the country wholesale, but guerrilla warfare would linger for six more years, until the last commander with Mexican allegiance surrendered in January of 1888.
By this point, President Corbin had succumbed to the "twenty-year curse" that's killed every US President elected in a year ending with zero since Jefferson, and his Vice-President David Richards became President while the election race heated up. Richards was not a particularly skilled or interesting politician, but his Louisiana planter background was seen as an asset since it might allow the Patriots to cut into the core Democrat vote. For their part, the Democrats successfully courted General Edward Mahan, the Conqueror of Mexico City, who proved an immensely popular candidate. Both parties selected VP candidates from key battleground states: Richards' running mate was Senator Charles Ramsey of North Carolina, while Mahan ran with Senator Lewis Mitchell of Westylvania, a man just barely old enough to be eligible but who was already turning heads on the political scene with his eloquent promotion of American exceptionalism and anti-British sentiment. Mahan ended up winning by a solid margin in the electoral vote, though less so in the popular vote - the biggest surprise of the election was certainly the fact that, perhaps because of Mitchell's presence on the ticket, the Democrats captured Westylvania, ending the "Free Trio"'s history of consistently voting Patriot.
Texas was one of the states where Nixon actually improved on his performance from 1960. He went from 1121310 votes in 1960 to 1227844 votes in 1968, though still behind Humphrey's 1266804 votes.
My friend who introduced me to this site said to post this map of an altered 2011 Canadian Election that I created out of boredom. I used Prime Minister Infinity- Canada 2011 as a simulator to get the results. So here goes nothing:
As you can see, some of this is ASB (For example The Greens winning Labrador and Gilles Duceppe coming in Fourth in his own riding). But overall, I think its an accurate map if the NDP Wave was smaller than it was IOTL. I would love feedback and criticism.
As you can see, some of this is ASB (For example The Greens winning Labrador and Gilles Duceppe coming in Fourth in his own riding). But overall, I think its an accurate map if the NDP Wave was smaller than it was IOTL. I would love feedback and criticism.
Huh. Guess Humphrey's unabashedly liberal stance on civil rights and Nixon's law and order must have attracted a good many voters to his campaign.
Which states did Nixon do worse in 1960?
I have a few issues, but since you used Prime Minister Infinity I'll let them slide. That game never makes sense at the riding by riding level.
Little map I made while considering a 1960 Nixon victory TL. I took a couple of the most competitive states and had them swing to Nixon.
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R-MA): 279 EVs, 49.64%
John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon Johnson (D-TX): 250 EVs, 49.63%
Harry F. Byrd (I-VA): 8 EVs
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R-MA): 279 EVs, 49.64%
John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon Johnson (D-TX): 250 EVs, 49.63%
Harry F. Byrd (I-VA): 8 EVs
From a post in the Polityank thread I noticed that Goldwater in 1964 and FDR in 1936 got about the same number of votes, so I was curious what the electoral map between them would look like. I used the electoral map for 1952 as a compromise between the two years. It's actually a lot more clear cut than I expected.
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