Alternate Electoral Maps II

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  1. Pericles Well-Known Member

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    2020 US presidential election
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    Joe Biden/Kamala Harris-Democratic: 374 EV 52.2%
    President Donald Trump/Mike Pence-Republican: 164 EV 44.2%
    I'm not actually sure about the Democratic candidate but I made this map using the 538 swingomatic(which will probably need to be updated with the 2016 results but still) to get this result.
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  2. Prussian1871 Well-Known Member

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    Put Beshear on either the top or bottom of the ticket then maybe.
     
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  5. Gonzo Grumpy Poujadist Norn Person

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    Nice - would Vermont have swung as much as it did OTL in 1988 to the Democrats without the neighbouring Dukakis on the ticket (instead replaced by the moderate-to-conservative Democrat from Tennessee)?
     
  6. DPKdebator Hmm...

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    Zogby also has Warren winning Missouri, which is not happening unless Trump shoots somebody.
     
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  7. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    I think Gore probably wins it by 1-2%. It'd be very close.
     
  8. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

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    2012 Clintonverse

    Hillary Clinton, the first female President, led a moderately successful term, though a fair bit of blue-collar workers do not feel as though shes stuck true to her values. She has also moderated a fair bit during her tenure. If there is popular demand for this to be more indeppth, ill consider doing a TLIAD

    Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama: 54.78%
    Newt Gingrich/Rudy Guliani: 45.12%
     
  9. Gentleman Biaggi Leader of the bisexual agenda

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    Speaking of 2008...
    Obama wins every state he got at least 40% in
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    Obama: 491
    McCain: 47
     
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  10. DPKdebator Hmm...

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    2004 if Bush won every state he got over 40% in:
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    Bush: 516
    Kerry: 22
     
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  11. Gentleman Biaggi Leader of the bisexual agenda

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    2000 if Bush won every state he got 40% in:
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    Bush: 474
    Gore: 64
     
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    The Seventh Party System: Part XXXIII
    Map of the United States
    Part I - Metropotamia
    Part II - Alta California
    Part III - North Carolina
    Part IV - New Jersey
    Part V - Adams
    Part VI - Alabama
    Part VII - Rhode Island
    Part VIII - Sequoyah
    Part IX - Assenisipia
    Part X - East Florida
    Part XI - Tennessee
    Part XII - Kansas
    Part XIII - Dakota
    Part XIV - Arizona
    Part XV - Delaware
    Part XVI - Oregon
    Part XVII - Ozark
    Part XVIII - New Hampshire
    Part XIX - Western Connecticut
    Part XX - New York
    Part XXI - Santo Domingo
    Part XXII - South Carolina
    Part XXIII - Baja California
    Part XXIV - Chersonesus
    Part XXV - Canal Zone Territory
    Part XXVI - West Florida
    Part XXVII - Missouri
    Part XXVIII - Colorado
    Part XXIX - Trinidad and Tobago
    Part XXX - Pennsylvania
    Part XXXI - Wisconsin
    Part XXXII - Lincoln


    If Deseret is known for one thing, it is being the land of Mormons. However lesser known is the interesting party system which lies underneath the mass of it's eternal ruling party, the People's Party.

    Ever since Deseret was admitted as a state in 1906, which the state gained much later than its neighbors due to its reluctance to ban polygamy, the state has been under the rule of the People's Party. The political arm of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints the party's near total obedience to the Quorum of Twelve Apostles has caused it to continually get in trouble with the nation's courts, and the party was banned by the Supreme Court in 1920 for violating the separation of Church and State. Nevertheless, after three more successor parties were formed, and three of them were yet again banned, Washington DC stopped enforcing its law and let the People's Party exist lest the Mormons raise their flag in open rebellion. However under the more liberal and progressive National Unionist LBJ trouble with the Mormons flared up once again, as he sought to end the People's Party authoritarian reign.

    However the act of dissolving Deseret's government and replacing it with a board of National Unionist generals was seen as tyrannical by most of the country, most of Southerners who say this act as yet another breach of State's Rights. As a result, when the election of 1972 brought the new Conservative party into power, one of Nixon's first acts as President was to remove the troops from Deseret and relegalize the People's Party. With the infamous 29th Amendment prohibiting the federal government from banning state political parties, the existence of the People's Party was thus kept safe for perpetuity.

    Take the Conservative Revolution as a chance to consolidate their power, the People's Party proceeded to transform the Senate into a fully proportional chamber with solely Mormon representatives, giving the People's Party 100% of its seats. However when the Civil Rights Act was reinstated in 1981 the People's Party soon ran into legal trouble yet again, with the Supreme Court ruling their Mormon Senate to be just as unconstitutional as Sequoyah's Council of Elders.

    It was in light of this development that the current Deseret Senate came into being, divided upon confessional lines as opposed to racial ones. This confessional Senate also helped spur the development of Atheists and Agnostics United which first won seats in 1998 and has continued to grow steadily since. Pointing out how Deseret is the only state besides Sequoyah to still enforce Prohibition and the only state besides Adams to criminalize sex before marriage the AAU constantly holds protests against the theocracy.

    Nevertheless, the state of Deseret remains as a whole a mostly right wing one, with only the Labor party and the Communards of Christ being left of center. The most recent election of 2018 enforced this trend as the People's Party held steady and continued to hold its majority of 92 seats in the House and renewed its supply and confidence agreement with the Constitutionists in the Senate.

    Government:
    People's Party - The party of Mormons, in the state of Deseret they have held government uninterrupted ever since the Conservative Revolution. Believing in far right social conservatism and trickle down economics they have turned Deseret into the most theocratic state in America. While a small minority faction of the party does believe in reinstating a flat tax to pay for a rudimentary welfare system the majority consensus in the state remains that freer markets lead to freer people.

    Opposition:
    Libertarians - A socially liberal, economically right wing party, they remain along with Labor form the secular opposition to the People's Party domination over Deseret. With both parties drawing significant support from atheists neither of the parties contests seats in the Senate and instead focus all their efforts on the House.
    Labor - The main left wing in a decidedly right wing state, they remain in the shadow of the Libertarian in their criticism of the People's Party. However with rising immigration shifting the state's demographics the party's leaders continue to hold out for the day when they can overtake the Libertarians.
    Constitution- The party of the Protestant Religious Right, even they are wary of the People's Party grip over Deseret and secretly long for the day when Mormons become a minority. In the meantime, however, they continue to push for the repeal of the "heretic" tax on Protestant Churches.
    The Mormons '30 - A farther right offshoot of the Mormon Church, they hold only the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith's direct teachings to be law and clamor for the legalization of polygamy. Though leadership struggles have split the religious organization of these fundamentalist Mormons into dozens of different sects they remain politically united under The Mormons '30 banner.
    Communards of Christ - The political arm of the United Order of Kanab, they are Christian Communists who believe in Mormon utopian communes. Concentrated mainly in Southern Utah, these individual communes usually have around a few hundred members, however the largest and oldest commune in Kanab has a population of over 8000. The UOK is also unique among Mormon sects for their tolerance of non-whites, even making ex-Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver a member of the Order's Quorum. Also unlike the Amish, the members of the UOK do not renounce modern technology however in the realm of public opinion they are still viewed a just another Mormon sect for their harsh views against premarital sex, drugs, and video games.
    Atheists and Agnostics United - The only political party in America based explicitly on a lack of faith in God, their ranks are filled mostly with ex-Mormons who became opposed to the totalitarian rule of the LDS Church. Politically diverse on economics, they are held together by their common hatred of organized religion and continue the hopeless struggle for modernizing Deseret's archaic social laws.
    Catholic Center - The party for Catholics in the Deseret Senate their vote share has been increasing as more Hispanics move into the state, bringing with it an increase in their sympathy towards Labor.
    Moderates - The Moderate party was formed for moderate protestants who were taken aback by the far right nature of the Constitutionists, and while some of them do vote for Labor in the House most are pro-business Libertarians.
    Interfaith Alliance - This left wing party represents the interests of voters who believe in either non Christian religions or non religious spirituality. And with most of these non-Christians being immigrant workers their voters are solidly Labor in the House.

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    Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
     
  13. Gentleman Biaggi Leader of the bisexual agenda

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    Dang
    I was just gonna do Utah!
    Great as always
     
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    Communist-Theocratic Mormon party.

    That's a new one.
     
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    The creation of a system of joined-up devolved government across the UK has been lauded as one of the most all-pervading reforms of the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition, although it has been the subject of much criticism. The core fault of the system, in the eyes of many, is that in an attempt to gain the support of the sort of right-wingers who hate the Biased Left-wing BBC, they ultimately decided to devolve power to Assemblies, elected by STV, based on the ITV television regions.

    This meant, for instance, that most of Nottinghamshire was put into the Yorkshire Assembly, while Nottingham itself was pulled into the ambit of Birmingham as part of the Central Assembly. Dorset was split in three by the West Country, West and Meridian Assemblies. London sprawled out towards Crawley, Luton, Bracknell and Rochford, to the great delight of certain British Republicans.

    Perhaps the most divisive of the new regions was that of the Borders, which took most of the South Scotland region from the old Scottish Parliament, and added almost all of Cumbria, apart from Barrow-in-Furness which became an exclave of the Granada Assembly. Scottish nationalists protested at this outrageous attempt at gerrymandering, and won nine of the 40 seats in the first regional elections of 2013. This was one of the factors which allowed the Labour Party to lead a Labour-SNP-Lib Dem coalition in the Borders for the first term of the region, but this Government has been plagued with internal divisions over the Scottish Question and, to a lesser extent, the Barrow Question. Jim Harmezian has even started a new political party fighting for Cumbrian unity and has won a seat in the Granada Assembly with this aim.

    So when the regional elections came round again in 2017, this time combined with the snap general election called by Theresa May, the general national wing to Labour was not reflected in the Borders. Labour failed to top the poll in Copeland, which had been lost to the Tories on the Westminster level in a by-election some months previously. The Liberal Democrats also lost seats and only barely topped the poll in Tim Farron's seat. Meanwhile, the Tories (formerly the sole opposition on the Assembly) knocked the SNP back on their heels in the Scottish constituencies, mostly benefiting from Unionist transfers three years after the Scottish independence referendum. All of this has resulted in John Lamont's Conservatives winning a majority, 21 seats out of 40, with Lamont being invested as Mayor of the Borders shortly after the election.

    Four years after the creation of such a controversial scheme of devolution, the party that instituted it has won a majority in the most controversial of the regions. Perhaps people do just get used to the systems imposed on them by Governments.

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  16. asanh Featuring RFK from the Devil May Cry Series

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    The U's M watermark is what solidifies this.
     
  17. Alex Richards A mapper I, from near Dar-bai. Donor

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    That's incredibly aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
     
  18. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

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    Damn, people really didnt like Kerry did they
     
  19. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

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    2016 Clintonverse

    While Hillary Clinton did not lead a bad second term, her faults began to appear. With significant allegations of corruption, her mishandling of the 2014 Iranian Crisis, and her general air of untrustowrthyness, the Democrats were not hopeful for 2016.

    Nonetheless, they nominated Senator Joseph Biden and Governor Terry Mcaullife to head their ticket

    Against the moderate, establishment ticket of Romney/Rubio, they never stood chance

    Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio: 52.54%
    Joseph Biden/Terrence Mcaullife: 47.40%
     
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    @killertahu22

    Nice touch with Clinton having an "Iranian Crisis" instead of Vlad annexing Crimea – good way to show how US foreign policy would have been different under a Clinton administration without having to go into too much detail.

    Also, your map shows Romney/Rubio taking DC.
     
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