Alternate Electoral Maps III

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  1. The British Empire Not A Well-Known Member

    Apr 12, 2015
    Somewhere in the US
    (Based off of 3 PI Games, to simulate primaries.)



    Mayor of New Haven, Connecticut Roger Sherman (Grey, 1st photo above): 69 delegates (N)
    Governor of Connecticut Samuel Huntington: 22 (RM)
    Former Governor of South Carolina John Rutledge: 17
    Former Agent of Marine Robert Morris: 13
    Judge Robert H. Harrison: 6
    Secretary of State John Milton: 5
    Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay: 4
    Member of the Georgia Executive Council James Armstrong: 0
    Colonel Artemas Ward: 0
    Former Ambassador to the United Kingdom John Adams: 0
    Mr. James Wilson: 0
    Former President of the Continental Congress Henry Laurens: 0
    Major General Horatio Gates: 0
    Mr. Charles Peale: 0
    Former Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army George Washington: 0

    Former President (now Governor) of Pennsylvania Benjamin Franklin: 59 (Green, 2nd map) (N)
    Ambassador to France Thomas Jefferson: 31 (Orange) (RM)
    President of the Massachusetts Senate Samuel Adams: 31 (Light blue)
    Mr. George Mason: 10
    Governor of Virginia Patrick Henry: 7
    Former Governor of New York George Clinton: 0
    Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts Benjamin Lincoln: 0
    Former President of the Congress of the Confederation Richard Henry: 0
    Delegate of the Congress of the Confederation from Virginia James Madison: 0
    Member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives William Maclay: 0
    Mr. Edward Telfair: 0
    Mr. Thomas Paine: 0
    Former President of the Continental Congress John Hancock: 0

    Benjamin Franklin/Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican): 69 EV
    Roger Sherman/Samuel Huntington (Federalist): 0 EV
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  2. Omar04 Gone Fishin' Kicked

    Sep 11, 2018
    No RFK Assassination in 1968


    Robert F. Kennedy (D/MA)/ Pat Brown (D-CA) 33,524872 (50%) 363 EV
    Richard Nixon (R/CA)/ Spiro Agnew (R/MD) 30,553,324 (45%) 165 EV
    George Wallace (AIP/AL)/ Curtis LeMay (R/CA) 3,206,863 (5%) 10 EV

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  3. Omar04 Gone Fishin' Kicked

    Sep 11, 2018
    Lyndon Johnson (D/TX)/ John F. Kennedy (D/MA) 33,995,556 (56%) 515 EV

    Richard Nixon (R/CA)/ Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.(R/MA) 26,628,232 (44%) 22 EV
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  4. The British Empire Not A Well-Known Member

    Apr 12, 2015
    Somewhere in the US


    Former Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army George Washington (Brown): 132
    Former Ambassador to the United Kingdom John Adams: 117
    Mr. C.C. Pinckney: 8
    Former Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay: 7
    Representative of Massachusetts' 7th District Artemas Ward: 0
    Former Governor of South Carolina John Rutledge: 0
    Governor of Connecticut Samuel Huntington: 0
    Former Delegate to the Congress of the Confederation from New York Alexander Hamilton: 0
    Senator from Pennsylvania Robert Morris: 0
    Mr. James Wilson: 0

    Senator from New York Aaron Burr (Yellow): 54
    Vice President Samuel Adams (Light Blue): 37
    Governor of New York George Clinton (Green): 31
    Governor of Massachusetts John Hancock (Purple): 6
    Senator from Virginia Richard Henry Lee: 0
    Representative of Virginia's 5th District James Madison: 0
    Former Senator from Pennsylvania William Maclay: 0
    President Thomas Jefferson: 0
    Former Governor of Virginia: 0

    George Washington/John Adams (Federalist): 132 EV
    Aaron Burr/Samuel Adams (Democratic-Republican): 0 EV
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  5. JoeyB2198 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2012
    A Thousand Points of Light: Dakota 2016 Gubernatorial Election


    Dakota is a particularly unusual state in a number of ways. First, it has a relatively high Scandinavian and Native American population, and was key to the rise of the modern Christian Democratic and Native Rights parties. Second, and more significantly for the state's national impact, its Germans predominantly originate from the Catholic southwest of the old country rather than the Protestant north. As a result, Dakota was a key state for the Center party in its prime, and its favorite sons played a vital role in reconsolidating the German vote under the Social Democrats in the '90s. To this day, Dakota Germans vote to the left of of the party as a whole, causing discontent in the Protestant population.

    2018 Midterms (semi-canon)
    North Carolina
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  6. PierceJJones Notice me senpai Klobuchar

    Feb 2, 2019
    Speaking of which. I want to actually do something sort of in-universe (But with some different "head cannon" parties). For a local election.
  7. Adam The Nerd A weird nerd

    Jan 3, 2018
    How do you make something like that?
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  8. Dinstruction New Member

    Mar 28, 2019

    An alternate 2018 senate map if Hillary Clinton won in 2016.

    In 2016, Hillary Clinton narrowly wins the presidency by eking out victories in Pennsylvania and Florida with margins of less than 1%, whilst losing Michigan and Wisconsin. Despite concerning comments made on the campaign trail, Trump concedes gracefully. Trump quits the Republican party as an independent, and spends the next year building the infrastructure for a populist media competitor to Fox News. To the surprise of many, Trump deletes his Twitter account to focus on running the new network, which has already poached talent from Fox News such as Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity.

    The 2016 Senate elections remain unchanged. Clinton enters the presidency in a very weak political position. The "blue wall" is on life support, Republicans control Congress, and the media focus on the email server investigation is pivoting to a growing scandal regarding the sale of American uranium to Russia during her tenure as Secretary of State. Her insistence of Russian influence on the Trump campaign falls onto deaf ears, as nobody believes a few sketchy Facebook posts could possibly influence an entire American election.

    Republicans maintain control of the House, but earn a net loss of 5 seats thanks to changing demographics in suburban Texas. The House was barely expected to change, but a Republican net loss was not inconceivable because they already held a majority of swing districts with not much areas for improvement.

    As for the Senate, the Democrats faced utter disaster because of an unpopular president combined with a historically awful map.

    With Tim Kaine (D-VA) ascending to the vice presidency, civil rights activist Richard Spencer wins the special election for Republicans, as his "All Lives Matter" movement picks up steam following a massive peaceful demonstration at the University of Virginia with attendance of over 20,000. President Clinton harshly criticizes the demonstration, pointing out the Neo-Nazis in attendence, but the media and general public largely dismiss the white supremacists as a fringe minority that isn't reflective of the white men's rights movement. As for the scheduled Senate election in 2018, Republican Ed Gillespie easily defeats Democrat Ralph Northam.

    Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) is the only Republican running in a Clinton-won state, but is not seen as a serious pickup opportunity due to the sheer amount of defense Democrats are forced to play. He holds onto his seat by an eight point margin, suggesting he might have been vulnerable under a Republican presidency.

    Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) emerges as a prominent anti-Clinton voice, criticizing her "immoral" presidency, earning him an easy re-election in a solid red state despite his opposition to Donald Trump two years prior.

    Sens. Tester (D-MT), Heitkamp (D-ND), McCaskill (D-MO), and Donnelly (D-IN) retire in lieu of facing overwhelming odds in solid red states, and Republicans easily pick up those seats.

    Governor Rick Scott (R-FL) ousts the incumbent Bill Nelson by a whopping 15 point margin, calling into question Florida's status as a swing state.

    Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia leaves the Democratic party, but does not caucus with the Democrats like Bernie Sanders or Angus King. Former CEO and convicted felon Don Blankenship wins the Republican nomination, but Manchin easily cruises to a victory, thanks to his strong independent branding and suppressed Republican turnout.

    President Clinton appointed Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) as Secretary of State, due to their close relationship and the view that a New York senate seat would be an easy Democratic hold. Governor Cuomo appointed Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley to fill the vacancy (whose House seat is filled by a little-known bartender), but in a stunning upset in the Democratic Primary, Crowley loses to TV personality and civil rights activist Al Sharpton. Sharpton's anti-Semitic comments from the 1980s come to light, prompting a mass defection of the Jewish vote to the Republican party. Sharpton's support for reparations and some high profile disputes with the NYPD causes Democratic support to plummet everywhere in the state, save for a few gentrified districts in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Despite all this, Sharpton was seen as a favorite to win the election due to New York's heavy Democratic lean. Republican Rep. John Katko runs an underfunded campaign, but pulls off an upset victory by 2%.

    Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) is indicted on federal corruption charges and is subsequently found guilty at trial. Menendez refuses to resign, even whilst he awaits sentencing. The Senate expels him in an overwhelming 98-0 vote (Sen. Cory Booker abstains), the first expulsion since the Civil War. With the New Jersey Democratic party in shambles due to the Menendez scandal, Chris Christie wins the senate election against Jon Corzine in a rematch of the 2009 governor race.

    President Clinton appoints Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) as Secretary of Defense, in the most contested cabinet appointment of her presidency. Republicans criticize his lack of military experience, arguing the only reason he was appointed was because of some pre-existing backroom deal. Franken is approved by the Senate by a 51-50 vote with Vice President Kaine breaking the tie along with a few moderate Republicans voting in support. The two Minnesota Senate elections has incumbent Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) winning in a tighter than expected race, whilst former governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) wins the Senate special election.

    In the only bright spot for Democrats in the Senate, incumbent Ted Cruz (R-TX) narrowly loses to insurgent congressman Beto O'Rourke. O'Rourke's charisma and support from the growing urban centers pushes him over the top. In a surprising twist, Donald Trump throws his support and rallies his base behind O'Rourke, not because he agrees with his policies, but because Trump blames Cruz's insistence on dragging out the presidential primary for his loss in the general election. Cruz's loss arguably demonstrates the huge amount of political influence wielded by Donald Trump, even after losing the presidency.
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  9. True Grit Creek

    Aug 31, 2013
    Zero chance the Republicans win New York (let alone in a scenario where they lose Texas of all places in a wave year), but seems pretty accurate other than that.
  10. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

    Jan 29, 2017
    Jamaica (I Wish)
    Also Richard Spencer would do worse in Virginia than Corey Stewart did in 2018 - even in a Clinton midterm.
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  11. Dinstruction New Member

    Mar 28, 2019
    This would be the Democratic version of the Alabama special election. Ted Cruz is also a uniquely divisive incumbent.

    In this timeline, Richard Spencer and the alt-right are perceived much differently.
  12. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

    May 30, 2015
    They won ITTL and are still vilified, so, how?
  13. PierceJJones Notice me senpai Klobuchar

    Feb 2, 2019
    Maybe they aren't as prominent due to their support of a controversial presidency and possibly sympathetic due being nominally intelligent & well educated with few job opportunities. That and the general trend of the media taking up more "Trumpist" viewpoints to criticize the Clinton administration than OTL.
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  14. True Grit Creek

    Aug 31, 2013
    That's the thing, if Cruz already beat Beto IOTL in a Democratic wave year, I don't see how he'd lose in a Republican wave year.

    And if you're looking for an Alabama/Doug Jones analogue, there are a lot better options than New York, particularly since Gillibrand was never once brought up as a possible cabinet appointee prior to election day (and considering everyone expected Clinton to win cabinet speculation got a lot of press), and I seriously doubt in a Clinton wins timeline the Democrats would've moved enough to the left for Sharpton to win the primary. You'd be better off going with somewhere like Minnesota or Pennsylvania (both much easier Republican targets in any event), or even somewhere like Massachusetts or New Jersey's other senate seat, seeing as Warren and Booker were both rumored for posts.
  15. Adam The Nerd A weird nerd

    Jan 3, 2018
    I've been making predictions for the goal of having fun, and am taking no accuracy into consideration. I haven't completed the House one, nor have I touched it in a while, but I might go back to making it,
  16. Dinstruction New Member

    Mar 28, 2019
    My thinking is that Trump and his base would take a turn towards the left, allying themselves with the "Bernie bros" in a general populist message. Trump demonstrates his political strength and his ideological fluidity by successfully backing a Democrat in an otherwise tough race.

    A Republican upset is very possible in New York, believe it or not. Not too long ago, George Pataki won the governorship, and Rudy Guliani won the NYC mayoral race. I live in New York, and the state isn't as ideologically liberal as its elections might have you believe. The state Democratic party is just very well organized and has a strong presence in the media.
  17. Rosa Luxemburg Homosatanist

    Aug 7, 2016
    Canton, Georgia
    Definitely not. While some Trump supporters in the Midwest and plains, as well as other areas could potentially swibg to Bernie, we would not see Trump himself or the vast majority of his base switching allegiance. I say this as someone who has grown up in Trump country. A Hillary administration would only increase Republican turnout for Cruz
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  18. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

    Jan 29, 2017
    Jamaica (I Wish)
    1980 with all of Anderson's votes going to Carter:


    Carter still loses, but only by a margin of 207-331 in the electoral college and 47.62-50.75 in the popular vote.

    Likewise, here's 1980 with all of Anderson's votes going to Reagan:


    Reagan absolutely obliterates Carter in both the EC and PV. he wins the electoral college by a margin of 517-21 and the popular vote by a margin of 57.36-41.01.
  19. True Grit Creek

    Aug 31, 2013
    I don’t doubt that a Republican can potentially win in New York, I just don’t think the scenario you have is particularly likely. Not only is Gillibrand unlikely to go anywhere, but even if she does then a Hillary presidency isn’t going to shift the Democrats left enough to the point where Sharpton can win a primary, even against Crowley (and even then Crowley’s more likely to stay in the house given his leadership positions and IMO unlikely to face a serious primary challenge in 2018).

    Like, IOTL Trump has caused the Democrats to naturally shift left, and even then someone as problematic and disliked by the left as Andrew Cuomo was able to win 65% of the vote against a credible left-wing challenger. In a Hillary wins scenario I really doubt we’re going to get a scenario where Sharpton wins the Democratic primary.
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