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  1. leecannon_ If I'm not posting I don't have serive/power/both.

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    Another map for my Laborers timeline, SC Gubernatorial Election 1930.
    Laborers Mary Gordon Ellis wins with 40.6% of the vote. Ellis joined the Laborers Party after she felt she had been the victim of a rigged democratic primary election that her rival Hugh Purdy won, she was encouraged to join the Laborers by Margaret Etta Maycoll, wife of then Rep. John P. Maycoll. Margaret was also the one to convince Ellis to become more involved at the state house and encouraged her to run for governor. At the time the laborers had steadily grown to be a sizable minority at the house, and Ellis became a prominent member. Ellis's victory in the governor's race stemmed not only from the split in votes on the democrarts side between Ibra C. Blackwood, who won the primary, and Olin D. Johnson, who lost in a runoff, but also much better turnout for the laborers than the democrats. Many steadfast Democrat voters were truthfully unaware that there was an actual election after the primary in June, especially in rural regions. Although The race was covered by papers like the Post and Courier many voters assumed that Blackwood would win an easy victory over Johnson and Ellis. Ellis was able to make sure all eligible Laborers voted, she naturally attracted poor whites in the cities of Charleston, Columbia, and Greenville, but also ran a campaign on improving rural schools throughout the state. Upon her victory Ellis became the third female governor in american history ever and the first elected in her own right. She became a symbolic figure of the Laborers rise in Southern Politics and as the end of the Democrat's dominance which had last roughly 60 years since reconstruction ended.

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    After the election Olin D. Johnston was effectively expelled from the democratic party as many (rightly) blamed him for this very embarrassing loss. In response Johnston, who was already a fairly left wing democrat, officially switched to the Laborers Party and successfully unseated longtime Sen. Ellison D. Smith, in a very ugly election that some saw as the dying of the post-bellum south, while others just saw it as the result of Fiorello's long coattails. Nonetheless South Carolina became the first state in the Southeast, and the second on the eastcoast (after Rhode Island) to have both senators and the Governor be of the Laborers Party
     
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    This is a fan continuation of @MaskedPickle 's timeline, A Giant Sucking Sound. The original ended with Jeb Bush winning the 2012 election, and I've gone ahead with a story for the 2016 election:

    The 2016 presidential election would go down as one of the most interesting in history. Following Jeb Bush denying Russ Feingold a second term, several Democrats were discussed as possible successors. But it was always the frontrunner in the eyes of the pundits and public to win the primaries, New York senator Jon F. Kennedy Jr, who won the nomination. The popular liberal had emerged as one of the most outspoken of the senate Democrats, a loud critic of the Bush administration. Kennedy was seen by some as a likely heir to Senate Majority Leader Barbara Mikukski, but the launch of his official campaign put that speculation to rest. Large crowds gathered to listen to his rousing campaign speeches, and he had the backing of all major party figures. For running mate, Kennedy selected Minnesota senator Amy Kobluchar, a midwestern ticket balancer from a swing state that had gone to the Freedomites two times in a row. It was seen as a safe but popular pick by the people, and Kobluchar was well liked by female voters. At the National Convention in Detroit, Michigan, Kennedy gave a heartfelt speech on liberal values, referencing his late father. It was seen as the best speech of his career.

    For the Freedom Party meanwhile, it was unclear who would be the initial frontrunner. Buddy Roemer and Lincoln Chafee briefly lead the polls, but the victor would be the candidate farthest to the left. Jello Biafra came from unlikely origins. Originally a rock musician, Biafra had been part of the 90s “Purple Wave”, recruited by party boss Paul Tsongas to run for congress in ultra-liberal San Francisco. Biafra beat the odds, becoming one of Washington’s most eccentric, never above a profanity or insult when at the podium. With his socialist policies, Republicans loathed him with rage and Democrats saw him a gadfly. Following retirement from Congress, further adventures awaited as mayor of San Francisco and later still Governor of California. He had previous run for president in 2004, but during the primaries lost to former New York governor Donald Trump, who latter won the general. Biafra was not above lampooning the disgraced former president, saying that if had been president in 2004, he would’ve handled Hurricane Katrina, the 2004 recession, and the Korean Missile Crisis better. For running mate, Rhode Island senator and primary opponent Lincoln Chafee was the choice, or as Biafra said, “the best fucking man for the job.” Chafee, representing the party’s centrist factions, helped put to ease the minds of those worried about Biafra, such as the Freedom Party’s senate leader, John Huntsman Jr. The National Convention in New Orleans, Louisiana was a smashing success, and Biafra wild up the party’s socialist factions in Colorado and New England. It looked like the Freedom Party might make it this year.

    Republicans meanwhile had confidence in President Jeb Bush and Vice President J. C. Watts. Bush easily won the primaries with no major opponents. In Phoenix, Arizona, Republicans from all over the country came to see the President speak at the National Convention. Bush sung of his accomplishments, both oversees and at home, and took on the Freedom Party, a favorite punching bag of the GOP, viciously. Democrats too were not from critique, with Senator Kennedy being “a good man, but the same time a man of no solutions. If he is president then the only victory will be his own.” Some said Bush had a soft spot for Kennedy because both of their fathers had been assassinated. Either way, Watts made a great attack dog against the New Yorker, appearing in attack ads in swing states such as Iowa and Missouri.

    The debates were some of the most watched in history. In a memorable moment, Senator Kennedy criticized Biafra’s past as a musician “who sang poor taste songs with a band name that assailed my late father and uncle,”, to which his opponent replied, “unless you talk about fucking policy rather than take a moral high ground, that band’s name is gonna include you too, Johnny.” Biafra was by far the most entertaining part of the debates. He called Bush “a fucking fascist racist sorry ass excuse who’d rather nuke China than teach kids the alphabet”. Watts was “the biggest fucking Uncle Tom this side of Clarence Thomas” and Klobuchar was “kinda of a bitch when it came to healthcare”. The FCC hated it, but the Freedom Party’s base adored the man. On Saturday Night Live, Biafra was portrayed as singing the praises of the Castro and Kim families and schemed to see “how many Republicans can this gulag hold?” When asked about this satire in a 60 Minutes interview, the candidate joked “I got to sue these guys for plagiarism.”

    When Election Day finally arrived, everybody stayed up extra late, still not knowing who won once they finally slumbered. When they awoke, they found a deadlocked electoral college. No candidate getting 270 electoral votes was not seen as unlikely, it had happened in 2004, but everybody groaned regardless. Now the choice of President and Vice President went to Congress. Despite campaigns from some in the Democrats and Freedomites to vote for a compromise candidate, eventually enough congressmen outside the GOP decided to jump ship and vote for a second Bush term. He had after all, won the most votes, 248 of them, and had won the popular vote as well. It was only fair to the American people. “The fucking electoral college” was the new opponent of California’s governor, with him “swearing to get my fellow Freedomites to eliminate it by 2020.” As for Senator Kennedy, the pundits were right after all with him taking up Mikukski’s old position after her retirement that year. It seemed him and President Bush were destined to be opponents still for another four years.

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  3. nofynofie Well-Known Member

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    Nope. Sanders is independent (yellow). And nobody dies.
     
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    The Seventh Party System: Part XXXVII
    Map of the United States
    Part I - Metropotamia
    Part II - Alta California
    Part III - North Carolina
    Part IV - New Jersey
    Part V - Adams
    Part VI - Alabama
    Part VII - Rhode Island
    Part VIII - Sequoyah
    Part IX - Assenisipia
    Part X - East Florida
    Part XI - Tennessee
    Part XII - Kansas
    Part XIII - Dakota
    Part XIV - Arizona
    Part XV - Delaware
    Part XVI - Oregon
    Part XVII - Ozark
    Part XVIII - New Hampshire
    Part XIX - Western Connecticut
    Part XX - New York
    Part XXI - Santo Domingo
    Part XXII - South Carolina
    Part XXIII - Baja California
    Part XXIV - Chersonesus
    Part XXV - Canal Zone Territory
    Part XXVI - West Florida
    Part XXVII - Missouri
    Part XXVIII - Colorado
    Part XXIX - Trinidad and Tobago
    Part XXX - Pennsylvania
    Part XXXI - Wisconsin
    Part XXXII - Lincoln
    Part XXXIII - Deseret
    Part XXXIV - Platte
    Part XXXV - Kiribati
    Part XXXVI - New Mexico


    Maine has always been an interesting paradox, being known for both its moderate Republicans and extremist right wing, its dominant party system and its large multitude of secondary parties underneath, a state both stuck in the past and the cutting edge of the future and in 2018 these contradictions butt heads together in a spectacular display.

    In order to understand Maine's contradictions, one must first know the history of their political system. Ever since its inception Maine had been a swing state, becoming a battleground for the Democrats and the Whigs, the Democrats and the Republicans, the Progressives and the Republicans, and then the National Unionists and the Republicans. This lead to the popular idiom "As Maine goes, so goes the nation." However when the Conservative Revolution and the following Democratic Coup splintered America's major parties everything changed. While the base of the Republican party, cosmopolitan middle class and upper class Americans had remained undivided the National Union had been irrevocably shattered, with the young activists moving to the Greens, the loyalist working class forming Labor, the conservative working class forming Social Credit, and the patriotic jingoists jumping ship to Constitution. While the Republicans also faced defectors of the religious sort to the Constitution, as well as those extreme right wing economics to the Libertarians, their voter base had a strong plurality which was unbeatable by any other party.

    Thus, while the Republicans would always make supply and confidence agreements in the House in the Senate the use of FPTP allowed them to hold eternal majorities that often exceeded 66%. In this sense Maine became known as a contradiction of diverse parties as well as a monolithic ruling party.

    This Republican dominated system would first be challenged in 2010, when the Second Great Depression swung the middle class over to Labor, resulting in the very first non-Republican plurality since the Conservative Revolution. Yet even with a Labor lead government in the House the Senate retained its solid Republican majority, resulting in a vote of no confidence that prevented a Labor government, resulting in a Republican lead one in 2011.

    However this defense had still come at a grave cost, as more and more voters began to see the Republican party as more interested in simply holding onto power than governing. As the Second Great Depression continued to linger on with end this distrust turned into pure anger as anti-establishment on both the left and right began to rise. This lead to the election of 2015 resulting in a record number of Greens, Independents, and Libertarians which voted down any attempts to form a Republican government. Unfortunately for the anti-Republicans the disorganization of the opposition prevented any party from taking the Republicans place, and once again the Republicans ultimately managed to retain power by calling another election in 2016.

    With both the left and the extremists having been unable to end the Republicans 42 year long reign, retired Republican Angus Cutler, sought to try a new approach, radical centrism. Seeking to emulate the success of the Moderate Moose Party in Rhode Island he aimed to lead Maine down a path of social liberalism and Third Way economics to moderate the right ward shift that the Republicans had underwent through their alliance with the Constitution party. Prior to the elections of 2010 the Republican party of Maine had been just as moderate as the rest of New England. However under the leadership of Governor Susan LePage the party began to worship the cult of austerity, regressing to the levels of the Great Plains Republicans by ending all unemployment benefits and abolishing its public pension system. With everyone from moderate Republicans to senior citizens outraged at these levels of privatization support for Angus Cutler as Maine's key to bringing back centrist conservatism.

    However even Angus Cutler himself was shocked at just how successful his Whig Party turned out to be, capturing a staggering 27 seats to capture the Senate in its entirety, while also winning a plurality of the seats in the House. With the Republican party reduced to a shell of its former self Party Leader Susan Page resigned in failure and Deputy Leader Ernest Cianchette agreed to a humiliating supply and confidence agreement with the Whigs, winning in return for the sole concession not to raising income taxes.

    As such, for the first time since the Conservative Revolution the Republican party had been unseated from power, and with Cutler moving Maine towards MMP it now became the dominant electoral system for upper houses in New England. Coupled with gains by Republicans in more Western branches the Eastern Establishment now faces a severe identity crisis between the more moderate Dewey Republicans and more conservative Buckley Republicans.

    Government:
    Whigs - Named after the Whig-Labor party of Delaware it is a radically centrist party formed by former Republican Governor Angus Cutler. After Cutler saw the economic extremism of the GOP under Susan LePage he viewed a new centrist party as the only solution to bring back moderate policies to Maine. By not only bringing back unemployment benefits and the pensions system, but also reforming the senate to a more fair MMP system the Whig party has risen dramatically in popularity and may even win an absolute majority in the 2020.

    Supply:
    Republicans - The party of economic conservatives and social moderates the GOP of Maine underwent a sharp right turn through a program of extreme austerity in an attempt to combat the Second Great Depression. However this austerity only heightened Maine's poverty and with the highest unemployment rate of all Northeastern states the Pine Tree State's economy has fallen into ruin. This loss has also had nationwide effects as it has left the Eastern Establishment of the GOP in a very vulnerable state nationally, and many speculate that the long forgotten conservative majority might launch a coup against the socially liberal leadership in a fight over the very soul of the Republican party.
    Greens - A socially liberal with left of center economics they represent the growing environmental movement of Maine. In this year's election they were able to win seats in the Senate for the first time due to the split between Whigs and Republicans as well as Social Credit and Labor. And with Angus Cutler vowing to add more environmental regulations the Green Party of Maine are happy to see their movement gaining real success.

    Opposition:
    Labor - The traditional party of the working class, they have suffered greatly in Maine due to left wing splits from the Greens and right wing splits from Social Credit. Nevertheless, they still slightly edge out both parties, and despite losing voteshare in the 2018 election they actually managed to win Senate seats for the first time since 2011 due to splits in the Whig and Republican voting rendering the GOP's gerrymandering efforts useless.
    Constitution - The farthest right party in Maine they are the party of deeply religious protestants who value the Bible over the law. And despite a significant minority of their voters being former National Unionists the party is also extremely right wing economically and wants for a government so small that Churches can overpower it. They managed to get alarming close to such a vision as a result of their alliance with the Republicans from 2011 to 2018. Having their seat total been reduced due to surging turnout for the Whig party by formerly apathetic voters the Constitutionists will now have to wait in the shadows again and hope to retake power one time when the general public gets too apathetic again.
    Social Credit - A center of right party which advocates for an isolationist America that focuses on the needs of the white working class they have gained massively in the state of Maine with its 95% white population being largely indifferent to the needs of non-white America. In this election they managed to gain a few seats in the House as well as their first seat in the Senate, yet with their ideological opposites, the Whigs, having now gained power the party is steaming with indignation.
    Libertarians - A right wing party which has mostly socially liberal views besides for the belief that life begins at conception and feminism is a socialist conspiracy, they have been growing steadily in popularity ever since the start of the Second Great Depression, claiming that the Republicans are too cozy with Big Business and that only "pure" capitalism can solve the economic crisis. However the Libertarians are still not as popular as in neighboring New Hampshire and have yet to truly break through into mainstream politics.
    Independents - A collection of minor localist parties, Maine's swing state attitudes have allowed minor parties to thrive in the rural backwaters of the state. While these politicians can vary all the way from far left to far right most remain ideologically identical to the Republicans and in close elections like 2011 they willing sell their votes away to the GOP in return for earmarks that benefit their hometowns.

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  5. Utgard96 basically a load of twaddle about freedom

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    That's lovely. Nice to see some history too - your setting always had a wonderfully insane feel to it.
     
  6. naraht Well-Known Member

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    Nope. Lived there :) Arlington is a county, Alexandria is a City and never the twain shall meet. And cities have Mayors, Arlington doesn't...
     
  7. Caprice Psephologising since 2011

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    Maine gubernatorial election, 1821

    After Governor King resigned to take part in a treaty commission, State Senator William D. Williamson became acting governor until the ensuing election. American Party conventions across the state nominated Parris, the firebrand candidate. The losing candidate, the more moderate Joshua Wingate, led his supporters (estimated at about 15% of the total electorate) over to the opposing Unionist candidate, Ezekiel Whitman. These "Whitman Americans" would swing three counties, and nearly a fourth, to Whitman's side in the general election, but Parris won it in the end with 53% of the vote to Whitman's 45%.

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    For this one, I consolidated Whitman (F) and Wingate (D-R)'s OTL totals under TTL's Whitman. Here are the county totals:

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    The Americans are interventionist, while the Unionists support preservation of the Union above all else. This party system is (probably; not entirely sure) limited to New England and developed around 1812.
     
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  8. nofynofie Well-Known Member

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    No ideas? :)
     
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  9. DPKdebator Hmm...

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    This reminds me of the Generation Z electoral map from that nationwide survey they did before the election.
     
  10. True Grit Creek

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    Trump vs. Sanders vs. ...Jim Matheson? No idea which Democrat could do that badly yet still win Utah
     
  11. nofynofie Well-Known Member

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    Close...
     
  12. nofynofie Well-Known Member

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    Anyway, like in 1872, Democrats hated the Republican incumbent (this time Trump) so much and decided to officially support a candidate who is not a Democrat (to attract more conservative voters) - Evan McMullin. Democratic voters were extremely unhappy with that idea and almost half of them voted for Sanders (an independent candidate).

    So
    Trump 40%
    McMullin 30%
    Sanders 25%
    Others 5%

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  13. nofynofie Well-Known Member

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    Can somebody make a map if Republicans nominated Joseph Mccarthy in 1952?
    That would be very interesting. :)
     
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  15. Oppo Nationalize Five Guys

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    adlai landslide

    new deal forever

    mmmmmmmm
     
  16. Keeganc2020 Well-Known Member

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    IMG_4282.jpg Billionaire Oprah Winfrey and General William McRavean
    51.23%
    413 ECV
    75,420,690 votes
    Vs
    Donald Trump and Mike Pence
    39.64%
    105 ECV
    58,148,882 votes

    Former Ohio Governor John Kasich and Maine Senator Susan Collins
    12.92%
    6 officially from Utah 14 Faithless Electors from SC, KS, IN,AK,MT,MO,ID
    10,656,907 votes

    4,342,124 Others
     
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  17. Peyton Stephen Colbert 2020

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    I'm surprised Montana and Missouri don't go blue here. Although both have been shifting more right since 2008, there's no way they don't go blue if Texas and Georgia do. Especially with the vote splitting.
     
  18. Rosa Luxemburg Homosatanist

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    With GA I can see them staying but if Texas goes, so do they
     
  19. Keeganc2020 Well-Known Member

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    It's a land slide in the RC but closer to 1996 or 1992 due to the huge third party vote. I think MT and MO are as close as 2008
     
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    IMG_4225.jpg IMG_4222.jpg IMG_4221.jpg A mode realistic Oprah Timeline

    Oprah Winfrey-Terry McAuliffe
    48.99%
    64,985,713
    Vs
    Donald Trump-Mike Pence
    44.45%
    59,991,952

    John Kasich-John Hickenlooper
    5.23%

    Others 1.33%


    Winfrey won
    86% in DC to Trumps 2%
    60.47% in California to Trumps 27.19%
    66.95% in Hawaii to Trumps 19.23%
    58.36% in Vermont to Trumps 30.03%
    In LA County Winfrey won 68% to Trumps 17% , 63% in Cook County to Trumps 24.5%, 57.63% to Trumps 33.49% in Arlington VA.

    Vote. Turnout
    Winfrey, Trump, Kasich

    White 43% 46% 11% 69%
    Black 90% 3% 7% 66%
    Hispanic 67% 24% 9% 51%
    Asian 64% 26% 10% 52%
    Other 62% 32% 6% 49%

    Flordia 0.004% 1,348 votes
    New Hampshire 0.019 998 votes
    Michigan 0.1% 9,923 votes
    Minnesota 0.5% 23,564 Votes
    Pennsylvania 0.52% 27,753 Votes
    Nebraska CD 2 0.78% 6,564 votes
    North Carolina 1.03%
    Maine 1.25%
    Georgia 2.09%
    Maine CD 2 2.36%
    Arizona 3.23%
    Nevada 4.46%
    Colorado 4.89%
    Virginia 5.21%

    Kasich -Hickenlooper
    Utah 26.27%
    Arizona 12.6%
    Idaho 9.86%
    Ohio 7.23%
    Virginia 6.76%
    New Hampshire 6.20%
    Florida 5.39%
    Alaska 5.12%
    Montana 4.79%
    Colorado 4.04%

    Pennsylvania called by the AP for Trump at 3:06 AM November 4th.

    Michigan called by the AP for Winfrey
    5:24 AM November 4th

    Minnesota called by AP for Winfrey 9:35 AM November 4th

    Florida recount officially filed November 6th

    New Hampshire called by the AP for Trump November 8.

    Florida recount temporary suspended on November 12 as South Florida sufferes a direct hit by Category 5 Hurricane Vanessa

    Florida Recount started again November 18nth acted much national and state wide debate. Vanessa displaces 175 thousand with in the state and roughly 20 thousand outside the state temporarily displaces the citizens in Miami-Dade, Monroe, Boward,Palm Beach Counties. 136 Americans are killed mostly due to downing,

    November 14th Florida govonor Gwen Graham requests 1.5 billion in emergency Disaster relief. US federal disaster relief such as Fema as well as many Costal states such as South Carolina and Mississippi are already conpleatly depleated their own state funds with a record setting 5 category 3 or greater hurricane having made land fall through the summer along the Eastern Gulf Coast, and north Florida up through New Jersey.

    November 26th Florida is called for Winfrey and is preliminarily awarded its 29 ECV thus earning her a total of 274 ECV to Trumps 264, hence winning the election. Trump administration files a series of injunctions and lawsuit against the State of Florida demanding another recount and trump takes to Twitter, accusing democrats of shipping thousands of Puerto Ricans and Haitians among other " illegal voters to rig the election.

    Trump refuses to concede the election.
    The relief efforts in Florida are hampared by the lack of leadership and attention of President Trump. His tweets grow more insane by the day while he also refuses to appears publicly. A Gallop poll taken December 2 of 2020 shows support for impeachment at nearly 58% with 90% of Democrats, 74% of independents and even 53% of Republicans saying it's the right thing to do. Polling also shows Trumps approval rating diving past 30% for the first time in his presidency reaching just under 23% on Inauguration Day. Newly elected Democratic Senators from Maine, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa, Colorado, Arizona, Montana, and Alaska, are asked by the questioned by the media either they will attempt to try Trump as the 117nth Democratic controlled Congress House 252, Senate 59, is widely expected to do once it is sworn in January 3rd. The House votes 272 to 163 for impeachment. The Senate begins to try the president January 5th and many others ask to invoke the 25th amendment to give vice president Pence the powers of the presidency starting January 8th at noon EST. The Senate Comvicts President Trump on a vote of 69 to 26 with 5 republicans not casting a vote. Mike Pence is Sworn into office in the Oval Office with out any formal media coverage on January 8th at 6:48 pm. The internet explpdes with rumors that Trump is being physically removed from the White House by the capital police but this is never confirmed. The Far Right calls it a socialists Coup and small random public acts of protest are seen across American cities, but the general mood even among most conservatives is that Trumps needs to go and they'll try again in 2024. On January 21st Oprah Winfrey becomes the 47nth president and the first Woman, and woman of color to hold the office. 3.3 million people attend the day's festivities with more then 260 million Americans watching via cable, broadcast, or live stream.
     
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